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#181 Kjudoon

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 01:00 AM

First off... LRMS dont do splash. Havent for 8 months and they still require more skill to use well than durkadurka ac spam and lazorblerch builds. So why shouldnt they rate in there. Bad lurm pilots like bad brawltards will still get lumped into the underhive.

Secondly we dont know how the scores are weighted or applied. Lets find out if we start seeing more 12 to 10 matches before we fire up a new set of torches and sharpen more pitchforks. I have to juggle how many i have burning and am hoping this extinguishes a few. Be nice to play in the group queue again if it suddenly is no longer all seal clubbing all the time.

#182 Lily from animove

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 01:00 AM

View PostIraqiWalker, on 18 August 2015 - 12:51 AM, said:

They did redistribute the scores.

Check the patch notes.



the bit i saw there for redistribution probably does not really change it. We will see, but I doubt the changes have been that signifiant.

#183 IraqiWalker

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 01:26 AM

View PostLily from animove, on 18 August 2015 - 01:00 AM, said:



the bit i saw there for redistribution probably does not really change it. We will see, but I doubt the changes have been that signifiant.

So it seems we're gonna have to test out the system for a few months, right? See what happens?

Also, nothing in this game is static, so if things are wrong, they can change them.

#184 Yokaiko

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 01:27 AM

View PostIraqiWalker, on 18 August 2015 - 01:26 AM, said:

So it seems we're gonna have to test out the system for a few months, right? See what happens?

Also, nothing in this game is static, so if things are wrong, they can change them.



Yeah, can and will are two different things.

#185 Karamarka

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 01:28 AM

View PostFupDup, on 17 August 2015 - 02:38 PM, said:

In general, I wonder if this will finally end the "Carry Harder" expectation that the game sometimes has, also known as the "I'm having fun" effect.

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Edited by Karamarka, 18 August 2015 - 01:29 AM.


#186 IraqiWalker

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 01:29 AM

View PostYokaiko, on 18 August 2015 - 01:27 AM, said:



Yeah, can and will are two different things.

What evidence do we have that they won't?

#187 Yokaiko

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 01:29 AM

View PostIraqiWalker, on 18 August 2015 - 01:29 AM, said:

What evidence do we have that they won't?



Three years of history, look how long that trash elo system lived.

#188 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 01:38 AM

View PostDeathlike, on 17 August 2015 - 02:21 PM, said:

You may be disappointed... some of you may be getting what you are wishing for.

Well since the metric is anything that raises C-Bills and Match score... I MIGHT get bumped up in rating. I get a lot of assists and formation bonuses! B)

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 18 August 2015 - 01:44 AM.


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Posted 18 August 2015 - 01:41 AM

View PostKaramarka, on 18 August 2015 - 01:28 AM, said:

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Bro hugs man.

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Edited by Kyocera, 18 August 2015 - 01:47 AM.


#190 Lily from animove

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 01:43 AM

Also, when 2 detahballs stay at the end of the map for 12 minutes they also grab scores by protected light stuff? So I guess the next step for PGIwill definately be resettling the rewards. The issue I just see is, that I cna manupilate the Score to a vry specific degree and So I can very much define where I will be located and still get all the nice wins if I want.


View PostKjudoon, on 18 August 2015 - 01:00 AM, said:

First off... LRMS dont do splash. Havent for 8 months and they still require more skill to use well than durkadurka ac spam and lazorblerch builds. So why shouldnt they rate in there. Bad lurm pilots like bad brawltards will still get lumped into the underhive.

Secondly we dont know how the scores are weighted or applied. Lets find out if we start seeing more 12 to 10 matches before we fire up a new set of torches and sharpen more pitchforks. I have to juggle how many i have burning and am hoping this extinguishes a few. Be nice to play in the group queue again if it suddenly is no longer all seal clubbing all the time.


they slpash as in non pinpoint.

#191 Kjudoon

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 01:58 AM

Yes which decreases damage and effectiveness. Hardly something to complain about but fix instead. Then youd have something to complain about with legitimacy just like those complaining about lazorblerch and durkadurka acspam.

#192 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 02:02 AM

View PostKyocera, on 18 August 2015 - 01:41 AM, said:

Bro hugs man.

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4 kills 1 assist and 1100 damage... I'd have had fun in that match too!

#193 Speedy Plysitkos

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 02:02 AM

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#194 IraqiWalker

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 02:04 AM

View PostYokaiko, on 18 August 2015 - 01:29 AM, said:



Three years of history, look how long that trash elo system lived.


Yes, but that's evidence countering your claim. There have been hundreds of balance changes, and shifts. Or are you going to say the game is the same as it was in closed beta?

8v8 going to 12v12 is a change. Gauss getting charge is another, Ghost Heat ... etc. So their record shows change. Maybe not super fast, but still change.

#195 TWIAFU

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 03:25 AM

View PostFupDup, on 17 August 2015 - 02:31 PM, said:

Wouldn't a support-ish build usually have a lower match score than a straight-up killing build, thus causing the support build to face weaker enemies? That seems more like a boon than a bane. :P


No, supports rake in the Match Scores. Hell, anyone can get a great match score in any Mech, just stick with your Lance, team, and work together.

Not to mention extra modifiers applied for special support options.

The better you are at working with your team the better your match score will be, the higher tiers you will attain.

If you are a solo player, not working with your team, your match score will be really low. Now, win or loose, best case with a low match score you stay even, worse you drop.

What this means is that the anti-social, anti-group, anti-team, solo rambo will all be stuck together in the lowest tiers leaving the rest of us alone. They made their own hell, now that will be stuck in it.

This is a win/win with a new Forest Colony map on top!

#196 TWIAFU

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 03:34 AM

View PostKaramarka, on 18 August 2015 - 01:28 AM, said:

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On the bright side, look at the Match Scores on your team; FOUR of 10 or lower!

New system they would all fall in the tier system due to how badly the did, hopefully you would never see them again as you would have rose. You will get better games and those that fell will be playing with others of the same skill instead of getting carried.

Just imagine 12 people all on the same team and none of them able to breach 10 match score.

Good players will be playing good or better. Bad players will be playing bad or worse. ONLY way to play better people is to be a better player.

It's great.

#197 Duke Nedo

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 03:35 AM

View PostKyocera, on 18 August 2015 - 01:41 AM, said:

Bro hugs man.

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Can't resist... ^^ final chance before PSR ruins any attempt of epeening... ;)

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 03:53 AM

View PostNaduk, on 17 August 2015 - 02:10 PM, said:

ding dong the witch is dead
new pilot rating system is here as of tomorrow

best part is its retroactive from January 2015 stats
so there will likely still be chaos , but the nice smooth type of chaos


Taking bets on when the Pilot Tier Hate starts rolling in.

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 03:57 AM

View PostRaggedyman, on 18 August 2015 - 03:53 AM, said:


Taking bets on when the Pilot Tier Hate starts rolling in.



Shortly after the T4 and T5 realize that they are just that bad?

After T5 complains that they were rolfstomped by T4 or another T5 team?

T4's are pug stomping T5s?


Investing in popcorn after the markets open.

;)

Edited by TWIAFU, 18 August 2015 - 04:00 AM.


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Posted 18 August 2015 - 04:17 AM

View PostIraqiWalker, on 18 August 2015 - 02:04 AM, said:



8v8 going to 12v12 is a change. Gauss getting charge is another, Ghost Heat ... etc. So their record shows change. Maybe not super fast, but still change.



Ghost heat is still with us

OH and they were going to adjust jump thrust, AND Paulconomy....etc.





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