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[Alistair Winter]

Update:

I sent a PM to Dennis De Koning, got a reply. He asked that we start a poll to gauge interest, so I did.

You can find the poll HERE!

• PGI is interested in the possibility of selling cosmetic custom geometry upgrades.
  
• Every bit of cosmetic custom geometry (CCG) will come with a single set of texture, such as the chrome-painted skull of the AS7-S(L). In other words, it won't change colour based on how you paint the rest of your mech or what camo patterns you have.
  
• It needs to be relatively simple. To sell a completely redesigned retro-Timber Wolf based on old artwork is too much work. We're talking about simple upgrades, like replacing a head, a shoulderpad, an armour plate or a hand.
  
• PGI needs to know what kind of upgrades we're interested in, and what mechs they should handle first.

I tried to make this poll to the best of my abilities. It may be flawed, but try not to hate me for it. The important thing is that everyone who's interested shows their interest and we get this show on the road.

Note: At the risk of making the poll biased, please keep in mind that selling this stuff for MC is probably the only way PGI can justify spending lots of time on it. If nobody's willing to spend MC, it seems unlikely that it will happen.

PGI has made no promises, but at least it's being talked about now. So let's make it happen!


Here's the original OP.

Spoiler

https://www.youtube....9&v=-Ii4NjRKm60

Skip to 22:00

Dennis DeKoning says custom geometry is totally doable, but the feedback from the loyalty mechs was cooler than he expected, so he didn't go forward with it.

Dennis, if you're reading this: We desperately want custom geometry for our mechs.

For those of you who can't see the video right now:

• It would be "totally doable" to have 10 different heads for the Atlas, in theory.
  
• It's mostly a matter of special details, like cockpits, shields, claws, spikes or other small components.
  
• You would not get a custom geometry arm or leg, because that would totally mess up the camo patterns, texture and weapon hardpoints, and the file sizes would go through the roof.

Here's what I need:


Anyone who would be willing to buy custom geometry for their mechs, post in this thread and make it public! Show Dennis that we want it! And tell him / us what kind of stuff you'd be willing to pay for. I need this thread to be 100 pages long by tomorrow, so get to work.

Some ideas for custom geometry:

• Custom cockpits for every mech. Seriously. Every mech with a head, like the Atlas, Centurion, Firestarter, Commando, Gargoyle, Executioner or Mist Lynx, give it a custom geometry cockpit.
  
  
  And for God's sake, an Atlas custom geometry cockpit with GLOWING EYES!
  And imagine how many people would buy a Battlemaster domed cockpit.
  
• Take inspiration from modern tanks. Aerial antennae, attached field repair kits, chains, search lights, duffel bags, etc. I guess actual camo nets would be too much, but could you imagine how cool mechs would look with camo nets?
  
• Wings for the Zeus?
  
• Different arm / shoulder shields for the Black Knight, Centurion, Executioner, Griffin, etc.
  
• I know I said no weapon changes, but... maybe an exception for the Mad Dog lasers? Nostalgia level over 9000. If the Mauler and Orion have laser barrels, y no Mad Dog?

Anyway, like I said. Please reply and state your desire. We need to make this happen!

Edited by Alistair Winter, 27 August 2015 - 12:01 AM.

[Sarlic]

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Hello MechWarriors,

In Dev Vlog #14, we will be discussing the new Forest Colony with PGI's Art Director, Dennis De Koning!

We made this thread here for the community to ask any questions they would like for Dennis to answer, then we'll pick out a few and have him answer/discuss them in the next Dev Vlog!

(Unfortunately you only have 2 days to ask questions as we will be recording it this Friday afternoon)

Note: Your questions can be anything art related!

http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__4608288

Edit: comfirmed.. Triple yes here!

Edited by Sarlic, 20 August 2015 - 03:57 AM.

[Juodas Varnas]

Battlemaster says yes!

I want everything! Atlas heads, Centurion mohawks and shields, Catapult noses!

CUSTOMIZE EVERYTHING!

[Alistair Winter]

[anonymous161]

I say why not? Why not give players more choices for their mechs and no I dont want to have to pay for them we have all paid enough money for stuff like patterns if you want steam users to really notice this game do something cool with the franchise give us different model variations different looking legs ect.

[Kiiyor]

@DENNIS.

DENNIS PLS.

[Lily from animove]

god, yes, imagine the money we cna throw at them.

Also they could add some as unlocks for mech XP so people grinding tons of XP on a specific mech having a long time goal to keep them motivated using it.

yep, make it happen.

But a question still is:

is it really not possible to make camso apply to them?

generally instead of havign Atlas Apple jakc camo in a big file the game could now have:

Atlas Applejack arm 1
Atlas Applejack arm 2
Atlas Applejack arm 3

Atlas Applejack leg 1
Atlas Applejack leg 2
Atlas Applejack leg 3

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.
.

this way every section keeps it own skin which reduces filesizes. it just woudl require moe information to initially distribute at a matchstat to the players. But the additional diskspace required would be quite reasonable.

Edited by Lily from animove, 20 August 2015 - 03:12 AM.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

this will generate TONS of $. there is only one problem. it will not be introduced faster ten 2018-2025. They dont have recources for this.

[Lily from animove]

Titannium, on 20 August 2015 - 03:16 AM, said:

this will generate TONS of $. there is only one problem. it will not be introduced faster ten 2018-2025. They dont have recources for this.

They do, because we are very close to havingfinshed most 3050's mechs that are common and popular. So the art and design team does have soon not much to do, except when PGI would plan a "jump" in the timeline. in a non pw2 game, the customisation will be the main money maker, Which is driven by the art and design team. The basic coding and map makers are not main money makers (unless they create corefeatures as dlc's), they are cost centers, they produce what makes the people stick with the game by adding new gameplay. And people that stick around will mostly start to buy stuff. So its an importantcost center since this is money invensted to keep people interested in the game. IGP has figured this out thats why they were against making new maps. (can't monetarise maps).

[Alistair Winter]

Darth Bane001, on 20 August 2015 - 03:04 AM, said:

I say why not? Why not give players more choices for their mechs and no I dont want to have to pay for them we have all paid enough money for stuff like patterns if you want steam users to really notice this game do something cool with the franchise give us different model variations different looking legs ect.

To be honest, even though I've spent hundreds of dollars on this game... I'd still pay an absurd amount of money to have a pointy beak on my CPLT-K2.

[Tennex]

yes custom geometry is something i think the entire community is behind

Claws for the YLW? Yes please

Edited by Tennex, 20 August 2015 - 07:41 AM.

[TercieI]

I want a Firestarter head that doesn't look like a koala.

Scratch that, I want a Firestarter head that's furry and looks entirely like a koala.

[Sarlic]

I assume my question got through?

[MeiSooHaityu]

Alistair Winter, on 20 August 2015 - 03:40 AM, said:

To be honest, even though I've spent hundreds of dollars on this game... I'd still pay an absurd amount of money to have a pointy beak on my CPLT-K2.

Nooo! That is a Founder's geometry item, it should be unique to the Catapult C1(F).

OK, maybe you have access to it if for all Catapults IF...IF...you are a Founder. Other than that, you can have other unique geometry, just not a Cat "beak" .

I'd support purchasable geometry. I'm not sure I'd buy it TBH, but I support the idea and I can see it being popular.

Again though, NO special geometry items available for general purchase. Sorry, but special unique geometry stays unique.

[Alistair Winter]

MeiSooHaityu, on 20 August 2015 - 03:59 AM, said:

Nooo! That is a Founder's geometry item, it should be unique to the Catapult C1(F).
OK, maybe you have access to it if for all Catapults IF...IF...you are a Founder. Other than that, you can have other unique geometry, just not a Cat "beak" .

We already had this discussion when PGI offered to sell Phoenix mechs again. We don't have to go there again.

Although I'm starting to wonder how well a "special snowflake" hanging item would sell

Edited by Alistair Winter, 20 August 2015 - 04:04 AM.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Alistair Winter, on 20 August 2015 - 04:02 AM, said:

We already had this discussion when PGI offered to sell Phoenix mechs again. We don't have to go there again.

Well, that was to resell the pack, not about selling custom bits of geometry off bit by bit that was promised to be unique to a pack.

Even then, people voted that down with a vengence. So that is why the beak is off the table.

I'll admit, I didn't feel THAT strongly about the Phoenix pack (or even packs since then), but the Founder's just feels a bit more special. It's a Founders thing .

How's this, no "beak", but you can get some sweet push bars .

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 20 August 2015 - 04:18 AM.

[Thunder Child]

Dooo Eeeet! We gives you all the monies. Also, MW2 Sound Pack, Plz.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Thunder Child, on 20 August 2015 - 04:19 AM, said:

Dooo Eeeet! We gives you all the monies. Also, MW2 Sound Pack, Plz.

That would be cool. I saw the video where someone edited the sound file to add it (not s good idea, violates ToS), but an official released pack would be nice .

[A big brave boulder of meat]

I would totally buy custom mech geometry. In a heartbeat.

[CDLord HHGD]