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#21 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 06:41 AM

View PostAppogee, on 26 August 2015 - 04:38 AM, said:

I grow bored of effortlessly achieving 4 kills every match in my Arctic Cheeseplatter, as lesser Mechwarrior flail around trying unsuccessfully to scratch my torso armor.

I for one welcome the break in the monotony that the Jenner IIC may provide.


Its weird cause I always get one shot in mine. Damn my good ping

#22 Mcgral18

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 09:29 AM

IIC's are not supposed to get quirks.

Hotter and more fragile.

That makes it worse than the ACH. It can't use SPLs as effectively, SRMs are rather rubbish, and 6SRManything runs blazingly hot and a 12M CoF.

The 6E variant will be the best, but outdone by the current ACH (likely nerfed by then.)

Edited by Mcgral18, 26 August 2015 - 09:29 AM.


#23 Scout Derek

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 09:30 AM

View PostMcgral18, on 26 August 2015 - 09:29 AM, said:

IIC's are not supposed to get quirks.

Hotter and more fragile.

That makes it worse than the ACH. It can't use SPLs as effectively, SRMs are rather rubbish, and 6SRManything runs blazingly hot and a 12M CoF.

The 6E variant will be the best, but outdone by the current ACH (likely nerfed by then.)

Chainfire man, chainfire!!! :P

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 09:33 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 26 August 2015 - 04:35 AM, said:

All hail CStreak 4/6 boating speedy Light. Perhaps only then will the dreaded Arctic Cheetos dwindle in Puglandia. Wishful thinking, probably. :P

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Two many ECM bubbles......GG

#25 FupDup

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 09:33 AM

People are going to complain just as much about the Jenny IIC as the Arctic Cheeto, I'm calling it now. I'm 100% sure about this.

I'm also 70% expecting people to decry that the Wolfhound has "broken hitboxes."

#26 bad arcade kitty

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 09:34 AM

jenny iic doesn't really have podspace to boat a lot of streaks and a decent engine together though

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 09:39 AM

View Postbad arcade kitty, on 26 August 2015 - 09:34 AM, said:

jenny iic doesn't really have podspace to boat a lot of streaks and a decent engine together though

Well, if you drop down the engine to a 280, you can get 12 tons of pod space (assuming you take 2 JJs). That could be something like CAP + 6 SSRM2 + 5 tons of ammo. Maybe upgrade an SSRM2 to SSRM4 but you get 1 less ton of ammo. Same speed as ACH.

Or, downgrade the engine a little bit further...

Edited by FupDup, 26 August 2015 - 09:39 AM.


#28 bad arcade kitty

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 09:43 AM

who's scared of c-ssrm-2 though

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 09:43 AM

View PostFupDup, on 26 August 2015 - 09:33 AM, said:

People are going to complain just as much about the Jenny IIC as the Arctic Cheeto, I'm calling it now. I'm 100% sure about this.

I'm also 70% expecting people to decry that the Wolfhound has "broken hitboxes."



Its a humanoid mech with a slim CT i agree with ya 100%....the qq and tears will be amazing.

#30 FupDup

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 09:44 AM

View Postbad arcade kitty, on 26 August 2015 - 09:43 AM, said:

who's scared of c-ssrm-2 though

Lights, because the missiles rarely miss but a light mech's strength is trying to make enemy shots miss...

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 09:45 AM

View Postbad arcade kitty, on 26 August 2015 - 09:43 AM, said:

who's scared of c-ssrm-2 though

Not much, think they're more afraid of c-srm-2 as it is .5 tons for one.

6 slots, 6 srm-2s = 3 tons.

The Jenner can have about 7-8...

that means 400-500 rounds with 6 srm2s...

Going about 170 KPH...

scary.

#32 bad arcade kitty

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 09:46 AM

6 c-ssrm-2 it's 12 points of damage spread though the all mech... it will need a loooooooong shooting to take a light down with that

View PostScout Derek, on 26 August 2015 - 09:45 AM, said:

Not much, think they're more afraid of c-srm-2 as it is .5 tons for one.

6 slots, 6 srm-2s = 3 tons.

The Jenner can have about 7-8...

that means 400-500 rounds with 6 srm2s...

Going about 170 KPH...

scary.


jenner can have 6 c-srm-6 and go 140 kmh (or more realistically 6 c-srm-4 and more ammo/a better engine), but lights don't care much of srm...

Edited by bad arcade kitty, 26 August 2015 - 09:47 AM.


#33 El Bandito

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 09:51 AM

View Postbad arcade kitty, on 26 August 2015 - 09:46 AM, said:

6 c-ssrm-2 it's 12 points of damage spread though the all mech... it will need a loooooooong shooting to take a light down with that


6 x CSSRM2s is 24 points of damage.

If the Jenner chain-fires those missiles, the Cheater can't even fight back effectively. Only to run away.

Edited by El Bandito, 26 August 2015 - 09:54 AM.


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Posted 26 August 2015 - 09:54 AM

Smurfing an Oxide with a 300XL, Ferro, Endo, and max armor gives me 10.85 tons to work with. I'll strip some head armor to give me the 11.

If for whatever reason I want to run a 315XL, that's 18 tons on engine, leaving me with roughly 8 tons if maxed armor.

Let's assume I put two JJs on it. That would be 10 tons for the missile variant.

An C-ASRM6 x 6 loadout is 15 tons just for the launchers. The streaks would be 18 tons.

Bump that down to CSRM4 x 6, that's 6 tons for launchers, and 4 tons for ammo. 48 missile alpha less than twenty times, roughly.

Looking back, this is much less scary than I originally envisioned. It's better than an IS Jenner basically in every way, yes, but it doesn't scream power creep as much as it says it bluntly. In your face. With a swarm of blue rockets.

Edit Derp math.

Edited by GreyNovember, 26 August 2015 - 09:55 AM.


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Posted 26 August 2015 - 09:55 AM

View PostAppogee, on 26 August 2015 - 04:38 AM, said:

I grow bored of effortlessly achieving 4 kills every match in my Arctic Cheeseplatter, as lesser Mechwarrior flail around trying unsuccessfully to scratch my torso armor.

I for one welcome the break in the monotony that the Jenner IIC may provide.

My HBK-4G says Arctic Cheetos taste like chicken. Cheesy Chicken. NomNomNom.

#36 FupDup

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 09:57 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 26 August 2015 - 09:55 AM, said:

My HBK-4G says Arctic Cheetos taste like chicken. Cheesy Chicken. NomNomNom.

Arctic Chicken?

#37 Andi Nagasia

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 09:57 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 26 August 2015 - 09:55 AM, said:

My HBK-4G says Arctic Cheetos taste like chicken. Cheesy Chicken. NomNomNom.

Provolone goes well with Chicken, sadly the Jenner IIC will have Small Legs, but the Breast meat will be Tasty, :)

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 09:59 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 26 August 2015 - 09:51 AM, said:


6 x CSSRM2s is 24 points of damage.

If the Jenner chain-fires those missiles, the Cheater can't even fight back effectively. Only to run away.


yeah, sorry 24

24 spread damage vs 30-36 pinpoint damage... guess who win

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 10:00 AM

View PostFupDup, on 26 August 2015 - 09:57 AM, said:

Arctic Chicken?

I put em on ice frequently enough. Maybe people need to lose the Lazor-Crutch, and get back to some serious PP-FLD love.... AC20s, AC10s, Gauss and PPCs seem to punch em in the gut just fine.

#40 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 10:01 AM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 26 August 2015 - 05:56 AM, said:

The Jenner is just light mech kryptonite on legs.


except ECM and better yet when the ecm bubble is 90m and then everyone will bring it lol





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