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#21 Kodyn

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 12:14 PM

Have noticed a slight reduction, had to tweak playstyle a bit to compensate.

The result? Boredom. When I make more CBills, I buy more mechs, I have more reason to play more often, and I tend to spend more money to keep up the grind with Premium, etc.

When I notice myself making less CBills or having to work harder for the same amount, I find myself wanting to spend less time playing MWO, and have little to no desire to spend money.

There's several mechs I'm currently saving for and look forward to piloting, but I know the grind's going to be so long and tedious, I don't find myself rushing to complete it. Since I don't plan to be on as long each day as I used to, I have less incentive to leave premium time running, since it will be getting wasted, therefore that's money I won't be spending.

So I guess less CBills is a good thing for me, keeps money in my pockets...but I can't see how that helps PGI any.

#22 TheStrider

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 12:37 PM

I have only been playing lights and Shadowcat since the update, and have found the payout at least as good as prior. I've been varying from 125k on a semi-decent game loss to over 250k on reasonably performing game wins.

I haven't had any blowout performances, so everything seems normal here.

Edited by TheStrider, 26 August 2015 - 12:38 PM.


#23 Nightmare1

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 02:04 PM

View PostAkulla1980, on 26 August 2015 - 07:23 AM, said:

Anyone else noticed a drop in earnings since last patch, especially with the new rescoring.

Seems like im earning with premium time what id get if it was not running.

Feels like a 30% reduction on average.

And before you go git better etc, My performance levels been about what they were pre PSR and Tier introduction.


I noticed a bit of a hit initially, but then I remembered to activate my banked Premium Time and use my Hero Mechs.

Nope...still the same as before now...

#24 Hellcat420

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 02:42 PM

I haven't noticed earnings reduction but I don't pay attention much to cbill earnings either tho, I'm not a mech collector so I been sitting on a nice pile of space money for a year or two. It is possible they sneaked one in if ripoff(premium) time sales have dropped, it wouldn't be the first or even the 5th time they have nerfed earnings.

#25 Taffer

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 07:49 PM

I thought I was just imagining it, but seriously? this is all I get? Granted my team lost but....I thought I did okay.

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I also seem to be having a harder time getting anywhere near 200k anymore.


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Edited by Taffer, 26 August 2015 - 07:58 PM.


#26 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 08:26 PM

View PostNightmare1, on 26 August 2015 - 02:04 PM, said:


I noticed a bit of a hit initially, but then I remembered to activate my banked Premium Time and use my Hero Mechs.

Nope...still the same as before now...


dont forget step 3 as in "be good"

j/k

That last one is odd, Ive done less and gotten more

Edited by Mechwarrior Buddah, 26 August 2015 - 08:27 PM.


#27 Wyndstar

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 10:06 PM

Well, there is a formula right? Compare the rewards you got to what the formula says. Did Kill Most Damage Dealt, Assist, Kill, Damage.... etc, did any of them change? Can someone check? And if so, by how much?

#28 Kiriesani

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 10:18 PM

I'm pretty sure my earnings have actually gone up.

#29 Eboli

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 12:45 AM

I am glad this has been raised as I thought I was being paranoid about lower earnings since last patch. I find that generally I am down around 10%.

#30 Brollocks

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 01:36 AM

I've been playing less than a month and the earning rate was already a serious grind and quite off-putting, but since I found a mech I could learn in without being frustrated, it was do-able since just playing the game is enjoyable. But now it's even harder to grind credits? Do you want new players like me to stick around and become invested in the game?

#31 Deathlike

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 02:16 AM

The Economic Derpression Depression of 3050 is still ongoing and real!

Thanks Paulconomist!

#32 MechWarrior3671771

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 02:23 AM

Looks like something was added to normalize the upper payout.

I'm still on premium time and average 100K-250k per win, depending on damage that rarely tops 400.

So that little for a 1000+ damage match makes me think they capped something.

If I did 1000+ damage and only pulled 230k I would probably cry.

Edited by Fenrisulvyn, 27 August 2015 - 02:25 AM.


#33 Corrado

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 02:29 AM

View PostAkulla1980, on 26 August 2015 - 07:23 AM, said:

Anyone else noticed a drop in earnings since last patch, especially with the new rescoring.

Seems like im earning with premium time what id get if it was not running.

Feels like a 30% reduction on average.

And before you go git better etc, My performance levels been about what they were pre PSR and Tier introduction.


i didnt noticed. i do usually run hero/invasion/legend mechs + premium time. 100k on a really bad loss, 250-300 on the average won, 450-500k very few hard carry matches.

Edited by Corrado, 27 August 2015 - 02:30 AM.


#34 Black Ivan

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 02:33 AM

Yes, the C-Bills payout is reduced but a larger margin. Looks like PGI needs to increase MC and Mech sales for Christmas payments and presents.

#35 MechWarrior3671771

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 03:06 AM

Guess its time to strip consumables from all my builds. I know a scout needs UAVs and strikes, but at 80K per match its just killing my earnings. Sometimes I even go negative.

So instead of reeling me in, PGI is motivating me to learn to do without consumables.

Doesn't smell like a smart business model from here.

#36 OzViper

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 04:10 AM

I only just noticed the change.. Extremely poor C-Bill and even bad XP earnings for a loss.

Was just in a game.. 500 pts of damage, 300+ score (no kills) and it was a loss and I only got 26K Cbills and just 90 XP... crazy..

#37 Siegegun

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 04:34 AM

I have not noticed a difference. Considering they changed how you and others are selected for a match perhaps some are not earning what they did because they are facing opponents that are "better" than before, thus reducing what they normally would make. I.E, if someone was facing a lot less stiff opposition before the PSR change, they would make more cbills off less skilled enemies, now with the PSR change, the same people are fighting a lot better pilots, thus making it harder to earn more.

#38 Zordicron

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 04:42 AM

I haven't paid attention to cbill earnings in a while, as it is usually an exercise in depressing myself.

However-

Maybe I am looking at it wrong, maybe I recall wrong: didn't it used to be, if you ran a hero mech:
Match cbill earnings in the column
Hero bonus
PT % bonus applied to the match AND hero bonus added together

Because now the PT is calculated off the "subtotal" before adding any bonus in like hero mech.


I mean i don;t know, maybe it was always that way, but I swear at some point in the past the PT was added to the whole shebang and not just the match stuff. Maybe this got changed like 2 years ago and I just noticed it with the new multicolor end of match screen or something.

Anyway, IMO the high end wasnt so bad, it was always the low end that bothered me, I generally do well, but when I see people posting like 50K cbill matches it is sorta like WTF to me. Ties in to the new player XP IMO, if they get stomped it's one thing, if they get stomped and can't earn anything to at least experiment in the mechlab or try to find something that fits them better.......

#39 Troutmonkey

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 05:06 AM

I've sent an e-mail to support asking to confirm or deny any changes to income. I expect a reply within 6 weeks

#40 Troutmonkey

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 05:27 AM

6 Kills, 800+ Damage, 200k Cbills

Feels pretty low, but then again so has everything since rewards 2.0

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