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[Spleenslitta]

I did a search for but couldn't find it. I see this **/** that represents running and walking speeds on the table top.

Does anyone have chart or something that shows how fast 10/15 is for example if you put it into a game like MW 3 or 4?

Edited by Spleenslitta, 06 July 2012 - 11:45 AM.

[Gishank]

Whilst I've never played the tabletop version... Are you comparing real-time speed to turnbased?..

[Spleenslitta]

Gishank, on 06 July 2012 - 11:46 AM, said:

Whilst I've never played the tabletop version... Are you comparing real-time speed to turnbased?..

Yes. It's hard to make the comparison. Right now i try finding a mech with the same weight class and engine on Sarna to make the comparison.

Edited by Spleenslitta, 06 July 2012 - 11:49 AM.

[Corpsecandle]

Never played the table top but I *believe* each hex was thirty meters. At least that's what I've seen thrown around on the forums here.

Edit

And wow, according to the post below I was WAY off.

Edited by Corpsecandle, 06 July 2012 - 11:52 AM.

[CaveMan]

1 MP is roughly equal to 3 meters per second, or 10.8 km/hour.

2 MP = 21.6 km/hr
3 = 32.4
4 = 43.2
5 = 54
6 = 64.8
7 = 75.6
8 = 86.4
9 = 97.2
10 = 108
11 = 118.8
12 = 129.6
13 = 140.4
14 = 151.2
15 = 162
16 = 172.8
17 = 183.6
18 = 194.4
19 = 205.2
20 = 216
21 = 226.8
22 = 237.6
23 = 248.4
24 = 259.2
25 = 270
26 = 280.8
27 = 291.6
28 = 302.4
29 = 313.2
30 = 324

[Spleenslitta]

Thanks Caveman. This was exactly what i was looking for.

[Atlai]

What on earth(sorry Terra) goes 324 kph????

[CaveMan]

Mason West, on 06 July 2012 - 11:53 AM, said:

What on earth(sorry Terra) goes 324 kph????

15 ton, 15/23 'Mech with MASC. I forget what its MP is with a supercharger, but we used to call it the "Bat Out of Hell" and it could destroy an Atlas by charging.

[Atlai]

CaveMan, on 06 July 2012 - 11:54 AM, said:

15 ton, 15/23 'Mech with MASC. I forget what its MP is with a supercharger, but we used to call it the "Bat Out of Hell" and it could destroy an Atlas by charging.

BULLET TRAIN,

thats kinda cool though, i hope to see MASC in game someday.

[WardenWolf]

Mason West, on 06 July 2012 - 11:53 AM, said:

What on earth(sorry Terra) goes 324 kph????

Helicopters? Aerotechs are even faster...

[Solarisjock]

also, fear the high end hover craft or hydro foil in TT. from what i vaguely remeber on a CBT discussion was that hydro foils were the fastest non-aerospace thing that could be made

aerospace fighters really move, aerotech hexes are 500m across i believe

[CaveMan]

Just for reference, I believe this is the fastest 'Mech that's possible using the current rules (while still having armor). 50 MP using supercharger and MASC. 540 kph!

Spoiler

Bat Out Of Hell II

Mass: 15 tons
Tech Base: Mixed
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X
Production Year: 3085
Cost: 12,443,805 C-Bills
Battle Value: 360

Construction Options: Fractional Accounting

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 300 XXL Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 216.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 324.0 km/h (540.0 km/h)
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Heavy Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
None
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment Type Rating Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 26 points 0.750
Internal Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LA, 2 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
Engine: XXL Engine 300 6.327
Walking MP: 20
Running MP: 30 (50)
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: (IS) Single Heat Sink 10 0.000
Gyro: XL 1.500
Cockpit: Small 2.000
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor: Heavy Ferro-Fibrous AV - 55 2.772
Armor Locations: 5 LT, 5 RT, 5 LA, 4 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 5 8
Center Torso (rear) 2
L/R Torso 4 6
L/R Torso (rear) 2
L/R Arm 2 4
L/R Leg 3 6

================================================================================
Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MASC HD - 1 1.000
Supercharger LT - 1 0.633
Free Critical Slots: 8

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 2 Points: 4
30 0 0 0 0 1 0 Structure: 1
Special Abilities: ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

Edited by CaveMan, 06 July 2012 - 12:03 PM.

[Minsc]

Table Top speed work as follows from my reading of these forums and what I have read on Sarna : X/Y/Z

X = cruising (walking) speed
Y = running (Max) speed
Z = Jumping Distance (if Jump Jets are equipped)

Everything in Table Top refers to how many hexes a mech moves per turn. Thus, an Atlas with a 3/5 engine could walk 3 hexes or run 5 hexes per turn.

To convert Table Top speeds into the mech warrior games use the following formula, it is *not* exact, but is good for finding a close approximation :

Engine rating / Mech Tonnage * 10.8 = Walking speed in Km/H

or

Engine rating / Mech Tonnage * 10.8 * 1.5 = Running speed in Km/H

Using a Jenner as an example, we see it has a 245 engine rating and is a 35 ton mech. Thus, 245 / 35 * 16.2 = 113.4 Km/H. Sarna lists it as going 118.8 Km/H.

Again, this is not exact, but close enough that you should have a good idea on how to calculate mech speeds.

Edit: Posted at the same time as a few other and just saw this:

Quote

1 MP is roughly equal to 3 meters per second, or 10.8 km/hour.

2 MP = 21.6 km/hr
3 = 32.4
4 = 43.2
5 = 54
6 = 64.8
7 = 75.6
8 = 86.4
9 = 97.2
10 = 108
11 = 118.8
12 = 129.6
13 = 140.4
14 = 151.2
15 = 162
16 = 172.8
17 = 183.6
18 = 194.4
19 = 205.2
20 = 216
21 = 226.8
22 = 237.6
23 = 248.4
24 = 259.2
25 = 270
26 = 280.8
27 = 291.6
28 = 302.4
29 = 313.2
30 = 324

That would be where these numbers come from

Edited by Minsc, 06 July 2012 - 12:07 PM.

[Spleenslitta]

Since i've had my question answered i guess the thread could be locked now.

[Grugore]

Tech readout says a Jenner travels 118 kph. Being a 5/8/5/ mech I, believe, I think that speed chart is incorrect. The first one, that is.

Edited by Grugore, 06 July 2012 - 12:08 PM.

[Pht]

A TT turn = ten seconds of RL time; a hex = 30 meters.

3/5/3 = 3 hexs walking, 5 hexes running, and 3 hexes jump capability.

That's all you need to be able to convert the stuff.

[CaveMan]

Grugore, on 06 July 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:

Tech readout says a Jenner travels 118 kph. Being a 5/8/5/ mech I, believe, I think that speed chart is incorrect.

Jenner is 7/11/5.

[Grugore]

CaveMan, on 06 July 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:

Jenner is 7/11/5.

So simple a caveman can figure it out. LOL. I need to check my facts before I post.

[Chunkymonkey]

The fastest you can make in this game based on TT is a commando with 15/23 movement and 248.3 KMH top speed.

[Incunabulum]

In case anyone's interested - I dug of Heavy Metal and played around:

The fastest mech I could make was a 10 ton, no armor, XXL engined with MASC and Engine Supercharger - 48 MP (19/29 (38) [48])

The fastest vehicle was a 5 ton VTOL, no armor, XXL engined with Jet boosters - 88 MP - 950.5 kph (590.6 mph)!

Obviosly both of those were L3 designs.