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[XxXAbsolutZeroXxX]

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[Bill Lumbar]

Lol... well isn't that special!

[Tyler Valentine]

Sweet

[bad arcade kitty]

poor chuck norris is getting nerfed

i hope they dont nerf it too much though, removing its structure and heat gen quirks will be enough

[Weaselball]

ITT: ACH pilots will cry as their mech is soon to be pegged down a few levels to be on-par with the previous supermech, the Firestarter.

[KHETTI]

Okay, progress, tis a good thing.

[MechWarrior3671771]

"way ahead of its cbill date, I might add"

Cool. Thank you. I was wrong. Mea culpa blah blah forgive me blah.

[Deathlike]

If it's just removal of the quirks, it's not exactly impressive (because those quirks weren't needed in the first place).

[Screech]

What is the over/under, in seconds, for the first post saying that the changes did nothing?

[Xetelian]

Whats the over/under that nerfing light mechs is a thing?

This certainly wont kill the ACH but it wasn't necessary in my opinion as a whole.

Bring other lights UP don't push upper lights down.

[Elizander]

Never really noticed any difference from the Cheetos and any other light other than a higher alpha. Most people can't aim their lasers long enough to deal the right damage to a moving target anyway.

The CSPL version hurts if you're standing still and they get behind you but then again there's the Huginn.

[Odium]

Good news but let's wait to see what those changes are before we praise or condemn them.

If these are just quirk changes the ACH will still be the best light. Only if they go into negative quirks will it make an impact.

If you make it the exact same as the firestarter in all stats the ACH still has ECM. The ACH should have something negative somewhere else to make up for the ECM. Running a little hotter does not count because as any light you should not stick around to DPS much.

Edited by Odium, 02 September 2015 - 03:11 PM.

[bad arcade kitty]

Odium, on 02 September 2015 - 03:08 PM, said:

If you make it the exact same as the firestarter in all stats the ACH still has ECM. The ACH should have something negative somewhere else to make up for the ECM.

nope

also i didn't know firestarter is considered the standard all other lights should be balanced around
procrustean bed, pshaw

[xMintaka]

Good light pilots will continue to do well in the ACH. Bads will continue to whine about the ACH.

[Otto Cannon]

Only one week of easymode left for anyone who hasn't mastered them yet. I expect to see a lot dropping in the next few days.

[XxXAbsolutZeroXxX]

Odium, on 02 September 2015 - 03:08 PM, said:

If you make it the exact same as the firestarter in all stats the ACH still has ECM. The ACH should have something negative somewhere else to make up for the ECM. Running a little hotter does not count because as any light you should not stick around to DPS much.

1. An arctic cheetah with full armor has 8 tons of empty pod space.
2. ECM weighs 1 ton, that's 1/8th of available tonnage.
3. ECM is thus 12.5% of total available space.
4. That's the ACH ECM malus, 12.5% less available tonnage for weapons / equipment.

On a broader scale.

1. A firestarter with max engine and armor has around 10 tons of available space.
2. 10 tons compared to the ACH's available 7 tons with ECM, that's near to a 50% advantage.
3. The arctic cheetah has ECM, and the firestarter has near to a 50% advantage in available tonnage. That makes them extremely close to being balanced.

Edited by I Zeratul I, 02 September 2015 - 03:40 PM.

[White Bear 84]

Why does this happen just as I start playing it

[MechWarrior3671771]

"If you make it the exact same as the firestarter in all stats the ACH still has ECM."

It also can torso twist to spread damage to side torsos without blowing up the XL.
And can then use that stump torso to apply damage reduction to CT

FS can't do that.

I trust the devs to bring it into better balance, and no I don't expect perfection. My main gripe was whether the ACH was going to get nerfed just before it was available to the rest of us for cbills. So I am happy I was wrong.

[Piney II]

The nerf bat cometh. ....

[Dirkdaring]

Will they nerf that it can take more punishment than a stalker?