277 replies to this topic

[Yellonet]

The winners saying "gg" first is bad sportsmanship, it's especially ugly when it's a stomp.
Honestly pisses me off.

[Lexx]

I see them as looking like this guy,...



I think to some of them, GG doesn't mean "good game", it means "get good".

[FupDup]

Lexx, on 06 September 2015 - 11:15 AM, said:

I think to some of them, GG doesn't mean "good game", it means "get good".

Both of those are wrong, it means Gigantic Gorilla.

[Commander A9]

Charronn, on 06 September 2015 - 06:46 AM, said:

I would say 99% of the people that I've played with/against in MWO are a decent bunch.There's only a couple of players I've come across that acted like arseholes,spouting shite and gloating at the end of a match,and they do in every game I've played with them.They still do
And no even If I'm in a match and we stomp 12-1,it's never a good game.
It's not very classy to rub it in,no need for it.

That sounds about right.

Most people are either quiet or speak very minimally. A couple of guys (myself included) try to devise maneuvers, tactics, or call targets-not alot of people do though...(and on that note, if we're wrong, we catch some serious hell for it, even though no one else bothers speaking up to actually try to lead).

There's the select few that are the jerks who will hurl insults at others, then promptly quit the match.

On that note, if you're the first one killed, that doesn't mean that the particular player is a poor player-usually it means he was the unlucky one who was first one shot...or abandoned by the rest of his team and left to die when he tried to lead his lance on an attack run.

[Burktross]

Yellonet, on 06 September 2015 - 11:13 AM, said:

The winners saying "gg" first is bad sportsmanship, it's especially ugly when it's a stomp.
Honestly pisses me off.

Why does it matter? It's not bad sportsmanship if someone shakes your hand after the game, you're just taking it as so. Petard put it well: It's a handshake. There's no "UHUHUHUHUH NOOOOO I SHOULD BE THE ONE TO SHAKE HANDS FIRST >:^(" As long as people play and try, it's a GG.

[Lostdragon]

In 99.9% of my matches everyone is very respectful and friendly. I think this is for two main reasons, the first being that the average MWO player is older than the average HotS player and the second that you are probably going to see most of those same folks in your next match with some of the opposing players on your team the next round. The community in MWO is actually one of the better, more reasonable that I've been a part of in my gaming years.

[Yellonet]

Burktross, on 06 September 2015 - 11:20 AM, said:

Why does it matter? It's not bad sportsmanship if someone shakes your hand after the game, you're just taking it as so. Petard put it well: It's a handshake. There's no "UHUHUHUHUH NOOOOO I SHOULD BE THE ONE TO SHAKE HANDS FIRST >:^(" As long as people play and try, it's a GG.

Typing two letters anonymously on a keyboard is pretty far from an actual handshake for me.

[Pjwned]

I tend to say "le gg face" when participating in a stomp, and I've sort of wondered if that's more or less annoying than saying "ggclose."

Edited by Pjwned, 06 September 2015 - 11:26 AM.

[Fleeb the Mad]

Seems I differ from the average, but I feel compelled to be either completely honest or completely silent during end game remarks. I reseve 'gg' for when I mean it following a pitched and hard fought match.

'ggclose' is universally provacative, but I find that I'm often insulted by 'gg' as well in 12-0 and 12-1 games. I don't like offering or being offered empty platitudes, which is what 'gg' normally is following a stomp. I respect someone who initiates it on the losing team, because it's an honest gesture of sportsmanship, though I find that is best said as 'wp enemy team'.

So as someone who only says 'gg' when they mean it, I find I'm compelled to bite my tongue whenever someone says it to me following what is an obviously one-sided game.

[FupDup]

Pjwned, on 06 September 2015 - 11:24 AM, said:

I tend to say "le gg face" when participating in a stomp, and I've sort of wondered if it's more or less annoying than saying "ggclose."

Probably less, because it's more unique (not a cliche) and using the word "le" always makes things better.

[Krivvan]

El Bandito, on 06 September 2015 - 06:50 AM, said:

No it is not. It hasn't been sportsman-like to say "GG" after stomping a team, for a long time. Hence I always just type "GJ team" instead, in all chat after stomping the opposition. Getting stomped is never a good game to the other side. Understanding that fact is one of the steps of becoming a respectful player.

GG doesn't really mean good game anymore and it's widely not considered insulting no matter what the result of the game is. Look at starcraft where it's considered essentially just the surrender term and handshake no matter how the game actually went.

[Yellonet]

Fleeb the Mad, on 06 September 2015 - 11:24 AM, said:

Seems I differ from the average, but I feel compelled to be either completely honest or completely silent during end game remarks. I reseve 'gg' for when I mean it following a pitched and hard fought match.

'ggclose' is universally provacative, but I find that I'm often insulted by 'gg' as well in 12-0 and 12-1 games. I don't like offering or being offered empty platitudes, which is what 'gg' normally is following a stomp. I respect someone who initiates it on the losing team, because it's an honest gesture of sportsmanship, though I find that is best said as 'wp enemy team'.

So as someone who only says 'gg' when they mean it, I find I'm compelled to bite my tongue whenever someone says it to me following what is an obviously one-sided game.

I feel just the same, but sometimes I can't be quiet and when I see "gg", win or lose, I just say/type that "12-2 isn't a gg" or something like that.

[Burktross]

Yellonet, on 06 September 2015 - 11:23 AM, said:

Typing two letters anonymously on a keyboard is pretty far from an actual handshake for me.

It's as close as it'll get over the web in a 15 minute game.

[C E Dwyer]

People to realise that team to team chat is an option set to off by default, so to see the other team mocking, you turned it on.

Yes its a Dilemma, do you have it turned off and not see the trolling, but also not see any friendly banter, or do you turn it on and have to deal with it

[Kdogg788]

It's honestly better just to say nothing when you stomp an enemy team. Save the comments for TS.

-k

[Mystere]

Lexx, on 06 September 2015 - 11:15 AM, said:

I see them as looking like this guy,...

Nah! You got pawned by this:

Lexx, on 06 September 2015 - 11:15 AM, said:

I think to some of them, GG doesn't mean "good game", it means "get good".

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

I can't believe this is a topic again.

The Cheeto, Clams/IS OP, and Russ 9/11 whine threads must be slow today.

[Mystere]

Yellonet, on 06 September 2015 - 11:29 AM, said:

I feel just the same, but sometimes I can't be quiet and when I see "gg", win or lose, I just say/type that "12-2 isn't a gg" or something like that.

When get I a "gg" after being stomped, I reply with a "ggwp" or just "wp". But then that's just me.

Edited by Mystere, 06 September 2015 - 12:03 PM.

[KraftySOT]

Wintersdark, on 06 September 2015 - 08:35 AM, said:

I wish I could like this more.

Maybe it's just that I'm old and surly, but the impact that growing up in an on-line world free of consequences has had on children these days is horrific. So many little ******** who feel it's ok to act however they want, free of consequence.

In my day, you'd get punched. But, while that may sound horrible, it didn't happen because people learned to be polite, instead of little douchebags.

Internet anonymity is a horrible thing.




Get off my lawn.

But there ARE consequences. What you see as someone being a jerk, and wanting them to "pay for it", makes you the jackass.

If they arent threatening you, or hurting you, or causing you financial lost. Who cares.

You basically saying you want people who are jerks to get their ass kicked. *blinks* Call me crazy but that is literally the worst example of internet anonymity. We all know full well, if we were all in a bar, and some guy was like "Hey nice shirt loser" you would not kick his ass, or whine to your friends that you should have kicked his ass, or if you do actually take a drunken swing at the guy, end up in handcuffs, because the ACTUAL consequences are already laid out and self evident.

What you people are upset about is that someone can act a way you dont like, and you dont have any control over it, and wish that there was some metaphorical boot that could come down on them to make your life more pleasant and their expense.

Thats exactly the plot of 1984

Youd rather them suffer, than you suffer them.

Grow up. Get a helmet.

[KraftySOT]

Petard, on 06 September 2015 - 08:36 AM, said:

It';s not even about emotional fragillity, it;s about other people extending you the same kind of respect that you extend them.

If you allow certain types of people the freedom to crap on you the way they want to, then you just encourage them to keep on doing it. Dont get me wrong, I'm not overly upset by this kind of behavior, thing is, I'm not just going to accept it without bitching, because i know that nothing will change if I just accept it. Don't accept people crapping on you, or they will just keep on doing it. Fullstop.

I applaud your get on with it mentality, that's what they instil in you in the armed forces, and for good reason, but I'm here to play a bloody game, and hopefully have fun. I can deal with people being better than me, I'm buggered if I'm gonna cop unnecessary and unsportsmanlike attitude while I'm doing it. Each to his own.

I hope to have fun. I can deal. It IS about emotional fragility and a lack of being able to suck it up. People wont extend you respect. Some people have no respect to give. Some people make you earn it. Some people are terrible.

You have no choice but to allow it, until it crosses a line.

Being a jerk is not a crime. Nor should we gang up on people or make them out to be social pariahs. Just because theyre pieces of crap doesnt make them any different under the law. Most laws make sense. Like the ones concerning where your rights end and others begins. If you start minimizing and denigrating people just because theyre jerks, youre really not better than the social justice warriors who do the same thing because someone shot a lion, or made a **** cake, or in biblical times threw rocks at prostitutes, or shaved collaborators heads after world war two.

Just being a douchebag, does not mean someone should face "consequences". Its not our job to impose moral consequences on people being jerks.

When the jerks cross a line, then its our job to impose consequences.

'GG close' is the social equivalent of "Smell you later" after beating someone at Street Fighter in the 90s.

I dont know if youve been on Xbox recently but its generally a constant stream of expletives concerning your sexual orientation. And thats just how they talk to their friends.

Are they jerks? Of course. Most of these people will hopefully grow up. If they dont. So what.

Edited by KraftySOT, 06 September 2015 - 12:15 PM.