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[KraftySOT]

Im just curious, why does anyone care what someone says to you online? Especially when its not specifically directed at you, but is just someone being a douche.

Are you guys really that emotionally fragile that rudeness bothers you enough to resort to physical violence, requests for bans, shaming, or denigrating? Have you been outside recently and interacted with other people?

Who cares? GG is as meaningless as GG close, or simply not saying anything at all. Its just a game.

Even in professional hockey, the stuff they say to each other on a regular basis during play, blows whatever were allowed to say to each other out of the water and both pale in comparison to what youll hear 12 year olds say on Xbox live.

[J0anna]

OP, you do know that you can turn off "all" chat and just leave team chat on. I only bother with "all" chat when there's someone I actually want to talk to...

[Scandinavian Jawbreaker]

Meh, I wouldn't stress about it. gglose became a joke long time ago and as it should be taken as such. If you lose to a stomp and get ggclosed or talked crap you just press disconnect and drop to another match. To me these days it's just random nickname saying random stuff in an online game. We are all dickheads sometimes in game and in real life. It's just a fact to accept no need to try to act like the purest dove picking the garbage can...

[Rampancy]

Petard, on 06 September 2015 - 08:15 AM, said:

Totally agree, however, there is a big difference in meaning between "gg" and "ggclose", especially after a stomp.

The first is an internet handshake to the victor or loser, the second is a sarcastic attempt to slag people off, at least in my opinion.

Absolutely, but there are several people in this thread complaining about a plain "gg" as well. Blows my mind that there are adults who can't handle this.

[MechWarrior3671771]

"there's people out there that have no life, no 'IRL WIns' to lean on, so they need to cling to being the best of one of the weakest comp fields of any online game."

And people who routinely win at anything eventually learn that ungraceful winners are just as bad as sore losers.

Most of them learn to win with class and not be That Guy. Because all it does is broadcast that you have low self-esteem and have to use video gaming as "accomplishment porn" while you linger in your parent's basement...

[ApolloKaras]

I get #triggered when someone says GG after we lose 12-0... o.O

[Wintersdark]

InRev, on 06 September 2015 - 07:44 AM, said:

I think the key is that a simple "gg" is a disposable, off the cuff pleasantry traded after a match, exactly like a handshake. No one really cares or thinks too much about it. Throw in a "close" after the gg, however, and then it becomes a mockery, whose sole purpose is to disparage those who lost and diminish their enjoyment of the game for 0 constructive purpose.

GG after a stomp doesn't bother me. It's an empty, whatever statement with no meaning at all. But few matches in this game are ever actually close, due to the tendency for a match to snowball after the early loss of a mech, especially a heavy or assault. Thus, by adding "close", you're just rubbing peoples' faces in their own failure, which is basically the epitome of nonconstructive douchebaggery.

In my opinion, the appropriate response is punching them in the face, but you can't do that over the intertubes

Seriously though, think of how polite people would be if there were actual, physical consequences for their bad behavior instead of, well, no consequences of any sort at all.

I wish I could like this more.

Maybe it's just that I'm old and surly, but the impact that growing up in an on-line world free of consequences has had on children these days is horrific. So many little ******** who feel it's ok to act however they want, free of consequence.

In my day, you'd get punched. But, while that may sound horrible, it didn't happen because people learned to be polite, instead of little douchebags.

Internet anonymity is a horrible thing.




Get off my lawn.

[Petard]

KraftySOT, on 06 September 2015 - 08:20 AM, said:

Im just curious, why does anyone care what someone says to you online? Especially when its not specifically directed at you, but is just someone being a douche.

Are you guys really that emotionally fragile that rudeness bothers you enough to resort to physical violence, requests for bans, shaming, or denigrating? Have you been outside recently and interacted with other people?

Who cares? GG is as meaningless as GG close, or simply not saying anything at all. Its just a game.

Even in professional hockey, the stuff they say to each other on a regular basis during play, blows whatever were allowed to say to each other out of the water and both pale in comparison to what youll hear 12 year olds say on Xbox live.

It';s not even about emotional fragillity, it;s about other people extending you the same kind of respect that you extend them.

If you allow certain types of people the freedom to crap on you the way they want to, then you just encourage them to keep on doing it. Dont get me wrong, I'm not overly upset by this kind of behavior, thing is, I'm not just going to accept it without bitching, because i know that nothing will change if I just accept it. Don't accept people crapping on you, or they will just keep on doing it. Fullstop.

I applaud your get on with it mentality, that's what they instil in you in the armed forces, and for good reason, but I'm here to play a bloody game, and hopefully have fun. I can deal with people being better than me, I'm buggered if I'm gonna cop unnecessary and unsportsmanlike attitude while I'm doing it. Each to his own.

Edited by Petard, 06 September 2015 - 08:44 AM.

[EgoSlayer]

El Bandito, on 06 September 2015 - 06:50 AM, said:

No it is not. It hasn't been sportsman-like to say "GG" after stomping a team, for a long time. Hence I always just type "GJ team" instead, in all chat after stomping the opposition. Getting stomped is never a good game to the other side. Understanding that fact is one of the steps of becoming a respectful player.

Considering that most games are a stomp, and you have no idea if the person typing 'gg' is at 99% or 10% health - you are taking it the wrong way and reading too much into 'gg'. Understanding that is a key step of becoming an aware player.

GG/gg is good sportsmanship. 'ggclose' is not.

Edited by EgoSlayer, 06 September 2015 - 08:37 AM.

[Col Jaime Wolf]

whether its 12-0 or 0-12 or a close game like 12-11 i try to always throw out a "<o reds" or a "wp reds <o". because win or lose the player that respects his enemy will learn and become a better player himself.

and i do feel with the op on this kind of thing. i used to play hockey up until around high school and the coaches on both teams would encourage players to shake hands and congratulate each other for a game well played.

[Petard]

Wintersdark, on 06 September 2015 - 08:35 AM, said:

I wish I could like this more.

Maybe it's just that I'm old and surly, but the impact that growing up in an on-line world free of consequences has had on children these days is horrific. So many little ******** who feel it's ok to act however they want, free of consequence.

In my day, you'd get punched. But, while that may sound horrible, it didn't happen because people learned to be polite, instead of little douchebags.

Internet anonymity is a horrible thing.




Get off my lawn.

I soooooo wish I could like this more, you sir, win the Internet for the day. <o.

[TLBFestus]

Petard, on 06 September 2015 - 06:04 AM, said:

.......What he said.......

The fundamental flaw in your post is that you are appealing to a level of maturity in that group that doesn't exist.

[Sorbic]

The ones I've grown to dislike is the folks who suicide run into a team and when criticized exclaim "whatever my team will lose 2-4 to 12 anyways." Gotta love self fulfilling prophecy's.

[Mystere]

Wintersdark, on 06 September 2015 - 08:35 AM, said:

In my day, you'd get punched. But, while that may sound horrible, it didn't happen because people learned to be polite, instead of little douchebags.

In my day, you swam with the fishes.

[Wintersdark]

ugrakarma, on 06 September 2015 - 08:24 AM, said:

Meh, I wouldn't stress about it. gglose became a joke long time ago and as it should be taken as such. If you lose to a stomp and get ggclosed or talked crap you just press disconnect and drop to another match. To me these days it's just random nickname saying random stuff in an online game. We are all dickheads sometimes in game and in real life. It's just a fact to accept no need to try to act like the purest dove picking the garbage can...

Hey, I have never "ggclose"'d an opposing team I've stomped. As such, I reserve the right to act like the purest dove picking the garbage can.

[Spleenslitta]

There is a lot that gets to me but it's mostly TK's, Leechers and guys who just throw profanity at their entire team as soon as they die.

I saw a guy stand facing a cliff at the Tourmaline Desert map throughtout an entire match and then suddenly when the match was nearly finished he woke up.
He started insulting all his entire team and me especially since he didn't like my weird tactics. I admit my tactics are weird but they work.
So he fights and dies after doing 194 damage. We won the match by a hair and we couldn't have done it without that 194 damage.

Even though he pitched in at the end i think a guy like that needs a loooong ban or even get permabanned.
I actually regret i didn't die early in that match. If i did i could have taken screenshots while spectating him and reported him.

[Petard]

TLBFestus, on 06 September 2015 - 08:48 AM, said:

The fundamental flaw in your post is that you are appealing to a level of maturity in that group that doesn't exist.

You are 100% correct, and I was well aware of that when i made the post...I do feel better now though.

[Petard]

Spleenslitta, on 06 September 2015 - 09:11 AM, said:

There is a lot that gets to me but it's mostly TK's, Leechers and guys who just throw profanity at their entire team as soon as they die.

I saw a guy stand facing a cliff at the Tourmaline Desert map throughtout an entire match and then suddenly when the match was nearly finished he woke up.
He started insulting all his entire team and me especially since he didn't like my weird tactics. I admit my tactics are weird but they work.
So he fights and dies after doing 194 damage. We won the match by a hair and we couldn't have done it without that 194 damage.

Even though he pitched in at the end i think a guy like that needs a loooong ban or even get permabanned.
I actually regret i didn't die early in that match. If i did i could have taken screenshots while spectating him and reported him.

I'm with you mate, I've played with and against you, and you are a solid player...Scrubs that hide so they can come in fresh at the end and clean up REALLY gripe me too...

[Felbombling]

It only takes one person to say something like ggclose on a landslide win to embolden a bunch of other people to do it all day long, due to anonymity. OP is correct on that.

I had an interesting exchange with a player in War Thunder yesterday who got shot down in his dive bomber, after being attacked by two fighters near the end of the match. He fought them off hard, and both fighters were smoking as they tailed off. The exchange went something like this...

[Me]: Nice job, man.
[Player]: What? What do you mean by that?
[Me]: You might get two kills out of that.
[Player]: What the hell did you expect? There was two of them.
[Me]: I know... I'm not slap talking you, I'm basically saying 'Well done!'
[Player] Oh, sorry. Most people are jerks in this game. Thanks.

That just about sums up how toxic games communities have become, doesn't it? You have to spell out a compliment in crayon for people to take your meaning.

[Fate 6]

ggfar