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[Sarlic]

Let the laser vomit begin.

[Kira Onime]

Scout Derek, on 15 September 2015 - 10:36 AM, said:

Kind of hard for the ballistic-missile build. I couldn't find a good balance with it, so I ran 2mgs, 3 Streak 18 and swaped one missile ST pod for the 3E hardpoint, so that I could take a large and 2 mediums for backup weapons with the MGs.

I personally don't like the Ballistic-Missile builds.
Way too ammo dependent.

[DarkMetalBlade]

My prediction on what's going to happen upon everyone hearing about this:

For shorter wait times, DON'T play heavies!

Thank god I've just got all of my Jags mastered. & hey, this means I'll be able to actually pilot my Maulers.

[FupDup]

Scout Derek, on 15 September 2015 - 10:33 AM, said:

Torso turn rate on the Jaguar is slower than the timber as well, and has wider arms.

No it's not. Both mechs have the same top speed, thus their base agility stats (including torso twist speed) are the same. That's how MWO does agility.

In fact, the TBR currently has some small agility negaquirks on the S torsos, meaning if you use one or both of them then the TBR will have a little bit less agility than the EBJ.

[Scout Derek]

Sigilum Sanctum, on 15 September 2015 - 10:36 AM, said:

Twin gauss on this thing is magical.

FupDup, on 15 September 2015 - 10:45 AM, said:

No it's not. Both mechs have the same top speed, thus their base agility stats (including torso twist speed) are the same. That's how MWO does agility.

In fact, the TBR currently has some small agility negaquirks on the S torsos, meaning if you use one or both of them then the TBR will have a little bit less agility than the EBJ.

Hmm, you're right, it's probably the hitboxes that make it feel like I'm moving slower when torso turning.

[xMintaka]

I just tried 2x LPL + 6x ERML.

Don't do it. At least wait until double basics...

[FupDup]

Scout Derek, on 15 September 2015 - 10:47 AM, said:

Hmm, you're right, it's probably the hitboxes that make it feel like I'm moving slower when torso turning.

That, or the lack of LAA.

[Scout Derek]

Kira_Onime, on 15 September 2015 - 10:42 AM, said:

I personally don't like the Ballistic-Missile builds.
Way too ammo dependent.

I've done 1 gauss dual pulse 1 small build, all weapons in STs.

Strip the arms for more gauss ammo, and the small is a placeholder so that the pulses and gauss sync up perfectly on the higher mounts, I've gotten 600+ damage games most of the time when using that build.

[1453 R]

12M for Cauldron-Borns? That's a pretty sweet deal for an excellent Clan 'Mech, considering the TBR is another 3M on top of it. I'd definitely grab CBNs over TBRs for general utility, if I didn't already have the things.

[Davegt27]

I think the TW is going the way of the Dodo

Of course people won’t accept that

I could have sworn I got blown away by an EBJ with dual gauss

[Kira Onime]

Davegt27, on 15 September 2015 - 10:56 AM, said:

I think the TW is going the way of the Dodo

Not really.

[Nori Silverrage]

2x GR, 3x ERSML (or 2x ERML)
2x UAC10, 3x ERML
2x LPL, 4x ERML
1x GR, 5x ERML (6 is doable just keep in mind it is HOT)
7x MPL with 25DHS. Haven't tried this, but it could work.

The high shoulder mount can make something like a LBX20/UAC20 pretty interesting. I don't love it though TBH.

Edited by Nori Silverrage, 15 September 2015 - 11:01 AM.

[Scout Derek]

Davegt27, on 15 September 2015 - 10:56 AM, said:

I think the TW is going the way of the Dodo

Of course people won’t accept that

I could have sworn I got blown away by an EBJ with dual gauss

Max ammo one can take with EBJ dual gauss is 60, and that's sacrificing one arm's entire armor count.

Nori Silverrage, on 15 September 2015 - 10:58 AM, said:

2x GR, 3x ERSML (or 2x ERML)
2x UAC10, 3x ERML
2x LPL, 4x ERML
1x GR, 5x ERML (6 is doable just keep in mind it is HOT)

The high shoulder mount can make something like a LBX20/UAC20 pretty interesting. I don't love it though TBH.

UAC 10 with 4 smalls brawler 3 matches back before release of MC:



It's better to put the UACs in the arms for maximum utility in situations where you have to aim high with your arms.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Kira_Onime, on 15 September 2015 - 10:33 AM, said:

EBJ-B comes with the stock omni pods to make the 2LPL-4ML build without changing any of them.
EBJ-A requires 1 omni pod change to make the gauss-6ML laser build. Will do 5 without changing.

The other 2 require multiple omnipod changes unless you want to run a ballistic-missle build on the C.

Thank you for the info!

[Nori Silverrage]

Hmm, I should try this:
5xMPL, 2x SRM6+A (2.5t ammo), 23 DHS.

[Kira Onime]

Nori Silverrage, on 15 September 2015 - 10:58 AM, said:

7x MPL with 25DHS. Haven't tried this, but it could work.

6 is better.

[Xetelian]

Rhaythe, on 15 September 2015 - 09:56 AM, said:

Haven't even looked the EBJ's way... except when shooting it. What are some good builds for it?

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...190626009803e77
^ EBJ that dreams of being a JM6 DD or a CTF 4X I pull off some crazy damage with this and both sides of the mech have enough firepower to finish someone after I lost a side.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...48fffe6a1c1c523
^ 2LPL and 6 erML make this the TDR or CTF 1X wannabe

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c11e7b1caf52967
^ Dual Gauss.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...9f48f6b1c264eb6
^ Obligatory LRM boat with real backup weapons. You can also go 4 LRM15s but the missile shoulder is not as useful as the 3 energy one.



These aren't tier 1 builds, I don't subscribe to the meta but they should be adequate for anyone or give you the general idea.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0d72572598b9d93

This is my best attempt at a meta build^ All PPFLD

[Revis Volek]

Kira_Onime, on 15 September 2015 - 10:01 AM, said:

About 90% of what the TBR can do, the EBJ can do as well.

The EBj can and does run 3 U-A/C 5's better then the TBR...i dont even think it can run 3.

Also has no neg quirks on its Laser Vomit so take advantage of that. Can vomit just like the TBR but with no drawbacks....yet.

I also run the C with Dual U-A/C 5's in the arm, 2 LRM 5's (one in each Arm) and 2 LRM 15's (one in each torso). No one expects the LRM mech to close range and finish you off with Dakka.

Edited by DarthRevis, 15 September 2015 - 01:28 PM.

[Kira Onime]

DarthRevis, on 15 September 2015 - 01:26 PM, said:

TBR...i dont even think it can run 3.

It can but it only has 5 tons of free pod space to play with. The 2 tons of locked JJs required to run 3 UAC5 hurts it's ability to do it effectively.

EBJ on the other hand has 8 tons of free podspace to play with after the UACs.

[Cyborne Elemental]

Lyoto Machida, on 15 September 2015 - 09:14 AM, said:

Nice...been wanting an EBJ (or 3). Only problem is that all my wave 1 Clan mechs sit dusty already. Not sure if I've ever driven an Adder yet...

You should.
Adder after quirks and CT flamer pull is a pretty nice mech now.

Either way, just bought my first today.

Havn't had a loss yet
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...52bd3fbca8781ec

Edited by Mister D, 15 September 2015 - 02:29 PM.