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[Cox Devalis]

1 21 Giggawatts, on 22 September 2015 - 12:55 AM, said:

Im very dissappointed to read this. I thought it must be the case though when I am seeing 4 - 5 disco's in nearly every game now. Not a good move!!! So each game win is now determined by how many players bail on each team rather than the skill of the team...

Getting penalty for disconnect after death was "not a good move" too.

[Docta Pain]

Wait, was IGP involved in this event? bc it seems to me...

[MFZ]

A Vieira, on 21 September 2015 - 04:09 PM, said:

What do you guys think is my problem, getting the score, or getting the map?
Multiple goes at every map, and no Emerald Taiga.

Similar picture for me. No Emerald Taiga for the whole event.
And I did not use my _1_ chance on Vitric Forge because I had the same as:

Kiu, on 21 September 2015 - 04:36 PM, said:

Two (2!!!) drops on Vitric Forge - the whole weekend. One vs 12-PRE and one vs BEACONS?

1st chance not used and the 2nd drop against beacons ...

Regards, MFZ

[Docta Pain]

been at this 6 hours straight. seen Canyon once and my team got stomped yet I managed 285... come on... what is the deal, where is CANYON!?! Is this and experiment where the MM can un-select the map you want telepathically???

[Zeoraimer]

Can we rename this to the DISCO Challenge?

I actually didn't mind where the bar was set originally - its a challenge and I welcome it (maybe have a lower tier with 1 day PT or just cbills/consumables. Looking out for the newer players here).

The root cause of all the disconnects, kamikaze runs, and player frustration was players chasing RANDOM maps. For the remaining players who haven't disco'd or suicided, ran around the map like headless chickens scrambling for kills. You HAD to support them, since it would be useless to be the only one left alive at 0-6 or worse.

These behaviors got worse and worse as people became increasingly desperate chasing RNG beyond their control as the weekend runs out.

All the matches were over so quickly, that even if you had 2 kills (thats half a lance dead!) you would be hard pressed to have more than 400 damage. Despite my active Premium Time, Cbill earnings were rubbish.

I probably averaged 2 hours a day over 4 days, and got Caustic Valley once. Then we got stomped leaving me at 179 Match Score. No Tier 1 for me.

Bad Event. Please PGI, no more random Maps as a requirement. Once my 30 days active PT expires in 7 days, I'm gonna take a break from this.

[Docta Pain]

How can I prove that I am master of Canyon if MM doesn't give it to me?

[Zeusacoatl]

I hope the rumblings I am hearing in game are true, and you are taking the rewards away from those who were disconnecting at the beginning of matches. It really made the last day worthless and not very fun, if it was not for the same worthless pilots who dropped at the beginning of the match, it was the people that legged those same worthless pilots when they found the map they needed. Though that was very funny and well deserved, it made for some very one sided matches.

I also hope those offenders get a temp ban for their craptastic behavior.

[MFZ]

Gat, on 21 September 2015 - 06:18 PM, said:

I found the CW ones to be far more annoying because depending on the amount of people you are waiting 10-60 minutes for a match. Then 30 minutes for the match to finish. That is a real pain when you are waiting for one specific map. Even worse is when you score a 197 on that last map. In addition to the chance you can shadow drop and on top of that the whole Match Score is divided between your used mechs makes it so everyone want's to be in the back taking potshots and going for component destruction over kills. Many times I was killed by an enemy just because allies were targeting him for max damage not for the kill.

You got a *like* for this part but

Gat, on 21 September 2015 - 06:18 PM, said:

Just reducing the requirement from 200 and 300 to 175 and 275 would make a large difference.

this is just you. 25 points may make the difference for you but it is not addressing the underlying issue which is:

Alteran, on 21 September 2015 - 06:34 PM, said:

Like so many, basing a challenge on the RNG map was bad. I loved the challenge overall, but the map generation sucked ballz.

Sorry MWO, love the game and have the entire time, but this was badly thought out.

Alteran

QFT

[Ebelon]

OK, so my Oppinion for this event:

The whole event was well thought out - with disconnect in Mind and a fair punishment for disco´d players.
Unfortunately you had to remove the strike rule, which was a big frustrating thing because you see discoed players all the time.
A few suggestions from my point of view:

1.)
I think the disco strike counter really should have been activated wiith the rule "everybody has to stay until the end of the match even in spectator mod" maximum strike count: 5 or something, which covers the disconnect by Game error disconnections.
So nobody would have made suicide runs and no self destruction with out of bounds to leave the match without helping the team. (sure some whiners would cry about this, but it would have been a better solution than the frustration because of selfish discoed or suicide players)

2.)
Obviously the Maps where choosen in a way that it seems they are not randomly with equal chances.
In my case I dropped ~12 hours on saturday and mostly got caustic and Crimson (switched between these two most of the times). followed by canyon network.
I did not see the other maps often and on HPG I only dropped 4 times.
On Monday evening I did 6 drops to get my last 400+ score at HPG - and guess what - 4 times of my 6 drops were on HPG... so i managed to get the 400+ score and was very happy.
Maybe it is possible to implement some logic on the client side to give maps which where not choosen for some drops a higher priority to alter the complete randomness for more map diversity.
(SImple algorythm like: no HPG for the last x drops -> HPG gets a higher chance instead of 1/MapCount chance)

3.)
Lowering the Tier minimum points was a not so good idea.
That is frustrating for the players who did their best to reach the 400 points and managed to get them in each Map.
A better solution would have been to introduce a new 200 Points reward to statisfy the newer players which cant get the higher scores.
The second best solution would have been to introduce 400 Points special rewards for the ones who reached the 400 points already after lowering the minimum points.
For now its frustrating to see that the hard fight for the higher match scores was completely unnecessary.

All in all: thank you for creating such events - despite all the "not so optimal" choices I still have fun fighting in events and get a reward for that. I really appreciate that you have MC rewards too.

Thanks for reading, and greetings to all
Ebelon.

[Silent Kill]

Comn guys! Expand challenge time. Cant get all maps in cw! Not because of low score, but because of MM does not giving it to me.

[MFZ]

condor1X1, on 21 September 2015 - 08:01 PM, said:

THIS IS THE WORST EVENT EVER......SO MANY DISCOS......DO I GET SOMETHING FOR HAVING TO DEAL WITH STUPIDITY OF THE PERSON WHO CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA.

i totaly understand why the people discoing are doing it cause they can.......you should have known that before you made the event.....and now i have to suffer the concquncies....thanx a bunch.... < i think i spelt that wrong

Simple solution: Report them.
Max discos in a match I had was 6 (though 1 probably was a genuine crash cause he reconnected)

[Feywald]

I am going to guess the answer to my question is no, but has PGI said anything about rewarding player who havent been able to get certain maps.
I have spent all weekend in MWO queue's and i haven't seen canyons once. All the over maps i am at 400+ but that one is still 0.

[Nephoros Sradac]

hohmahohma, on 22 September 2015 - 01:04 AM, said:

Getting penalty for disconnect after death was "not a good move" too.

Majority were not dead!!

[Cox Devalis]

Bastardinc, on 22 September 2015 - 02:48 AM, said:

Majority were not dead!!

In the beginning of this event majority (if not all) were dead when disconnected. People started to disconnect being alive since this rule was removed.

[Fangry]

What this even boils down to for me personally is that.. CAN YOU FIX THE DAMN MM so we don't have to play the same DAMN map every time. Even before this event there were days in CW where you would only get to play 1-2 of the same maps during 5 hours of CW.

This kind of repetition with the map pool does not help the game in any way!

People should also not be penalized for wanting to play a certain type of builds.. (brawl, sniper...)

[Appogee]

I hope they extend the event.

I have played MWO for cumulatively more than 32 hours since Friday. I only had 5 matches on HPG and failed on every attempt to even get 200. And the only time I've been able to drop on Vitric it's been ghost drops.

Having tried so hard for so long, I'd really like to be able to finish it.

I know this suggestion wont be popular with those who already completed the Challenge. But I hope they will imagine what it would be like if the RNG had just kept serving up the wrong maps for three full days, and take some pity on those of us not as fortunate.

Edited by Appogee, 22 September 2015 - 03:29 AM.

[Imigo Montoya]

Thx for changing the Rules for the maps right befor the Primetime starts in North America, sry thi game is so NA centric....

the same with th ComStar Intercepts for Steiner which mostly NA players could achieve because the planet could not be attacked and after it was won it wasn't in the circle.

[Vimeous]

I've enjoyed the PuG Event, just wish I had enough time to tackle the CW.
Surprised myself at getting 400+ across the board - well almost.
Happy the cap was reduced to reward more players.

My only disappointment is that for 6hrs+ last night 3 of us solo dropped looking for that last elusive map and singularly failed to get one drop to attempt any score. For each it was a different map, in my case HPG.
The irony of players unable to get a drop on Forest when I saw it every other drop was not lost.

To consign the event as a disappointment because the map rotation is being fickle is doing it a disservice. The matches have often been close and it's always a joy to come across drops where players are keen to reach out and take their points score with both metal fists rather than plink-plinking over the shoulders of teammates from implausible ranges.
Ultimately I will feel sadness if many are defeated by the rotation rather than by mech-smash-rain-boom.

Maybe I can squeeze one last drop in after work before the end?
Fingers crossed!

[DemonRaziel]

Kaptain, on 21 September 2015 - 08:14 PM, said:

Did this JUST happen?

Yesterday evening.

[Mr Arigato]

were is canyon!

this event makes me angry and sad!

start thinking pgi