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[Kilo 40]

so last week I start a match and about 30 seconds in I hear the dogs start barking in my back yard. and it's the kind of bark where I know someone is walking by or up to the door to my house, so I quickly find a little hidden spot to hide and power down. I ran out back, get the dogs in and sit down and put my head phones back on. the first thing I hear is "wtf are you doing coward! dont just hide and power down! help your team coward!"

I power back up and I start to type something like "sorry. had to do something" but then I start hearing the same dude yelling "don't just stand there after you powered up! help your team idiot!". so I type "stfu. had to deal with real life". he says "oh ok. but you should have just said that instead of saying stfu like an ass". so I type "stfu" again, and then he calls me a toxic player.Ignore him the rest of the match.

that's my cool powered downed pug story bro.

[Pjwned]

Kavoh, on 17 September 2015 - 07:31 PM, said:

"I've not been caught for this crime, so clearly its not illegal!"

That's not what I'm saying.

[AssaultPig]

they are not going to ban people for giving out coordinates of those who are afk/offline/griefing

the CoC is really pretty meaningless; it represents a guideline at best on these issues

[Satan n stuff]

Pjwned, on 17 September 2015 - 11:02 PM, said:

That's not what I'm saying.

Basically it is.

[ApolloKaras]

Satan n stuff, on 18 September 2015 - 12:47 AM, said:

Basically it is.

Read what Buddah posted. Pjwned has wording that backs him up. Both I need that email and the CoC.
Frankly if someone is shut down and is not actively participating in the match there are 23 other people that are being impeded from enjoying the game.

[Pjwned]

Satan n stuff, on 18 September 2015 - 12:47 AM, said:

Basically it is.

I didn't say it wasn't breaking the rules, only that I've never been punished for it despite having players whine about it once or twice ever.

So no, that's not "basically" what I'm saying.

[Satan n stuff]

Saxie, on 18 September 2015 - 12:50 AM, said:

Read what Buddah posted. Pjwned has wording that backs him up. Both I need that email and the CoC.
Frankly if someone is shut down and is not actively participating in the match there are 23 other people that are being impeded from enjoying the game.

As far as I know an official announcement beats the word of a single GM.

Mystere, on 17 September 2015 - 05:40 PM, said:

Because you and many others insist on looking at the wrong thing. Here is the relevant rule.

Considering that post is still pinned in the Rules & Guidelines forum, I'd say it's still in effect.

Edited by Satan n stuff, 18 September 2015 - 12:57 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 17 September 2015 - 08:43 PM, said:

Actually, dunno. This was the first mail I got about this:



lol fixt after 2.0

then I got



Then most recently I asked and they said

Do we Include the OP I wonder?

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 18 September 2015 - 03:56 AM.

[Raggedyman]

MaximusPayne, on 17 September 2015 - 05:21 PM, said:

Granted, this doesn't happen very often but when it does, I quickly reach for the logout button...
This one time, in puglandia, my team of mech misfits tried (again) to win by splitting up into separate groups. Even though I tried in vain to rally the troops to a common point to engage the enemy, our numbers quickly dropped to 10v12, then 7v11, then 3v10 before I went down with guns blazing. As I went to spectator mode, I notice one of our survivors was fighting the good fight by himself. When he fell, we all switched to spectate the final team mate who was critically damaged and running away from the fray. He jj'd up to a high point on the map and then powered down
...with 7 minutes remaining. For some reason, he thought it necessary to make us all wait out the rest of the match in order to avoid racking another D in his K/D count. This has happened once before and the cowa- player admitted to "hiding like a btch" (his words, not mine).

Guys, I'm here to play a game by swapping laser fire with fellow mechwarriors. I seriously doubt anyone gives a crap about your personal stats, even if you do. Thankfully, the solution to this problem can be remedied with the game's built in tools. I suggest, for every second a player powers down, he loses a point from his score. This way, he keeps his precious K/D from dropping and, in exchange, he drops out of my tier so that we never cross paths again. See? A win-win for everyone.

/pats self on back

Options

1 - Turn off Skirmish, remove chance of this happening
2 - Keep Skirmish on, have the chance of this happening

Skirmish is the only game mode without a non-death victory condition
Regardless of what the rules or etiquette or honour or whatever may be, this can and will happen
If it upsets you enough to write a post then hit the button to get it out of your life

[Raggedyman]

FupDup, on 17 September 2015 - 08:44 PM, said:

Which one of those is supposed to be their position at the time?

The final one.
It's a nice way of saying "The TOS means we can do what we want, when we want, how we want. Anything else is irrelevant."

[Yellonet]

Alek Ituin, on 17 September 2015 - 08:23 PM, said:

Lets be honest here: You should be able to give the location of AFK's and DC's to the enemy team without fear of reprisal.

No, it should be an automatic function that ends the match if one of the teams players are afk/disco for a certain amount of time.

[Lightfoot]

There are tactical reasons to power down, though they probably last no more than a minute. I did this to get a clean back-shot on my target inside the HPG structure last week. They ran right past me and I got a quick kill.

'All Dead or Fled', is probably what you want. After 2 minutes shutdown the mech is counted as 'Fled'. They could even get a mark, K/D/F. Makes it an honor issue as well.

[Sjorpha]

So what about the people with a BT RPG background coming from a perspective of: "What would a real mech pilot do?"

At least for an IS mechwarrior, the thing to do when being the last survivor of a lost battle would be to hide and try to get home alive with intel on the enemy force.

I don't like it in practice, but I can't really argue that it's not a legit argument. It is a simulation game based on a roleplay heavy IP after all.

[nehebkau]

@ OP:

Un-check skirmish. Problem solved.

[TWIAFU]

Vlad Ward, on 17 September 2015 - 08:08 PM, said:

What makes you think the people that do this give a **** about their KDR?

Whenever we hear from people like this in other threads, it's made abundantly clear that they're just awful sports who want to throw a big middle finger at the other team (and many times their own team, who they have decided are awful and deserve it just as much for not carrying their machine gun spider).

The Mommies Special Snowflake syndrome.


Screenshot and report them. Later, watch the temper tantrum after they are banned.

[Mudhutwarrior]

What these team treason jerks don't understand is many times the hide is to get one more kill. Sure sometimes it's a guy being a jerk but who are we to know whats in their hearts at the moment. If I am last man standing I do whatever I can to get one more at least. If that means hiding for an ambush so be it. I have had some perfect setups ruined by the jerk who thinks he is special and because he sucks and is dead the game should end when he decides.

If I have to wait a minute or two for a killshot I will. If you give away my position I will report you. I Am only holding up those who want to be held up. All of us have more than one mech so disco and start again.

What this boils down to is the fact that one signs on for a 15 minute match with the option to leave whenever you want.

Treason is treason. I never give position even if its a solid dc. At most I will say its a DC. The other team should be smart enough to find the drop zone. Those who give away positions are never to be trusted. It's a matter of character. Nothing else.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

AssaultPig, on 18 September 2015 - 12:33 AM, said:

they are not going to ban people for giving out coordinates of those who are afk/offline/griefing

the CoC is really pretty meaningless; it represents a guideline at best on these issues

according to the GM I asked, they will is they want to

Satan n stuff, on 18 September 2015 - 12:56 AM, said:

As far as I know an official announcement beats the word of a single GM.

Technically I have 2 GMs

AssaultPig, on 18 September 2015 - 12:33 AM, said:

the CoC is really pretty meaningless; it represents a guideline at best on these issues

The reason is they want to be able to enforce when they want to rather than having clearly defined rulesets. Also so ppl cant abuse the spirit of the rules by edging the rules.

[Revis Volek]

Mystere, on 17 September 2015 - 05:40 PM, said:

Because you and many others insist on looking at the wrong thing. Here is the relevant rule.

Shutting down on anything outside Conquest as also against the ToC.

[Mudhutwarrior]

DarthRevis, on 18 September 2015 - 06:32 AM, said:

Shutting down on anything outside Conquest as also against the ToC.

Cite please?

[Davegt27]

One time a player shut down because damage and we all started raging against the guy

Then he typed he was trying to get an award

We all changed our tune it was sort of amazing how our attitude changed

We were like oh ok

I try not to be such a hard AZZ these days it’s only a game