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[VanBurenPhilips]

Kira_Onime, on 20 September 2015 - 11:11 AM, said:

It took me ~6-8 hours to complete.
The event will also run for around 6 days until the patch hits on Tuesday.

I just find it enjoyable to have a challenging event every now and then and honestly, unless you have 10 hour work days, time is not an excuse. The time is there, you simply have to take it.

Your experience is not representative of.. anything else at all. You were lucky with your maps, others have not been. EU players only get sat, sun & two evenings on this event, assuming work in the daytime. I myself have been playing the entire weekend and still have 2 CW maps to get - I just keep getting Grim and Boreal over and over and over again. So don't assume just because you were phenomenally lucky that the event rules are realistic. A skim-read of this thread shows you're in the minority.

[GrimRiver]

Mawai, on 18 September 2015 - 10:36 AM, said:

Hi All,

Once again PGI fails at math.

http://mwomercs.com/tournaments

We have a territorial challenge this weekend where you need to get a match score or 300+ and 400+ on each of 9 maps in the public queue in order to get a prize.

Sounds good right? Maybe 20 games if you get good results ... maybe 40 if you only make the match score on half?

Unfortunately wrong since it doesn't factor in the random selection of maps. It is most likely that you will be hard pressed to get that last map you need and getting that last map is usually going to take a while.

Here is a link to the math ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coupon_collector's_problem

TLDR ... to get one match on each of the 9 maps will on average require on average 26 matches (sometimes a lot more) and that doesn't factor in whether you make the match score or not.

Getting 2 matches on each is the same as collecting 18 coupons in the table so on average it will take 63 matches just to get 2 matches on each map.

NOW factor in the match score.

How easy is it to get a match score of 300? 400? Do you see that 50% of the time? More? Less? Factor that in and you will need upwards of 120 matches in the public queue to complete just the public queue challenges.

Given how long a CW match takes ... it will take about 38 matches to get 2 games on each of the 6 maps. Hope it is easy to get a match score of 200 or 300 since with requiring an average of 38 CW matches seems to me will take most of the weekend just to see the maps.

LOL. PGI and math just do not go together.

I suspect there may be an IMMENSE amount of FRUSTRATION with this current tournament as the weekend rolls on ... as folks try to get that last match on that last map with the minimum required match score. A few will get lucky ... the rest ... well I will leave that to your imagination.

At first I thought "Hmm sounds too good to be true." and after 6/7 straight hours playing I found the system can't be beaten unless you're blessed by the luck of the gods because it always gives you the last 2 maps VERY rarely and when you do get those maps your team will AWAYS go 1-12 with less then 300 points no matter how hard you try.

I've been using my BNC-3E with 3 ac5's+maxed ac5 mod and 4 med lasers + AV zoom that always got at least 500dmg and 1000+ the most but with this event I for the life of me can't get 400dmg=200+ points when im on the maps I need.

So I gave up because too much stress.

[Evil Ash]

This event is rubbing me the wrong way with people DCing because they don't have the map they want like spoiled brats, but doing that seems to be the only way anyones going to get on the 2 maps they actually &!^%ing need.

I've played Forest Colony and Tourmaline too many times, I NEED A USEFUL MAP!

[Too Much Love]

Evil Ash, on 20 September 2015 - 12:34 PM, said:

This event is rubbing me the wrong way with people DCing because they don't have the map they want like spoiled brats, but doing that seems to be the only way anyones going to get on the 2 maps they actually &!^%ing need.

I've played Forest Colony and Tourmaline too many times, I NEED A USEFUL MAP!

I got the same!!!

[Evil Ash]

Dang drunkstar maybe it's not just coincidence!

PGI WHY CANT WE CHOOSE WHAT MAP WE WANT

Edited by Evil Ash, 20 September 2015 - 12:42 PM.

[Kira Onime]

maps for

VanBurenPhilips, on 20 September 2015 - 12:30 PM, said:

Your experience is not representative of.. anything else at all.

No ones experience is representative if you don't have the bigger picture.

VanBurenPhilips, on 20 September 2015 - 12:30 PM, said:

You were lucky with your maps, others have not been. EU players only get sat, sun & two evenings on this event, assuming work in the daytime. I myself have been playing the entire weekend and still have 2 CW maps to get - I just keep getting Grim and Boreal over and over and over again.

For everyone complaining about seeing X map all the time, you could have N number of players that need said map but see map Y all the time. It's unfortunate that EU don't have as much time. I would of personally preferred seeing the event work as 7/ 9 needing for the regular queue rewards and like 4/6 for CW.
All maps would be required for the leaderboards afterwards.

VanBurenPhilips, on 20 September 2015 - 12:30 PM, said:

So don't assume just because you were phenomenally lucky that the event rules are realistic. A skim-read of this thread shows you're in the minority.

Without the bigger picture, you can claim that I got lucky on my rotation but I can just as easily say you got unlucky.
Also keep in mind that the forum is a vocal minority, every one using their own personal experiences has to be taken with a major grain of salt.

[I L L]

I'm still getting Caustic, Bog, Crimson and Canyon on repeat.

[Commander A9]

One left...Crimson Strait...

[Xetelian]

People are disconnecting because they don't need the map that our match is on.

PGI needs to know that so they don't do this again.

[Commander A9]

I sympathize with anyone who disconnects or does kamikaze attacks just to switch maps. I have no problem with that at all.

[Bobbys Gherkin]

Sooooo close, I've only had one drop on HPG in 8 hours... Those 5 points, they mock me

Edited by Bobbys Gherkin, 20 September 2015 - 05:36 PM.

[oldradagast]

Lord Scarlett Johan, on 18 September 2015 - 10:53 AM, said:

I'm a total of 8 hours into it. I still haven't seen HPG yet.

I've gotten it 3 out of 5 games... I'd gladly let you take it in exchange for some other map! Lol... idiotic tournament is idiotic.

[Lord Marshmallow]

I have often thought that maps should be on a timed rotation. Everyone gets the same map for a 8ish minute period, then everyone gets the next map and so on. That would help eliminate getting the same map 3 times in a row or not getting one map ever.

This tournament was awful...about 60 matches today and I got Viridian bog 2 times. I spent all damn day trying to get it. Meanwhile, all the disconnects and suicides made playing those other 58 maps tedious. I won't play another tournament like this.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

oldradagast, on 20 September 2015 - 05:26 PM, said:

I've gotten it 3 out of 5 games... I'd gladly let you take it in exchange for some other map! Lol... idiotic tournament is idiotic.

Lulz, it wasn't until the end of the second night, nearly 24 hours in that I saw it. Then I got my 400 for it and it just kept coming at that point.

[riverslq]

average score of more than 400 per map, but still nope. I never get crimson or canyon enough to even try. 2-3 each total over the time this event has been running.

[Commander A9]

Finally got the public games done, Tier 2, after 14 hours of play today.

I have 2 left on Tier 2 for Community Warfare; going to drop with my unit and allied units to make this happen. Seems to be the best way to do it.

Good luck guys. I'm glad I finished this...finally...

God, I hope PGI learns from this...

Edited by Commander A9, 20 September 2015 - 11:13 PM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Joseph Mallan, on 18 September 2015 - 06:16 PM, said:

I'm in 13,555th Place after 3 matches. I thought we didn't have many players?

Now over 21,000th place!

[sycocys]

Joseph Mallan, on 21 September 2015 - 01:46 AM, said:

Now over 21,000th place!

Are you trying to see how poorly you can do? Or just trying to tank your PSR?

[Speedy Plysitkos]

sycocys, on 21 September 2015 - 02:42 AM, said:

Are you trying to see how poorly you can do? Or just trying to tank your PSR?

He wants to get T5, and demolish there everything........ like a bouuusssss.

[Mudhutwarrior]

Joseph Mallan, on 21 September 2015 - 01:46 AM, said:

Now over 21,000th place!

Considering most of us have alt accounts those numbers are pretty poor. I think you could easily knock a third off as being one person with multiple accounts. All the team guys have them and use them for farming and events like these.