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[Mechwarrior Buddah]

TheCrimsonBinome, on 22 September 2015 - 05:28 AM, said:

IMO should have just canceled event and given everyone 500k-1mil per map/tier completed + a random goodie or something as well as giving the top rank players something special whether it be the advertised prizes or not

For the ppl who followed the rules, yes.

[sneeking]

Crap like this is why you seen no coin from me since the trashcan and periodic forum checks with no game time is all i bother with...

Events ruined this game and its clear youre not learning from the failures.

[PyckenZot]

TheCrimsonBinome, on 22 September 2015 - 05:28 AM, said:

IMO should have just canceled event and given everyone 500k-1mil per map/tier completed + a random goodie or something as well as giving the top rank players something special whether it be the advertised prizes or not

This is exactly the attitude I am talking up against. They should not have done anything. We were given an event in which you could win stuff. Not in which they had to give you goodies. If you chose to farm for 8 hours. Don't blame it on the game.
Seriously, a free to play game and still demand certainty on more free stuff?

What is wrong with this world?

Edited by PyckenZot, 22 September 2015 - 06:05 AM.

[Mystere]

crashlogic, on 22 September 2015 - 12:22 AM, said:

I am also a victim of meta builds, try hards and laservomit and the dreaded arctic cheeter. I don't think those players should be suspended either.

What on earth are you talking about? Of course these should not receive any sanctions. Why even mention them.

[Damien Tokala]

I wake up to find my thread has exploded to 13 pages, and more stupid people defending the abusers.

Grow up and take responsibility for your **** behavior.

[Tool Box]

I didn't read the whole thread but I'm gonna go ahead and say banning for suicide is complete bull because of one reason. If I am at the end of a match a little high on heat and have a high alpha but if I fire to kill an opponent and end up dieing to clutch a match then it is completely wrong to ban someone for suicide. Banning for suicide can't happen because of accidental suicides basically.
Edit: I tend to do this a lot to try to one last kill before I die. Again even though this means I am suiciding it really just shows that banning for suicide is way to subjective for pgi to take the time to figure out who to ban and who is being beneficial to their team. PGI's time is better spent doing other things.

Edited by Tool Box, 22 September 2015 - 08:33 AM.

[Damien Tokala]

They're referring to those who intentionally suicide at the start of every match.

Combat induced heat suicide does not apply

[Davers]

Ghogiel, on 21 September 2015 - 05:26 PM, said:

lol salty over people DCing in ****** pug matches.

Unless both teams are running 12 man premades, every match is a pug match.

[TWIAFU]

PyckenZot, on 22 September 2015 - 05:46 AM, said:

What is wrong with this world?

TWIAFU

The
World
Is
All
F'd
Up

[xMintaka]

Darth Bane001, on 22 September 2015 - 01:09 AM, said:

lol if your life is hurt from this then...you need serious help.

Way to completely miss the point. Congratulations.

[Mystere]

Tool Box, on 22 September 2015 - 08:27 AM, said:

I didn't read the whole thread but I'm gonna go ahead and say banning for suicide is complete bull because of one reason. If I am at the end of a match a little high on heat and have a high alpha but if I fire to kill an opponent and end up dieing to clutch a match then it is completely wrong to ban someone for suicide. Banning for suicide can't happen because of accidental suicides basically.
Edit: I tend to do this a lot to try to one last kill before I die. Again even though this means I am suiciding it really just shows that banning for suicide is way to subjective for pgi to take the time to figure out who to ban and who is being beneficial to their team. PGI's time is better spent doing other things.

I am sure suicide at end of match is not what people are talking about.

[Novakaine]

[Mystere]

Novakaine, on 22 September 2015 - 08:43 AM, said:

Edited by Mystere, 22 September 2015 - 08:45 AM.

[Ghogiel]

Davers, on 22 September 2015 - 08:31 AM, said:

Unless both teams are running 12 man premades, every match is a pug match.

and QQing over DCs in them lol

[Tool Box]

Unpopular opinion, but I guess I'm just saying that I think players should deal with it and devs should focus on content since this game is pretty small. I DO think repeat offenders in the extreme should be suspended/banned.

Edited by Tool Box, 22 September 2015 - 08:54 AM.

[crashlogic]

TWIAFU, on 22 September 2015 - 04:06 AM, said:

So, it's not "MY" fault I cheated, PGI made me.

Got it.

Good luck with that.

It's not about denying the disconnections responsibility for their actions, it's about holding PGI accountable for the tournament. I am not saying the DC crowd should be excused, I am saying PGI has unlcelan hands in this and should not punish them with banning or suspension. I have always been in favor of a warning, which would serve to justify a ban on a subsequent offense.
PGI was aware of the problem, PGI could have prevented the problem, PGI failed to prevent the problem, this we should focus our rage on PGI. The argument against my position, if I can sift through the histrionics and personal attacks is that criminal should be punished for their wrongdoing. This is true, but my argument is that when the cops are corrupt they should not be doing the punishing. PGI allowed this to happen when they could have prevented it. The moral responsibility is not at question, the apporiate level of punishment is. I think we need to be more lenient in this case, due to the circumstances of the broken event. That's all. I'm not defending any DCer I am trying to focus the issue at its cause, which was the flawed event. The forest is PGI, the individual dis connectors are simply the trees in my opinion.
Suspending or banning them accomplishes nothing...they are not going to suddenly learn to be less greedy, or reform their behavior due to any suspension. However PGI can be pressured into formulating better responses to their shortsightedness. I simply disagree with the op that the punish,net should be suspensions or banning.

[f0urt3]

I really don't want to get involved in the argument here. Reading the arguments was amusing for about the first 2 posts, then it got old. I would like to share my opinion, though: in short, I think both the players and PGI are in the wrong.

The players should not be disconnecting, suiciding or engaging in behavior with the intent of terminating their game early. Even beyond some formal code of conduct, it's just good sportsmanship. Some people, evidently, were never taught that.

PGI created conditions overwhelmingly likely to cause the above-mentioned behavior and, for that, they share the blame. The map rotation is a joke (it took me days to get Manifold and Mining) and without a way to combat that deficiency, say a way to choose a map, farming is going to happen. At least in the Oceanic event, there is an option to choose the type of game you wanted to play. Thus, when the tournament requirement was X assault games, players were able to disable other game modes and there was no farming issue. There was no such option here to the detriment of the tournament.

I don't believe in complaining without proposing a solution so here goes. I believe PGI let down their loyal followers and, for that, they need to perform some "service recovery." That is, I believe they need to give the players that played according to the terms rewards beyond what is posted in the tournament rules, possibly bumping everyone up a level or more. I haven't really given it much thought. They need to admit to the problems, and provide some compensation for the frustration.

I sympathize with PGIs position, however. They have a game with a relatively small installed base. They do not want to risk losing players. Plus, it is inappropriate to change the terms of the competition after the fact. Thus, I recommend that they provide the agreed-upon rewards, and nothing more, to those who were involved in suicide, disconnects, and who otherwise intentionally caused their game to end early. In the future, however, they should have penalties for such behavior written in the rules of the contest.

If you disagree, please don't try to argue. I'm not going to spend more time on this than I already have. My message is more for PGI than anyone else.

Dave

[MechWarrior5152251]

riverslq, on 21 September 2015 - 03:11 PM, said:

I'm not trying to be an ass here, i probably missed it.
where did they post that suicides and dc were against the rules?

The OP "wishes" this would happen. He probably took some throw away comment from Rus as a statement of such. Most of the pug players are so bad that I doubt the few people hiding had any effect on the OPs scores....

[Zuesacoatl]

lol, is it a coincidence that some of the people defending the dc'rs are some of the ones I seen dc in game lmfao....

[Damien Tokala]

and some #$%T@#$ moderator decides to Ktown a valid discussion. good job, keep up that censorship quota!