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[sycocys]

Not really, I've been leveling mechs for months except the odd runs in some of the events. This last event combined with leveling mechs made for some nice 20+ strings of losses with fools bailing out of matches left an right.

[zagibu]

Nope, not surprised, Tier 3 as expected.

[Karl Streiger]

Not surprised - based on the knowledge that PSR is calculatet - Tier4 + Games since January - i was certain that it would be Tier4.
Not enough games to fall - not enough games to rise - although its still almost Tier3

[Doman Hugin]

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Having so much weight placed on the team win/loss simply does not reflect personal skill rating. Team win/loss should have nil effect on your PSR. It is possible to have the third highest match score over all 24 players yet not go up if you happen to be on the losing team. How, exactly, does that reflect personal skill?

Cant agree with this, if you play well as part of the team you can effect wether you win or loose, if you still loose you've probably still got a good score and won't go down. If you play well but don't support the team it's more random if you win or loose.

Edited by Doman Hugin, 23 September 2015 - 02:57 AM.

[JustEvil]

Am I surprised? Damn! Of course I am! I'm running mixed builds on all of my mechs. I hate gauss rifles. I own all Orions except Protector, running mixed on every one of them (I love M with rapid firing AC20). And... I am Tier 2. Like, what the hell?!

Edited by JustEvil, 23 September 2015 - 03:00 AM.

[Random Carnage]

Doman Hugin, on 23 September 2015 - 02:56 AM, said:

Cant agree with this, if you play well as part of the team you can effect wether you win or loose, if you still loose you've probably still got a good score and won't go down. If you play well but don't support the team it's more random if you win or loose.

Yep, I don't disagree. My point is that the "P" in "PSR" is meant to be personal - so why should team fail drag a good pilot down? More to the point, even if you don't drop a notch, why should a dropkick on the winning side that got carried all the way and managed to scrape through doing 90 damage, 1 assist, no kills and dieing in the process, get the same award as a pilot on the losing team that kets a kill, several assists, 600 odd damage and lives?

Those are RL examples btw - both were me.

Edited by Random Carnage, 23 September 2015 - 03:05 AM.

[RockmachinE]

Tier 2.

As expected. I'm good, but I don't care how I preform, I play to have fun mostly, often times try precarious maneuvers, pick fights with enemies I'm certain to lose and rarely care about the outcome of the match, my K/D or score.

[MechWarrior3671771]

"It is not clear to me what they understand as a good match... I mean, if I pilot a light and make 200 damage did I screwed up or did well?"

PSR is based on match score which is heavily biased in favor of damage done. So if you are a light pilot invested in a scout or conquest capping role (vice brawling with FS and ACH) you will have a low match score even if you did your job well.

It *may* be something PGI has to look at in the future, as most of my games are full of light pilots that have artificially low PSRs and they are just stomping less skilled heavy/assault pilots who's PSRs are only equivalent because they do more damage per alpha. Not that I mind

Edited by Fenrisulvyn, 23 September 2015 - 03:22 AM.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

i dont believe PSR is dependable on damage. with assaults im doing 600-800. T5 bro.

[Sarlic]

Titannium, on 23 September 2015 - 03:31 AM, said:

i dont believe PSR is dependable on damage. with assaults im doing 600-800. T5 bro.

Just had a match with 11 assists, no kills and 300+ damage in a basic Orion. With a team-win. My PSR is green.
But 400 damage in the same very Orion, 9 assists and no kills my PSR is =. But no win.

Funky.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

i alrdy write it in global PSR thread.

ACH 200 damage gave me greenlight, while 400 damage in MAL-R gave me red.

Anyone knows why ?

[TWIAFU]

Joseph Mallan, on 23 September 2015 - 01:28 AM, said:

I'm Tier 4... Didn't notice the power bar. So I don't know if I'm at the low end or what till I get back home today. I knew I was average or a bit below that, so no I'm not surprised.

Well if you are looking for glory sure.

Morning Joe.

I was hoping to be mid-T3 to upper T3, long shot being T2. Realistically, figured I would be low to mid T3. Turns out, was low T3, and after some wonderful pugtard experiences, now flip flopping tween T4 and T3.

However, did get some good numbers on what some thresholds are for Win/Loss and PSR movement.

Now, to raise PSR the best way possible in the least frustrating and anger inducing way is a two word solution; Group Queue.

[TWIAFU]

Titannium, on 23 September 2015 - 03:31 AM, said:

i dont believe PSR is dependable on damage. with assaults im doing 600-800. T5 bro.

PSR is determined by how well you preform as part of a TEAM.

Only part is determined by damage, rest is from how you do as a member of a team.

There is little to no teamwork in Solo queue.

Titannium, on 23 September 2015 - 03:37 AM, said:

i alrdy write it in global PSR thread.

ACH 200 damage gave me greenlight, while 400 damage in MAL-R gave me red.

Anyone knows why ?

One is a win one is a loss?

[Speedy Plysitkos]

TWIAFU, on 23 September 2015 - 03:59 AM, said:

PSR is determined by how well you preform as part of a TEAM.

Only part is determined by damage, rest is from how you do as a member of a team.

There is little to no teamwork in Solo queue.



One is a win one is a loss?

twiafu, dont tell me, there is difference, how system benefits you, from solo and group play. Im playing solo only so far.

yesterday 10 games, 7 green, 3 red.
What exactly is TEAM play score ? In pug, people spread out always.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

TWIAFU, on 23 September 2015 - 03:59 AM, said:

One is a win one is a loss?

both loss, both 0 kills.

[Red Shrike]

MechWarrior5152251, on 22 September 2015 - 07:08 PM, said:

For people who do not know what Tier 5 looks like.

Looks like an average match to me.

[Doman Hugin]

Actual score might be meaningless, for all we know it might as simlpe as:

Match score - Win - Loss
1st - up - up
2nd - up - up
3rd - up - up
4th - up - =
5th - up - =
6th - up - =
7th - = - down
8th - = - down
9th - = - down
10th - down - down
11th - down - down
12th - down - down

Edited by Doman Hugin, 23 September 2015 - 04:27 AM.

[TWIAFU]

Titannium, on 23 September 2015 - 04:11 AM, said:

both loss, both 0 kills.

Your going to have to provide better info.

Match score, kill, assists, win/loss, and damage. With out important info, nothing can be known.

Since I can go up with a loss and 300 match score, i think your information is faulty - no offense - it just not match ANY data.

[xXBagheeraXx]

not too suprised. I'm joe average. Properly positioned I can do gobs of damage in my fatties, I know how to roll damage and am a pretty decent shot with 2 gauss rifles. I have my blow out games. I run still non meta mechs and fail miserably all the time but have fun doing it...bit on the shallow end of a tier 3 but it sounds about right for me.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

TWIAFU, on 23 September 2015 - 04:37 AM, said:

Your going to have to provide better info.

Match score, kill, assists, win/loss, and damage. With out important info, nothing can be known.

Since I can go up with a loss and 300 match score, i think your information is faulty - no offense - it just not match ANY data.

k next time i create screens.