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[Khobai]

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so far best success has been my CRB-27b.

250std, 1 LPL, 5 ML.

wow thats a really original build. glad to see someone isnt doing what everyone else is.

[Bishop Steiner]

Edweird, on 06 October 2015 - 10:06 PM, said:

I thought that it was either the 350XL or 6E hardpoint models that were going to be the best.
I mean, yeah, JJs are nice and this mech needs all the mobility and positioning it can get (think Sparky and Quickdraw again...) but JJs are often more of a gimmick than a necessary thing.

and after running about in my rewards Cicada, these JJs feel anemic, anyhow. I think my Summoner is a better jumper.

Khobai, on 06 October 2015 - 10:08 PM, said:

wow thats a really original build. glad to see someone isnt doing what everyone else is.

glad to see you think I care about your opinion?

Oh wait...I still don't.

[Khobai]

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glad to see you think I care about your opinion?

Oh wait...I still don't.

just found it ironic that the guy that always complains about meta builds is playing them lol.

[STEF_]

Bishop Steiner, on 06 October 2015 - 10:02 PM, said:

Still, having more fun with the Crab than expected...and not with the model I expected. Though I'd be running the 27SL, but it's the 27B that is getting all the funsies. Might be the first LaserVomit Medium I like.

I want to try out your STD build with the next crab.

Untill now I had piloted the 6mpl with 300xl (because not even basiced, but since it's quite fresh, I think that once elited a bigger engine will give even me more fun), high risk high reward.
Then I plan to pilot something like 2lpl+3ml.
I want to try the 3lpl, too; it should be boring but effective.

[Bishop Steiner]

Khobai, on 06 October 2015 - 10:18 PM, said:

just found it ironic that the guy that always complains about meta builds is playing them lol.

cool. And what am I supposed to run on it? 3 PPC? 6 SPL?

Also, might want to learn what is Meta....which I am pretty sure the Crab will never be. (And if there was one, it would probably be 6 MPL or 3x LPL)

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 06 October 2015 - 10:23 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Stefka Kerensky, on 06 October 2015 - 10:21 PM, said:

I want to try out your STD build with the next crab.

Untill now I had piloted the 6mpl with 300xl (because not even basiced, but since it's quite fresh, I think that once elited a bigger engine will give even me more fun), high risk high reward.
Then I plan to pilot something like 2lpl+3ml.
I want to try the 3lpl, too; it should be boring but effective.

careful..... it's the meta build apparently... despite having not encountered another such one all night, yet. Criminal I'm running laser vomit on it, I guess I should swap in an LB-X or something.....oh wait......

In all seriousness, it seems to pack a decent punch, and is decently heat sustainable. I literally drew Caustic all 6 times I dropped in it.... and was able to control my heat for the most part.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 06 October 2015 - 10:26 PM.

[EX S]

Edweird, on 06 October 2015 - 09:38 PM, said:

... I'm still working on a XL350 build because GOTTA GO FAST...

You've probably already considered this one, but I still feel it's worth suggesting. CRB-20

[Bloody]

pretty easy to tell who the XL crabs are and you just aim for a ST or arms and one average 40-50 point alpha and he is cooked

just the worst example of this chassis sucks, got put into Alpine peaks and could not do any damage without being smashed by high point laser vomit fire. worst was seeing enemy storm crows with Clan ERLL just picking you off at 700 meters away peaking.

Edited by Bloody, 06 October 2015 - 10:41 PM.

[Myke Pantera]

I honestly think both are viable. With XLs you can go fast with good firepower, and while you gotta be careful it has it's merits. You need to withstand the urge to torsotwist though...

On the other hand, the rather easy to hit STs give you great Zombie capabilities since 3 of them crabs have 3 energy hardpoints in CT/HD and you can easily sacrifice a ST by torso twisting.

From a competitive perspective (which i have no clue about) it's probably STD...

Edited by Myke Pantera, 06 October 2015 - 10:59 PM.

[Wintersdark]

Dunno. I don't have Crabs, but I think the XL is fine if you stay highly mobile, are very careful about how you twist, and play like a striker. Small size, decent speed contribute well in that way.

It's definitely a specific play style that isn't for everyone though.

The problem I have with the standard Crabs is they don't pack enough offensive power to make up for the lower speed and inherent fragility of a 50 tonner.

The others - hunchbacks, cents, pack so much more firepower via quirks that they can roll standard with fewer, heavily enhanced guns and bring XL equivalent firepower without the XL.

Just my two bits, and based off very little actual experience... And none piloting one, to be fair.

[STEF_]

Myke Pantera, on 06 October 2015 - 10:30 PM, said:

I honestly think both a viable. With XLs you can go fast with good firepower, and while you gotta be careful it has it's merits. You need to withstand the urge to torsotwist though...

On the other hand, the rather easy to hit STs give you great Zombie capabilities since 3 of them crabs have 3 energy hardpoints in CT/HD and you can easily sacrifice a ST by torso twisting.

From a competitive perspective (which i have no clue about) it's probably STD...

^^ 100%

Both STD and XL viability "unlock" a lot of possible builds and gamestyles.
This is the main reason why I like Crabs very much atm.

[MrEdweird]

I see what you mean, but a XL300 gets you over 100kp/h, which I would not call slow for a 50 tonner.
It's an opportunistic mech that can hold its own.

Things will shift around significantly once weapon quirks are out the window, this mech has a high enough alpha to make your target worry but not to overpower them. You fire, you move, you fire, you move.

If the brawlers have the line, you go at an angle and focus down components. It's easy to do, i managed a 800dmg round on the stock resistance variant without basics - it's a very usable mech that just doesn't care about any meta crap because of it's nature as a striker/skirmisher.

Also for jumpycada I found that 3ML 1ERPPC XL300 4JJ works quite well.
Anything above XL300 is wasted tonnage on the Cicada.
Besides, with speed tweak you get 133.7kph...

Though tbh I like it when people run XL320s in CDAs because that's roughly 88mph...

Edited by Edweird, 06 October 2015 - 10:51 PM.

[STEF_]

Wintersdark, on 06 October 2015 - 10:34 PM, said:

The problem I have with the standard Crabs is they don't pack enough offensive power to make up for the lower speed and inherent fragility of a 50 tonner.

For instance this one reminds me the classic 3erLLShadowhawk.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...2c03be78e864f78

While the shadowhawk has high mounted hardpoints, the crab is very tiny at 600-700 metres and have SDT, so it's more durable.

[Sigilum Sanctum]

Burktross, on 06 October 2015 - 04:01 PM, said:

This will never not be funny.

Crabs are so adorable and small. I almost hate shooting them to ribbons.

[lshtaria]

Khobai, on 06 October 2015 - 10:18 PM, said:

just found it ironic that the guy that always complains about meta builds is playing them lol.

Difference is Bishop is using that build, not because he MUST conform to the meta of the T1 overlords, but because he simply wants to and it suits him.

Besides, I'm not really sure you can call any Crab build meta seeing as the ONLY thing you can do with it is vomit.

[Khobai]

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Besides, I'm not really sure you can call any Crab build meta seeing as the ONLY thing you can do with it is vomit.

uh what

thats like saying a stalker 4N isnt a meta build because all you can do with it is vomit

[RoboPatton]

I have XL-Crabs.

[White Bear 84]

Given the variants are so similar I would suggest trying out one variant with XL. Currently running a 3mpl 3ml build and a 3 erll build both go around 100k with engines close to 300, have some good matches in them, but yeah side torsos feel a bit squishy, which in some ways is nice since the crab does not suffer from the dragon torso problem.. ..still would love to try a cheesy flanker xl std crab.

Edited by White Bear 84, 06 October 2015 - 11:40 PM.

[Whatzituyah]

I like how alot of people misconstrued the thread its very funny! Also I kinda see how a crab can be a little meta I think all it lacks is the actuators to move its arms left and right but that wouldn't matter with a big engine because your twist speed also increases "From personal experience trying it on the King Crab with an XL didnt go so well"

[Speedy Plysitkos]

go to hell with crab-meta. id like to know, as i dont like peekabostyle, how to create nice crabie with std engine, that can be support to assaults.