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[MysticLink]

If people have more c-bills, won't they spend more MC on mechbays (because they want to buy mechs) and then also patterns (mc), and then more MC on hero versions on this mechs.

So why make it so hard to earn a lot of c-billls?

This way people just play the mechs they have and don't bother getting a hero for example as they don't have the c-bills to buy the other two to elite them.

Is PGI actually having people spend more MC by reducing the c-bills or not?

I don't know. They have the stats.

It will also generate more people to play the game instead of hearing how hard it is to earn c-bills.

[His Holiness Pope Buster]

MysticLink, on 09 October 2015 - 03:39 PM, said:

If people have more c-bills, won't they spend more MC on mechbays (because they want to buy mechs) and then also patterns (mc), and then more MC on hero versions on this mechs.

So why make it so hard to earn a lot of c-billls?

This way people just play the mechs they have and don't bother getting a hero for example as they don't have the c-bills to buy the other two to elite them.

Is PGI actually having people spend more MC by reducing the c-bills or not?

I don't know. They have the stats.

It will also generate more people to play the game instead of hearing how hard it is to earn c-bills.

I don't think its hard to earn CBILLS. What are you averaging per match?

[RoboPatton]

The "Business model" is sell nostalgia to the dad-whales, and clams to the meta-crowd.

[MysticLink]

Buster Highman, on 09 October 2015 - 03:44 PM, said:

I don't think its hard to earn CBILLS. What are you averaging per match?

123,313.38

Edited by MysticLink, 09 October 2015 - 03:51 PM.

[His Holiness Pope Buster]

MysticLink, on 09 October 2015 - 03:51 PM, said:

123,313.38

Hmmmmm. I guess it would take a while to save 20 mil.

[wanderer]

The business model is to make things as annoying as possible so you'll buy MC, preferably for anything and everything. It's F2P, pay2easier.

Also, buy our robots. Lots of them. That's where the money is made.

[MysticLink]

Buster Highman, on 09 October 2015 - 03:55 PM, said:

Hmmmmm. I guess it would take a while to save 20 mil.

Yes. In the start of the game, I would buy more mechs, hence more mechbays, and also more hero mechs, hence would buy a lot of mc. But now I feel like it takes too long. I feel more hesitant to buy a mech and more hesitant to buy mc.

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

A large portion of the in-game business model feels like legacy stuff from their time under IGP's thumb. I think it's long past time for PGI to perform something of an overhaul, including price reductions in many areas, as well as boosted c-bill earnings (preferably at least in part due to further behavior rewards for non-damage positive contributions (tanking well, capturing, etc.).

The mech packs are pretty decent as they stand, especially since they began throwing in so many extras, making them a reasonably good deal (with payment for upgrades to vanity packs adding a bit of a premium on top).

[Monkey Lover]

If cbills were easy to get premium time would be worthlessm. Cbill increase on hero mechs would be worthless. They would have to make all thier money off mechbays haha

[FupDup]

Only the Paulconomist himself can understand the Paulconomy that he/it has unleashed upon us.

[MoonUnitBeta]

Not exactly sure there is a business model, outside of selling mech packs and weekend sales.

[Ex Atlas Overlord]

Monkey Lover, on 09 October 2015 - 04:06 PM, said:

If cbills were easy to get premium time would be worthlessm. Cbill increase on hero mechs would be worthless. They would have to make all thier money off mechbays haha

In no way is this true. In fact it would make it MORE valuable b/c the 50% bonus would actually grant you a larger amount of cbills than currently.

Would it tempt the guys that have been playing since beta and have 200 mechs? Maybe, Maybe not.

Would it tempt the new plays? It's virtually guaranteed.

I know it would tempt me....but right now it's not worth 15 dollars a month for an extra 40-50k a match. That's just insulting.

Edited by The Atlas Overlord, 09 October 2015 - 04:23 PM.

[FupDup]

Monkey Lover, on 09 October 2015 - 04:06 PM, said:

If cbills were easy to get premium time would be worthlessm. Cbill increase on hero mechs would be worthless. They would have to make all thier money off mechbays haha

If the boosts from Premium and Heroes were much higher I might be able to understand that choice between grinding or paying. Part of the problem is that in MWO, you still have to grind even if you do pay.

Edited by FupDup, 09 October 2015 - 04:24 PM.

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

Monkey Lover, on 09 October 2015 - 04:06 PM, said:

If cbills were easy to get premium time would be worthlessm. Cbill increase on hero mechs would be worthless. They would have to make all thier money off mechbays haha

Those bonuses are all % based. Higher earnings lead to higher bonuses.

More, increasing the bonuses (say, 100% from PT and 50% from Hero mechs) would also make them more attractive, again scaling with base pay levels.

[oldradagast]

Let me put it to you this way: the amount of time it takes to grind out new mechs is so bad that it's barely worth buying them anymore. Heck, it's not even the money, but in a game that pays out low hundreds of XP for a dismal loss, then look at the amount of XP it takes to level THREE variants, and it's a slog... and the mechs play poorly until leveled. A business model that DISCOURAGES players from buying new mechs is a poor one.

[Johnny Z]

Have to take into account the achievement earning, rank earnings, newbie cadet bonus, and now the tutorial earnings. Last of all the match earnings. Maybe something else is to be added?

But ya the business model of selling mass amount of mechs is wearing thin to say the least. Hopefully other premium content will be added as well some for c-bills content.

[StraferX]

Just wait until we get to steam. You will see exclusive steam packs that we already have but include 1 awesome unseen mec that can not be purchased separately.

Since 2012 I have said that inorder to make more money they need to grow the player base. How does one grow that base? Create more viable playable content IE: maps, a CW that is not just a bunch of bottlenecks and meaningless mode. I honestly think the survival of this game depends on opening at the minimal the mapping aspect.

[Scar Glamour]

The business model is quite simple, I reckon.

1) You don't have enough c-bills for mech and don't like grinding c-bills to death -> you go spend your real money on individual mechs, mech packs, mastery packs and so and so forth. Beats measly 300 mc for a mechbay any time of the day.

2) You want to play new and potentially unbalanced mechs and kick ass while they are still OP? You preorder with real money and have your fun while it lasts. A gamble just like in any other F2P game.

Meager c-bill earnings and rapacious module costs fit in quite nicely.

[RoboPatton]

StraferX, on 09 October 2015 - 06:31 PM, said:

Just wait until we get to steam. You will see exclusive steam packs that we already have but include 1 awesome unseen mec that can not be purchased separately.

I suspect something like this too... especially since they need to give out a fair amount of content (for pgi, that's mechs) for players to have enough diversity to keep things fresh. One or two starter mechs with Paulconomy in effect... not going to keep players around for very long imo.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

milk the whales