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[Brollocks]

After upgrading my rig and now running everything on max at 80-120 fps depending on map, I have been playing atrociously. Either I'm still being awestruck with the new beauty of the game or I find it difficult to see enemy 'mechs with all the shadows and explosions everywhere. I don't even feel like playing now, because I'm now just some noob who dies too quickly without doing half of what I was before. Why should I be forced to turn everything down to play competitively?

[Kira Onime]

Allot of the top players reduce their game settings since the new maps do nothing to help you see something.

[STEF_]

Muddy Funster, on 24 October 2015 - 06:15 AM, said:

After upgrading my rig and now running everything on max at 80-120 fps depending on map, I have been playing atrociously. Either I'm still being awestruck with the new beauty of the game or I find it difficult to see enemy 'mechs with all the shadows and explosions everywhere. I don't even feel like playing now, because I'm now just some noob who dies too quickly without doing half of what I was before. Why should I be forced to turn everything down to play competitively?

Nope.
Turn all to low except obj.details and texture to high/max

[Dunereaper]

What? Do you want them to downgrade the game to wireframes just for you. This argument makes no sense.

[Mister Blastman]

Kira Onime, on 24 October 2015 - 06:18 AM, said:

Allot of the top players reduce their game settings since the new maps do nothing to help you see something.

Sad but true. PGI should just lock the settings and force everyone to deal with whatever they think the game should look like.

[Kira Onime]

Mister Blastman, on 24 October 2015 - 06:20 AM, said:

Sad but true. PGI should just lock the settings and force everyone to deal with whatever they think the game should look like.

Hard to do that since you can override some settings with the user.cfg.

[Neput Z34]

You may also want to turn up brightens or gamma in the in game settings to 0.55 ~ 0.6 depending on your computer screen.

Also highly recommended to adjust your build in (hardware) monitor settings, like brightness, gamma, contrast, color temp, etc.

[Kjudoon]

The game is beautiful. Unfortunately there is a tactical advantage to downgrading almost every part of it that makes it beautiful even if you can run it at max. By killing effects, environment and particles and to another extent post processing and anti-aliasing, you get a small tactical advantage and visualization "buff". This is also why a lot of top players I know run in thermal vision mode when they start closing with the enemy. Even though it's not "blueman warrior" of yore, it's still a good way to strip away all distractions, color and depth that can cause you to target improperly.

This is also why I am happy to play at low tiers. I can play it with all the pretty features turned on that my system can handle (High across the board on most maps) and still get 30-50fps and not worry about the people so gung ho for winning that they play in this manner. That's Tier 1/2 thinking. If that's the way you want to play, go and do it. You'll get there soon enough once you adopt meta tactics and builds.

I'd rather have a beautiful experience... as my videos show.

[Mister Blastman]

Kira Onime, on 24 October 2015 - 06:26 AM, said:

Hard to do that since you can override some settings with the user.cfg.

They can disable that feature.

[Kira Onime]

Mister Blastman, on 24 October 2015 - 06:40 AM, said:

They can disable that feature.

Still, locking in graphics options is a terribad idea.

Might as well play on a console at that point.

[Bishop Steiner]

Kira Onime, on 24 October 2015 - 06:26 AM, said:

Hard to do that since you can override some settings with the user.cfg.

Because PGI allied us access to that. They could also lock it (like they did with FoV, etc, now), and declare tampering with it a breech of CoC.

Then everyone had the same visual limitations, and no competitive edge

But we all know comps love crutches.

Use any excuse to simplify the games so they can make it as generic a point and click shooter as possible

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 24 October 2015 - 06:50 AM.

[Monkey Lover]

Just wait for the ecm balance everyone will be in a red box soon and its not going to matter if you can see them. Just shoot at the red box.

Edited by Monkey Lover, 24 October 2015 - 07:05 AM.

[Ultimax]

Mister Blastman, on 24 October 2015 - 06:20 AM, said:

Sad but true. PGI should just lock the settings and force everyone to deal with whatever they think the game should look like.

LOL, good luck with that one.

Do you know how many people play games like this on their potato getting 10 FPS?


Whether you have a high end rig or play on a potato, you still have a wallet.


And that's all they ultimately care about.

Edited by Ultimatum X, 24 October 2015 - 07:07 AM.

[Kira Onime]

Bishop Steiner, on 24 October 2015 - 06:48 AM, said:

Because PGI allied us access to that. They could also lock it (like they did with FoV, etc, now), and declare tampering with it a breech of CoC.

Then everyone had the same visual limitations, and no competitive edge

But we all know comps love crutches.

Use any excuse to simplify the games so they can make it as generic a point and click shooter as possible

You seem to forget those running on not-so-optimal machines that need to lower their settings to be able to play.
Also locked graphics options on a PC game? Yeah, it's gona get torn a new one for it.

[Mister Blastman]

Kira Onime, on 24 October 2015 - 06:47 AM, said:

Still, locking in graphics options is a terribad idea.

Might as well play on a console at that point.

Not if we want to enjoy how things look. Sometimes folks must be force fed the bitter creme to get them to drink it.

Ultimatum X, on 24 October 2015 - 07:06 AM, said:

LOL, good luck with that one.

Do you know how many people play games like this on their potato getting 10 FPS?


Whether you have a high end rig or play on a potato, you still have a wallet.


And that's all they ultimately care about.

It is simple--tell people it isn't for a potato. The iron fist is strangely effective. I doubt people will not play this game because it does not work on their potato. The playerbase, as small as it is, most likely is not full of filthy casuals with 80386 computers.

(though I have some in my basement I retrogame on)

[Brollocks]

Kjudoon, on 24 October 2015 - 06:40 AM, said:

This is also why I am happy to play at low tiers.

I'd rather be in low tiers too, I hate the over abundance of crutch mechs in the upper tiers. But I'm proof tiers mean nothing anyway. Playing MWO less than 3 months and now almost half way to tier 1, with no clan mechs in my stable and play plenty of fun builds, unless my purpose is farming cbills for new mechs to level. But I still want to have fun and do as well as I can, and being vision impaired by the game itself makes having fun and doing well a lot more difficult.

Being hit by a barrage of AC's with graphics down is bad enough with the screen shake. Try it with everything up and you can't see a thing except explosions.

Dunereaper, on 24 October 2015 - 06:19 AM, said:

What? Do you want them to downgrade the game to wireframes just for you. This argument makes no sense.

I think you are the only poster in this topic who didn't make much sense.

Neput Z34, on 24 October 2015 - 06:27 AM, said:

You may also want to turn up brightens or gamma in the in game settings to 0.55 ~ 0.6 depending on your computer screen.

Also highly recommended to adjust your build in (hardware) monitor settings, like brightness, gamma, contrast, color temp, etc.

Thanks. I've fiddled with the settings in MWO and on the screen and it looks a bit better now.. Will give it a whirl tomorrow and hope I play a bit better. I play on a samsung 40 inch 1080 tv, so it's probably not as crisp and the colours won't be as good as a quality pc monitor, so that is probably making it worse.

[Ultimax]

Mister Blastman, on 24 October 2015 - 07:10 AM, said:

It is simple--tell people it isn't for a potato. The iron fist is strangely effective.

You are literally talking out of your bum bum at this point bud.

This game is F2P, it's balanced around the lowest common denominator.

[Kira Onime]

Mister Blastman, on 24 October 2015 - 07:10 AM, said:

Not if we want to enjoy how things look. Sometimes folks must be force fed the bitter creme to get them to drink it.

Are you seriously reading what you're saying?
You're talking about "force graphics" on a system that has one if it's main features be "customizable graphics".

Games on PC that have lackluster graphics options get torn apart for doing so.

Also "enjoy how things looks". I do not enjoy what the new maps look like on ultra high graphics settings. I do however enjoy them on the lower end of the settings since they aren't so hard on my rig. Who do you think you are to tell me what I do or do not enjoy?

[Bishop Steiner]

Kira Onime, on 24 October 2015 - 07:07 AM, said:

You seem to forget those running on not-so-optimal machines that need to lower their settings to be able to play.
Also locked graphics options on a PC game? Yeah, it's gona get torn a new one for it.

Not at all. One can reduce graphics without removing all particle effects and such.

But I'm sure most competitive players are running this game on potatoes, so are reducing graphics out of necessity, amirite

[Aiden Skye]

Its funny. People complain the game doesn't look good enough. Ok. PGI redoes old maps added tons more detail.
People strip down graphics so the game looks like garbage anyway. Gap widens between min maxers. Glad I'm not a PC game designer these days.