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[fat4eyes]

k05h3lk1n, on 29 October 2015 - 11:04 AM, said:

Ha! Nicely done. I hope it increases tactical awareness. But all things tactical in a PUG group are always bound to have a high risk to fail against a more static play because less coordination, people don't know their place and role etc.

While its true that PUGs have less coordination than tight-knit groups, I think us PUGs are smarter than most people give us credit for. What a lot of new players lack is awareness and pattern recognition. A new guy doesn't realize what being too spread out means until they get beaten. Or that the team's fast mechs going off to the side isn't necessarily abandoning them, but are trying a flanking maneuver and could use support when the battle is joined.

A big part of the reason I'm making these comics is for players to learn these skills faster, so I can have more fun games. I play solo queue most of the time myself, and I see all these maneuvers done all the time with relatively little coordination.

Edit: I'm a PUG too.

Edited by fat4eyes, 29 October 2015 - 01:32 PM.

[Sylonce]

Well done with the comics. I had a good chuckle.

[Roughneck45]

Nice stuff, too funny hahahahah

[Mirkk Defwode]

Passed this along to a few friends that were new players and haven't fully learned the game yet.

[Bluttrunken]

fat4eyes, on 29 October 2015 - 12:11 PM, said:

While its true that PUGs have less coordination than tight-knit groups, I think us PUGs are smarter than most people give us credit for.

I didn't want to say pug players are bad or not smart or whatever but even the most coordinated pug(within their possibilties) will not achieve the same result like a team which plays together regularly and is completely linked in com and, in the worst case, has a very specific mech setup with fixed roles for each and everyone. A pug can never achieve what a good team can do, no matter if we use ingame Voip like good, little boys or listening to whoever thinks he's got a plan. Some people might not pay attention, or listen to music or understand the orders wrong and sometimes the mechs in the team just don't fit together(do you know how it feels to be one of a handful of brawlers in a laservomiting team? or vice versa? you know how it is when 90% of your team runs at 90kph but your fat butt manages barely 60 kph? do you know how it is to LRM without spotters and a team which intelligently places UAVs? did you ever play a long range or night engagement without ecm while seemingly half of the enemy team is using it?)

Edited by k05h3lk1n, 29 October 2015 - 03:25 PM.

[Xannatharr]

Excellent post and thread, thank you!

[fat4eyes]

2 new comics!

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Situational awareness is knowing what's happening around you and your mech. I usually don't have long explanations for a comic but I feel I need to for this one.

• Newbie: Only knows about the target he's shooting at. He doesn't notice he's being shot from behind until he's dead.
  
• Padawan: Does notice he's being shot in the back, but only after he's lost all his rear armor and is warned of critical central torso damage. He then turns around to look behind him but now opens his rear to his previous target. He tries to chase down the light, even though he is unlikely to catch it.
  
• Jedi: Immediately notices he's being shot in the back. Goes into cover as he looks behind him. Sees that he was being shot by a light, and knowing that his mech can't catch it, just fires at the enemy from his position.
  
• Jedi Master: Does everything the Jedi does. In addition, he also alerts his team so teammates that are better equipped to deal with the enemy light can do so.

Situational awareness is a pretty big topic. If you want to know more about it you can look at Asmudius Heng's excellent video.

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If you don't want to accidentally get shot by your teammates, don't move in front of them when they're engaged with an enemy. Not only are you blocking your teammate's shots, you're exposing yourself to the enemy.

Thanks to Sereglach for the suggestion on Friendly Fire.

Edited by fat4eyes, 30 October 2015 - 11:06 AM.

[Wildstreak]

So spot on.

Need one for Assault where only 1 Light sneaks around to cap the base then 4+ go to defend it leaving the rest to get rolled by a push.

Need one for Conquest where a Light runs around capping outside 4 bases while everyone fights in the middle. Light's team gets wiped but they still win on points because no enemy countered the capping.

[kosmos1214]

love it helpful and accurate

[Airu]

These are great! Keep them coming.

[Fox With A Shotgun]

I approve of this thread wholeheartedly. Now if only it could be mandatory reading for everyone...

[fat4eyes]

Here's a new one on what to do when surrounded:

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When you're team is surrounded, usually your best bet is to find where the enemy is weakest and push hard. The enemy will try to chase you and shoot your backs so some mechs will have to act as the rear guard. These mechs must use every trick in the book, from arty strikes to good use of cover, to delay the enemy long enough for the rest of the team to break out. A breakout is a risky maneuver, but it's almost always a better option than staying surrounded.

[WrathOfDeadguy]

I love these so much. They just keep hitting the bullseye.

[Jet Black Dog]

LOL! these are AMAZING - and maybe a bit hilarious - i took a loooong break from MWo, never saw these...
great stuff, sorry i missed it last time.
Humor aside, these are - quite succint and ... just yes, YES.
I'd love to to link to this for the new player training 'reserves' regiment?

[fat4eyes]

New comic!

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When you have an advantage, USE IT.

Feel free to link to the comic, especially for training new guys. The more people who know, the better our games will be.

[Osric Lancaster]

fat4eyes, on 01 November 2015 - 02:20 PM, said:

When you have an advantage, USE IT.

Haha, fantastic. I see that every game I take a slower 'Mech into a PUG, and usually worse. You'll be fighting at an advantage when all of a sudden your lights take scared and scarper off leaving you to die. Or you'll be spotting and firing on an isolated enemy while your allies hide behind a nearby hill (or plink at some far off target) until the enemy's backup arrives.

[InspectorG]

SUGGESTION:

1.

Comic for why its a bad idea ramp-hump on Terra

or in relation,

Bottlenecks and why camping them is bads.

2.

How to 'Kite' an enemy. Literally called out to do it in a great situation and puggmates ran off to chase a cookie. A player told me to 'use words everyone understands' after we got rolled...yeah, maybe he is new to videogames.

[Fox With A Shotgun]

InspectorG, on 01 November 2015 - 03:49 PM, said:

SUGGESTION:

1.

Comic for why its a bad idea ramp-hump on Terra

or in relation,

Bottlenecks and why camping them is bads.

This has been covered indirectly in one of the comics. The one with the echelon formations.

[Prussian Havoc]

Excellent tactical primer for MWO. I will bookmark and share this link with fellow gamers that could use a nudge or four in the right tactical direction.


Thanks!

[56K Target]

haha.I love these comic.especially what the dead mech saying.

Good Job