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[Mike McSullivan]

i need only 300MC ´cause i need the third mechbay for my (Sullys) Cheetahs (still got ~190MC banked).

I will take all i can get

Edited by Mike McSullivan, 02 October 2016 - 05:01 AM.

[Virlutris]

Ih8tevictors, on 02 October 2016 - 04:51 AM, said:

Another Challenge! this one has some big MC on the line. Up to 400 MC!

check it out

http://mwomercs.com/tournaments?t=201610playdaily

Good Luck and get some MC which we all need.

Mike McSullivan, on 02 October 2016 - 04:59 AM, said:

i need only 300MC ´cause i need the third mechbay for my (Sullys) Cheetahs (still got ~190MC banked).

I will take all i can get

Quoting for truth. Those mechbays are mighty precious.

I'm banking the MC though, because I have a dream. Someday, when the Panther hero mech arrives, Amaranth Panther will be there to buy it.

It might have to wait for a 35% off sale if I haven't banked full price by MC release.

If I keep working hard, I'll be at 1,597 MC banked from f2p events after this event. That's enough for a 50% off purchase, and almost the 1,706 MC I'd need for the 35% off purchase.

That's okay, I'm patient

[Mike McSullivan]

I was lucky, back in the days, and bought the Grid Iron with Event-MC while Heroes where on a 50% sale when i remember right. Its a nice, little moneymaker

Small update:
Panthers 3xmastered
Thunderbolts 3xmastered
Hunchbacks 2x mastered +1x elited + ~12000XP
Cheetahs (only 2 in the bay), 1 basic´ed.

FW Setup: 3x TDR +1 Hunchie
Mercenary Rank 2 (forgot the ranks of others factions)

Edited by Mike McSullivan, 04 October 2016 - 06:43 AM.

[Amaranth Panther]

Ooh, I could update too:

3 mastered Panthers + an extra 9R built for scouting and an elited 10P for dakka lolz. 5 Panthers total (and of course awaiting the hero)

3 Victors mastered; 3 JR7-IICs, 1 elited, 2 basiced

Rank 2 as Merc/Davion/Marik/Liao/FRR, Rank 4 as Kurita-- it was an event week when I went Kurita, and I got semi-adopted by a cohesive group. Fitting enough, given my primary mech

Typical deck:
2 VTR + 2 PNT (I ran 1 VTR and 3 PNT as soon as I had the tonnage for a deck)

My scouting Panther is 1LPL+3MPL, max engine, and savors Stormcrow legs.

I'm gonna try an experimental Clan rotation while working my ClanTech, to see how long they take. Scouting's not too bad so long as I can get drops. :/

Edited by Amaranth Panther, 04 October 2016 - 06:31 AM.

[Amaranth Panther]

Requesting a ruling (or at least I don't recall the previous ruling if it came down):

May we run the trial mech for our chassis for enough matches to pick up 5 wins in trial mechs, and the "Less Green More Mean" achievement? We just got a Panther Trial/Champion, after all.

I know the principle generally is to run your own stuff as soon as possible, and exclusively threafter. I just think that 1000 GXP would sure be nice.

The trial Panther is the exact same build I use on my own PNT-10K, except maybe for the precise point values of the armor distribution. I'm gaining nothing except the achievement award by running it, and I'm better off running my own stuff after the fact.

I'll abide by the ruling though.

Edited by Amaranth Panther, 04 October 2016 - 10:24 PM.

[Ih8tevictors]

Amaranth Panther, on 04 October 2016 - 10:22 PM, said:

Requesting a ruling (or at least I don't recall the previous ruling if it came down): May we run the trial mech for our chassis for enough matches to pick up 5 wins in trial mechs, and the "Less Green More Mean" achievement? We just got a Panther Trial/Champion, after all. I know the principle generally is to run your own stuff as soon as possible, and exclusively threafter. I just think that 1000 GXP would sure be nice. The trial Panther is the exact same build I use on my own PNT-10K, except maybe for the precise point values of the armor distribution. I'm gaining nothing except the achievement award by running it, and I'm better off running my own stuff after the fact. I'll abide by the ruling though.

I am going to go with if your chassis is the trial it will not add stats that don't belong so go for it. besides it is basically the same as your mech but with a slightly less optimized load out

BTW when RVN 3L was a trial mech i played it to death. Gave me XP/Cbills for when i bought the 3L without a mechbay. may not be to the letter but i believe it is within the spirit of the challenge

my moral dilemma is this latest challenge. as i only have 2 classes of mechs i can only get 3 points a day. due to a family commitment i may miss out on the 400MC without jumping into a trial med or heavy for a couple of games. now i do still own a CDA 2A(C) i got for an earlier event. as i own it but it is not one of my Challenge Mechs should i reequip it? stole the eng for my VTR9K . HMMM i may have found an out....

[Sully McLiwenn]

*switching from Mike to Sully, changing male to female voice *

About that "dilemma": I think its absolutely ok, to use Trials for the Achievement and for Events like this one. As long as no real cash is payd, everything should be fine.

A Question about the Stockmech-Challenge: Can we choose freely from EdSteeles list?

Edited by Sully McLiwenn, 05 October 2016 - 07:46 AM.

[Ih8tevictors]

Sully McLiwenn, on 05 October 2016 - 07:30 AM, said:

A Question about the Stockmech-Challenge: Can we choose freely from EdSteeles list?

the only restriction i read is it can not be a mech you have perilously mastered on your WMC account. so yes you can choose any one. now if the point is to play it stock, with no changes, does that include the skill tree?

[3xnihilo]

Ok, rulings:

Yes, using the trial version of your mech is acceptable at any time since it is still the same chassis.

Yes, you can choose any of the stock mechs from the list regardless of what your original weight class was.

Now, using a trial of a different chassis to complete a challenge, I am on the fence about since the intent of the challenge is to limit you to the specific mechs you ended up with. However, for the sake of maintaining the fun of the challenge, I will
allow that you may choose a trial mech of one of the chassis that is in the original What Mech Quiz to fill out your weight classes.
The catch is, that is now your official mech of that weight class
For weight class based challenges (until the trials change then repeat the above procedure). It is the only mech of that weight class you may use and only during weight specific challenges.

Does that sound fair?

Edit: Meant to say you can choose one mech from each of the weight classes you are lacking.

Edited by 3xnihilo, 05 October 2016 - 08:17 AM.

[3xnihilo]

Ih8tevictors, on 05 October 2016 - 08:10 AM, said:

the only restriction i read is it can not be a mech you have perilously mastered on your WMC account. so yes you can choose any one. now if the point is to play it stock, with no changes, does that include the skill tree?

I would allow the skill tree since they do not affect the stock table top loadouts, only MWO specific mechanics.

[3xnihilo]

Ruling changed upon further consideration.

Edited by 3xnihilo, 05 October 2016 - 09:19 AM.

[Amaranth Panther]

Ih8tevictors, on 05 October 2016 - 06:30 AM, said:

I am going to go with if your chassis is the trial it will not add stats that don't belong so go for it. besides it is basically the same as your mech but with a slightly less optimized load out

BTW when RVN 3L was a trial mech i played it to death. Gave me XP/Cbills for when i bought the 3L without a mechbay. may not be to the letter but i believe it is within the spirit of the challenge

my moral dilemma is this latest challenge. as i only have 2 classes of mechs i can only get 3 points a day. due to a family commitment i may miss out on the 400MC without jumping into a trial med or heavy for a couple of games. now i do still own a CDA 2A(C) i got for an earlier event. as i own it but it is not one of my Challenge Mechs should i reequip it? stole the eng for my VTR9K . HMMM i may have found an out....

Teh presshure iz reahl.

I think this is where the dividing line sits.

Use of a trial that's not in your challenge roster has only ever been a thing when you've been so space poor that you couldn't even afford to call the mech sales agent, right? (really, please correct me if I'm wrong) Like the assault pilots, who can't even afford the stock variant after their cadet bonus, but who also don't have a trial available for their chassis at the time they started. In this case, it would add stats that shouldn't be there

I can't find my way within the challenge rules to justify myself doing it with the CDA-2A(C). Though, I have been wondering about the times we get stuck in weight-class limbo for these challenges. So far, the best any of us could manage would be 3 classes: Original and ClanTech challenge would be same class, Bonus 2 might be different depending on the quiz, and the stock might be different. Or not, you could just specialize in one class

I don't have an answer, or an idea for the weight class thing, just sorting it on the public whiteboard in the training room

Apparently I have a thing for emoticons today.

[3xnihilo]

Amaranth Panther, on 05 October 2016 - 08:33 AM, said:

Teh presshure iz reahl.

I think this is where the dividing line sits.

Use of a trial that's not in your challenge roster has only ever been a thing when you've been so space poor that you couldn't even afford to call the mech sales agent, right? (really, please correct me if I'm wrong) Like the assault pilots, who can't even afford the stock variant after their cadet bonus, but who also don't have a trial available for their chassis at the time they started. In this case, it would add stats that shouldn't be there

I can't find my way within the challenge rules to justify myself doing it with the CDA-2A(C). Though, I have been wondering about the times we get stuck in weight-class limbo for these challenges. So far, the best any of us could manage would be 3 classes: Original and ClanTech challenge would be same class, Bonus 2 might be different depending on the quiz, and the stock might be different. Or not, you could just specialize in one class

I don't have an answer, or an idea for the weight class thing, just sorting it on the public whiteboard in the training room

Apparently I have a thing for emoticons today.

See what I have posted above, that will be the official ruling unless Ed Steele overrides me. Or, ih8tevictors stages a mutiny

[Amaranth Panther]

3xnihilo, on 05 October 2016 - 08:54 AM, said:

See what I have posted above, that will be the official ruling unless Ed Steele overrides me. Or, ih8tevictors stages a mutiny

I was typing mine when you wrote yours. Sounds good so far.

[Amaranth Panther]

3xnihilo, on 05 October 2016 - 08:31 AM, said:

I just realized I have no idea which mechs are on the trial list right now and there is a possibility a weight class may not have one of the original WMC mechs. If this is the case choose an IS mech from the 3025 era if possible. If not,
Just choose an IS mech. Again, for weight class specific challenges only. (I could never be a lawyer, too many loopholes to figure out)

Recommendations, since we're already flexing some to accommodate:

1) For weight-based challenge allowances, think about the levels of challenge you haven't finished yet. This is basically for looking ahead to the stock challenge. Pick one that will fit one of these first, assuming the trial isn't the same as a designated stock mech. Remember, if you do something silly like pick the Shadowhawk trial, it's going to invalidate your stats since the trial is an optimized version of the 2H. and the first 100 must be stock. (Edit: Even this is potentiall hinky if you don't know what your 2nd quiz mech will be for Bonus Challenge 1. It could lock you out of your bonus 1 mech because it's become the primary for that class. Srsly, gotta think ahead)

TL;DR1: Think ahead.

2) If there's no quiz mech on trial, I think it's okay for us to say "no." It's not max funzors all the time, but there comes a point where we're creating too much potential for weird. There's also (more importantly) Ed's long-held metric that "It's a challenge. If you want to do all the things, maybe do them on your primary." (paraphrased) The challenge is to do what we can with what we've got.

TL;DR2: quiz mechs or bust

/My 2 CN9s

Edited by Amaranth Panther, 05 October 2016 - 09:15 AM.

[3xnihilo]

Alright, I was on the fence anyway. Let's make it quiz mechs or it's a no go. I think that is more in the spirit of the challenge. I shouldn't be trying to cram so much thinking into one lunch break

[Sully McLiwenn]

to point 1) agreed, and accepted. (not planning to use trials outside of events anyway..)
point 2) guess im disquilified then oO?!?. 3 rounds with the Warhawk-C(C) + 5 with the Stalker for this event...so..

was the Stalker i the quiz?

Edited by Sully McLiwenn, 05 October 2016 - 09:22 AM.

[Amaranth Panther]

3xnihilo, on 05 October 2016 - 09:18 AM, said:

Alright, I was on the fence anyway. Let's make it quiz mechs or it's a no go. I think that is more in the spirit of the challenge. I shouldn't be trying to cram so much thinking into one lunch break

My day job involves regulatory compliance. I'm a little used to spotting for this kind of stuff

I need to track down the quiz mech list.

[Sully McLiwenn]

From a Post of EdSteele from November 2015
____________
Quote:
"Greetings Ed!
HBS_Shiv just kindly provided the list of Mechs used in the "What Mech Are You?" quiz. We hope this helps!

Atlas
Panther
Commando
Thunderbolt
Cataphract
Raven
Banshee
Hunchback
Victor
Grasshopper
Centurion"
___________

so, no more Assault-Event-matches?

Dont like...

Edited by Sully McLiwenn, 05 October 2016 - 09:45 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Sully McLiwenn, on 05 October 2016 - 09:44 AM, said:

From a Post of EdSteele from November 2015
____________
Quote:
"Greetings Ed!
HBS_Shiv just kindly provided the list of Mechs used in the "What Mech Are You?" quiz. We hope this helps!

Atlas
Panther
Commando
Thunderbolt
Cataphract
Raven
Banshee
Hunchback
Victor
Grasshopper
Centurion"
___________

so, no more Assault-Event-matches?

Dont like...

Atlas, Victor and Banshee are assaults? Gotta admit, I am confused atm....

Sully McLiwenn, on 05 October 2016 - 09:21 AM, said:

to point 1) agreed, and accepted. (not planning to use trials outside of events anyway..)
point 2) guess im disquilified then oO?!?. 3 rounds with the Warhawk-C(C) + 5 with the Stalker for this event...so..

was the Stalker i the quiz?

Stalker is not in the Quiz, sadly. (Would have preferred Battlemaster or Stalker over Banshee, as BNC and Atlas largely fill the same role.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 05 October 2016 - 10:05 AM.