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Explain to me then, what purpose does enforcing a unit size cap serve, other than to punish players that are a part of a large and successful unit?
I run with the Seraphim. We already have dealt with this 'problem'. We have over 300 members with a high percentage of them are very active. The unit cap is a sham and easily circumvented. All that is being done is what has been said: units break up under different codes and run on the same teamspeak. Nothing changes. So what punishment? I see nothing but semantics with no functional change. Only hyperventilation from some very salty and entitled gamers. This is also known as 'a difference without a distinction'.
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Seal clubbing is an issue because of the way CW matchmaking is implemented, that is to say there is none, and there isn't enough players to enforce a matchmaker.
Right. There is no matchmaker really, or rather no PSR to make even matches. It's Thunderpdome in there. And that's the reason people quit. You have several high profile groups that have dozens of planets that delight in humiliating people, spamming ghost drops and building a reputation on the backs of a few dozen outstanding players. Too many also mock those who aren't in units who are trying to have fun and even have gone so far as to DEMAND PuGs be kept out of CW because they're not l33t enough. And so when those unworthy PuGs leave, these same alpha predators start going hungry but instead of fighting each other and organizing for smooth play, they take their thugfest into the group queue looking for more soft victims instead of just focusing on real challenges... the other units and players that drove off the easy prey. They are their own worst enemies and now are being called on it and suffering the consequences. What's worse? This is a small minority of the population. At most, maybe 1000 players destroying it for everyone else.
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You think punishing people in units is going to solve the seal clubbing ********? Cause it's not. Yeah, seal clubbing is a thing, and no punishing established units is not the answer.
Of course not. It's an ethics and attitude problem that extends far beyond units outside of the fact that similar personalities congregate. Watch videos of any PvP game and you see this same monstrous attitude and behavior between top level players. People, that if I had kids, I would forbid them playing with because of their spirit even moreso than their mouths. Yes I watch lots of videos from this game and others. Now with the tiers locking out the high level problem children from their easy prey (at least in solo queue) we get the bully's lament, complaining there's nobody to beat up anymore and that's no fun.
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I've seen the forumites demand stupid things, and I've seen them rewarded for their petulance.
Do you really want me to respond to this statement? I've seen it too... many are Tier 1 and 2 with backchannel connections. They should be careful what they write about this game on other blogs and reddits.
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It's amusing how you enjoy trying to paint tier 1's as desperate for seal clubbing, from personal experience I'll tell you, it's boring as all hell. I want to be challenged, I have no interest in fighting helpless opponents.
Really? Whenever I get into the group queue, I get Tier 1s and 2s against me regularly being ballasted by some low level players in their unit allowing them to be unfairly matched thanks to PSR averaging and too low a population. They then go on a tear garnering up to 90% of the kills for their 2-3 members that came in. When I go into CW, I never see these same caliber of names there. Not like when I was playing 20-30 CW matches a week in Phase 1. Why? It's dangerous to lose when you're protecting your tier by fighting your equals. Now this is just personal experience and not what I'd call a scientific sample, but watching the numbers in the faction screen, I know most don't/won't play because the difficulties of it all.
You guys keep saying this, but when I called out a 4man of Tier 1s one day, they just laughed and slaughtered everything. I'm sorry, you can say it's boring all you want, but actions say otherwise and too many don't hold to your standard of boredom. Even Russ called people out on it in the Townhall.
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I don't have anything against tier 4 and 5s,
What was that you said about us again? Oh yes.
"Btw anybody applauding the restrictions to unit sizes needs to crawl back in their flea ridden tier 5 cubby. I know it probably hurts your ego to get smashed by big name units, but jealously trying to get back at the players who put effort into winning cause your playstle isn't reaping the results you want is beyond petty."
This is blatant disrespect and you obviously have something against people not as good as you.
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but I do have something against entitled forumites
Again. I don't think you can handle the honest answer on this one. I have a problem with them too.
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Seeing everybody clamor to try and break a unit apart because they perceive them as the cause of terrible games is admittedly a bit irritating. Its those same type of guys who want a net nerf to every light in the game, because **** you the game revolves around me and should be tailored to fit my playstyle and preferences. If not lights, its weapons systems, and how X playstyle is killing the game.
Mixing your issues together into one ball of anger is not going to solve or help with any of them. Obviously this was the subject that broke your camel's back.
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Making me out to be some sort of ungodly hate machine over me feeling irritation over the rampant entitlement displayed here has got to be the most asinine aspect of your reply. I'm not some boogeyman who has it out for tier 4s and 5s, though admittedly my reply was a bit overly aggressive, that I'll apologize for, but I'm not changing my stance.
I'm not asking you change your stance. I am saying you need to take responsibility and accept consequences for what you said and HOW you said it. Mine by comparison could be viewed as a salty irritated adult. What you stated, if said to the face of another person was hateful and harmful. I did not do this to you. I only called you out on it for what it was: highly inappropriate and hypocritical. Now, you could do the mature thing, offer a real apology for what and how you said it, or you can do something else. The options are many.
Again. You need to do some SERIOUS self examination. We all should on this and see how hypocritical we all have been because there's not a single clean hand here to some degree or another.
So what's it going to be?
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cdlord, on 28 October 2015 - 12:34 PM, said:
