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[Hawk819]

Well, I know I got both. Warhammer and Marauder. Pack #1 for Warhammer will upgrade to Pack #2 w/ Black Widow. Next Tuesday

[no one]

If at any point you feel frustrated with this event just remember these words:
"At least I don't need to score 250 on any particular map."

Edited by no one, 28 October 2015 - 08:31 PM.

[Luscious Dan]

Hawk819, on 28 October 2015 - 07:04 PM, said:

ooooooooookkkkkkkkkk. . . what are the point requirements to get the Timber Wolf C Champ? I see all the rest of the points: 200 and 250, but nothing on how to get the Clan Champ!

It's random. When you scratch off the codes you can get cockpit items, MC, C-bills, GXP etc. or if you're lucky, it will give you the TBR-C(C) and a free Mechbay. You can only get that one once.

[Sereglach]

Well, this was highly unexpected. After merely 5 qualifying matches, total, I got the Mad Cat Champion mech (and already got a hanging pumpkin cockpit item). I'll chalk that up to sheer luck, since I'm not going to have boatloads of play time for this event. Very unusual for me, but I'm not going to complain. Maybe I'll eventually get around to acquiring the other two Mad Cats for mastery purposes.

Ironically, I won't complain if I get a bunch of "Trick" Flamers. Hopefully Flamers will be fixed soon and I can put them to much use. What better way to celebrate Halloween then with the fires of a hellish flamethrower?

[Ace Selin]

Deathlike, on 28 October 2015 - 12:51 PM, said:

Just hope RNGesus doesn't force you to wait long on the Timberwolf-C Champion prize...

Got mine on the 4th bag. Seems quite a few people are getting one .

[latinisator]

Got mine just seconds ago. Thx PGI!

Now if only people would stop acting like headlees chicken again and play smart as most usually do..

[PotatoMcWhiskey]

The event is gated against low skill and newer players. A new player could play 100 games, and never break 250 score and thus never get a single chance at a reward.

Very poorly designed event imo.

There should be a mechanism for new players and low skilled players to participate in the event. E.G, adding up the scores from games that are sub 250 until they equal 250 to get a reward. Or every 3 wins get one etc etc etc, but instead they chose a method that basically ensures only the higher skilled/experienced players will see any good out of the event.

Oh, and it also means that people who aren't in mechs that are hot in the meta are screwed aswell. Inadvertedly screwing new players, enforcing a meta game and giving the fingers to lower skilled players in one fell swoop.

So yeah basically **** everything about this event. To recap.

• The event is exclusive. Only a small percentage of the playerbase will be able to participate meaningfully.
  
• The event changes how players play the game. Reducing the quality of the games.
  
• Because of the score focus anyone who is in a Trial mech, or isn't running a Meta mech is totally ****** and will basically see maybe 1 reward every 10 game

How it should have been done.

• Based on wins. That way 50% of people get a prize every game.
  
• Random chance per game that increases every game you go without a prize. So game 1 you have a 25% chance, game 2 50%, 3 75% and game 4 if you got no prize yet the counter resets.
  
• You are given a mission at the start of a match "Destroy an arm" or "Kill a mech by destroying his legs" or "Score 6 assists" etc

Anything but the way they did it would have been preferred.

Edited by PotatoMcWhiskey, 28 October 2015 - 11:09 PM.

[Appogee]

It's been more than an hour since any of my qualifying games have appeared on the prize redemption page.

[Supah]

I think I'm eating all the back luck, you're welcome boys.

[Morgan Daval]

Just for curiosity, the real chances of getting the Timber Wolf (C) are as following:

As mentioned by Russ, the Chance of gettig the Timberwolf is 1% (or 0,01) per "grab into the bag".
Therefore, the chance of not getting it is 99% or 0,99 per "grab into the bag".

Without having the warhammer preordered you can have a maximum of 125 "bag grabs" (5x25, 25 per game mode).
With Warhammer preorder, you get 25 additional grab, summing up to 150.

Now it is calculated as follows:
The Overall chance of NOT getting the Timber Wolf is 0,99^125 which is 0,2847 or 28%. This means, the chance of GETTING the Timber Wolf is 1-0,2847 which is 0,7153 or 71,5%. (WITHOUT Warhammer preorder).
The Warhammer preorder increases the chance to 1-0,99^150 = 0,7785 or 77,85%.

Conclusion:
Without Warhammer: 71,5%
With Warhammer: 78,85%

I wish you all good luck

After about 30 bags, still no Timberwolf in my case, but I´m still hoping

[Voras]

Morgan Daval, on 29 October 2015 - 12:03 AM, said:

Conclusion:
Without Warhammer: 71,5%
With Warhammer: 78,85%

And this is only true if you really manage to get all the 125 possible "grabs into the bag".
So, either you are good enough to get one every game (with random missions this still takes a lot of games), or you have to grind your way through a brutally high number of matches...

[Diddi Doedel]

GuyFleegman, on 28 October 2015 - 01:23 PM, said:

250 is too high. Also, why is the CW match score only 200 and non CW requires 250? Makes no sense.

Did you check how the match score in CW works? It is divided by the number of mechs you use. So, if you are a TEAM player you are more than likely using more than one mech, probably 3 or 4, depending on your team and the opponents. That means you need to do around 1000+ damage to qualify for the grab ticket.

Do you still think that is that much easier than getting 250 score in a public queue or group queue match?

[Yozzman]

Nice event!

But it looks like there ain't enough warhammer sells???
Marauder should have some love too...

[no one]

Voras, on 29 October 2015 - 12:19 AM, said:

And this is only true if you really manage to get all the 125 possible "grabs into the bag".
So, either you are good enough to get one every game (with random missions this still takes a lot of games), or you have to grind your way through a brutally high number of matches...

If you're pulling off half your games at 250+ then that's 250 matches, some being long ass CW matches. So a 70% chance of a 15 million c-bill timber in 250 matches, during which you will have, averaging 100k a match, made 25 million c-bills. If you already have a timber then that's a 7.5m value? I mean, yes it's a nice gesture but since you CAN fail to get it and since the 'Mech Bay is the better part of the value. . . honestly, unless you're lucky it's probably not worth grinding for.

Math! Ruinin' everything!

Edited by no one, 29 October 2015 - 12:49 AM.

[Voras]

no one, on 29 October 2015 - 12:41 AM, said:

If you're pulling off half your games at 250+ then that's 250 matches, some being long ass CW matches. So a 70% chance of a 15 million c-bill timber in 250 matches, during which you will have, averaging 100k a match, made 25 million c-bills. If you already have a timber then that's a 7.5m value? I mean, yes it's a nice gesture but since you CAN fail to get it and since the 'Mech Bay is the better part of the value. . . honestly, unless you're lucky it's probably not worth grinding for.

Math! Ruinin' everything!

The extra problem is also, e.g. in PUGs you get the mission type at random... so maybe you end up with 60x skirmish, 10x conquest and 5x assault... so even if you get 250 score every time, you only get 40 tickets in 75 games.

[no one]

Voras, on 29 October 2015 - 01:04 AM, said:

The extra problem is also, e.g. in PUGs you get the mission type at random... so maybe you end up with 60x skirmish, 10x conquest and 5x assault... so even if you get 250 score every time, you only get 40 tickets in 75 games.

You can opt out of game types you don't want to play with the drop down tab on the launch button. It'll slow your matching but you won't be running game modes you don't need.

[Voras]

no one, on 29 October 2015 - 01:10 AM, said:

You can opt out of game types you don't want to play with the drop down tab on the launch button. It'll slow your matching but you won't be running game modes you don't need.

Uh... forgot about that... must be because I think that this is a flawed design to opt out on game modes, if the population is small...

[Fiona Marshe]

Got a Timber with thr bonus packs. This is good, as I can now work on my alt (Clan CW) account for the event, instead of trying to do it twice.

[Zolaz]

What can you say PGI made an elite event for elite players. All you surats just have to get better.

[Ninjah]

Nice event, thanks PGI! Gotta say matches are pretty hard core in top tiers but still doable. Didn't get the Timber yet - fingers crossed