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[Kira Onime]

Mystere, on 03 November 2015 - 02:45 PM, said:

Many don't find Skirmish "interesting". And many dislike Terra Therma because "It's too hot!" -- as in people are unable to manage their heat.

Okay?

[Veritae]

Mystere, on 03 November 2015 - 02:42 PM, said:

Why not just randomize the selections instead, as we used to have for maps? It's the fastest and easiest way to get a match. Alleged long wait times are the reason this was being done in the first place, right?

This "voting" system just increases the probability of certain maps or game modes not being played.

I'm fine with that, but the OP and his ilk are not. They say they have a right to play nothing but conquest and they wanna take their ball and go home.

[1Grimbane]

What mind actually enjoys terra therma.... are you one of them weird european types

[Bishop Steiner]

Veritae, on 03 November 2015 - 02:22 PM, said:

Are you kidding? Almost all CONQUEST matches end with one side killing 12 mechs. So now conquest is the same thing as skirmish, too!

We need more game mode variety. I agree that deathballing is stale. This is how you get more game modes.

Yes. Conquest usual ends in one side killing the other.

So what? This is still a combat game. The difference is, Conquest much less commonly devolves into static 12v12 death balls. The figjt tends to be much more fluid and mobile, with more actual tactical considerations than Skirmish.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 03 November 2015 - 03:01 PM.

[Mavairo]

Veritae, on 03 November 2015 - 02:55 PM, said:

I'm fine with that, but the OP and his ilk are not. They say they have a right to play nothing but conquest and they wanna take their ball and go home.

Conquest and Assault.

Maybe you should try reading what's being written.
I have a right to not play Skirmish EVERY ******* GAME.

Maybe YOUR ilk is the problem. People like you who mouth breathe and can't lift yourselves out of the levels of Sub Normal long enough to do something other than engage in mindless death balls.

Edited by Mavairo, 03 November 2015 - 02:59 PM.

[Mystere]

Kira Onime, on 03 November 2015 - 02:54 PM, said:

Okay?

Brainless players like Skirmish, right?

[Veritae]

Mystere, on 03 November 2015 - 02:36 PM, said:

Here's a thought. Maybe PGI should have added game mode "voting" after they added more modes.

I agree with this. But I suspect they wanted the UI done in time for Steam launch as part of their polishing.

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And what would you say if PGI added only one but no more after that? That assumes we even get a new one ... soon.

I would say bummer, and keep playing all the game modes because I love playing this game. I really don't understand why people cry so much in here.

[Cupid and Psyche _]

I think PGI handled this fairly well. It is not that unreasonable.

What would be worse is if you could adjust your build for the map that you were dropping on. Then the meta would be extreme.

[Kyle Travis]

1Grimbane, on 03 November 2015 - 02:56 PM, said:

What mind actually enjoys terra therma.... are you one of them weird european types

Perhaps people actually want to have a challenge and not just try and win the game at the map selection stage

[Simbacca]

Mystere, on 03 November 2015 - 02:45 PM, said:

Many don't find Skirmish "interesting". And many dislike Terra Therma because "It's too hot!" -- as in people are unable to manage their heat.

I agree I do not like Skirmish mode.

As for Terra Therma - for me the heat is not an issue (I have to be more choosy when firing), it is its map design. For conquest mode - the map works fine. Especially in skirmish, and to a large degree in Conquest mode - the map devolves into fighting for the centre.

[Veritae]

Mavairo, on 03 November 2015 - 02:57 PM, said:

Conquest and Assault.

Maybe you should try reading what's being written.
I have a right to not play Skirmish EVERY ******* GAME.

Maybe YOUR ilk is the problem. People like you who mouth breathe and can't lift yourselves out of the levels of Sub Normal long enough to do something other than engage in mindless death balls.

Dude. You just quoted me saying I am happy to play all modes with a random selection. Then you ignored the quoted text in your own post. That is some epic cognitive dissonance.

I've agreed with you that if the RNG is making skirmish a selection in every match that you pay, then it should be fixed.

You're throwing a tantrum. Suggest improvements for PGI to tweak the process until you can live with it. You're behaving like a toddler. Put aside your entitlement. Assume that a good suggestion might gain some traction with the devs, and propose a better option. But it is clear that they are not going back to hard vetoes, so give it up.

[Mar-X-maN]

[Simbacca]

Mar X maN, on 03 November 2015 - 03:15 PM, said:

To be fair, Counter-Strike (1.5 or is that 1.6 ?) Dust was perhaps surpassed by the Dust II map. Office however, remained very popular.

[Mainhunter]

Map vote is ok, but I will not play if i get forced to play Assault or Skirmish. These game modes pure s***. Mail me, if you changed it back.

[Tordin]

This new voting system is... no its not great. Here "democracy" rules favor the try hards and meta heads. The old random "forced" you to play maps you didnt really like, but that made you adapt, didnt it? The less popular maps like the bog, terra, alpine grew on me, I accepted the maps challenge of heat and environment. Now? of the matches I recently played none of them maps I mentioned get picked.

[Mavairo]

Veritae, on 03 November 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

Dude. You just quoted me saying I am happy to play all modes with a random selection. Then you ignored the quoted text in your own post. That is some epic cognitive dissonance.

I've agreed with you that if the RNG is making skirmish a selection in every match that you pay, then it should be fixed.

You're throwing a tantrum. Suggest improvements for PGI to tweak the process until you can live with it. You're behaving like a toddler. Put aside your entitlement. Assume that a good suggestion might gain some traction with the devs, and propose a better option. But it is clear that they are not going back to hard vetoes, so give it up.

YOU are the one with the reading fail here. YOU just said people like me only want to play Conquest, when I have said time and again I do not only play conquest. Infact IN MY FIRST POST I out right state that I play conquest and assault. AS IN TWO OUT OF THREE EXISTING MODES.

YOU have taken that to mean, magically that I only play conquest.

YOU are the one defending the fact that PGI has implemented a voting system for map modes, which clearly slant a bias towards Skirmish, and Frozen City Over and Over again. YOU are the one who thinks this is a GOOD idea, when all it has done is create a horrendous situation where by the idiots that only want to play skirmish forever, on a map where they don't have to worry nearly as much about heat management, and are pro removing of map diversity get their wish and are claiming this is GOOD for the game.

Do you not read anything written or do you just go and throw crap at the screen in hopes of it sticking? It would certainly reflect the pattern of a Skirmish Forever player.

There is NOTHING good about forcing paying players into game modes they don't want to play, on the same ******* maps over and over again.

A better option? Stop pissing off paying players. Especially ones who have forked over several hundred dollars over the game's life.

When it's not Canyon, it's Frozen City. Over and over. Know why? Because THOSE ARE THE MAPS PEOPLE VOTE FOR WHEN THEY COME UP.

Meaning you will almost NEVER see any other map when those are options presented. When skirmish is one of the choices? IT WILL WIN, all of the votes, PERIOD.

You can add all the game modes you want, but the second you let players dictate by mass vote, what they are going to play, in this game, they will vote for skirmish every ******* time. That bias to Skirmish in the playerbase is EXACTLY why I quit dropping with skirmish selected. Because if I did 75% of all my matches would be Skirmish Game Mode, or more because guess what? That's what players all selected, and that is what the game first looks for in the match maker in the old system. Now? Skirmish is an option nearly full time, and guess what? Surprise surprise, it's panning out EXACTLY like it did before only with a new layer of hell added to the "fun" of being on the same ******* map time and again.

For someone like me, that thinks a game should be more than just a mindless death match fest? Any pretense, of game play pleasure, is now dead. I am not going to play a game where 75% of the time or more, I'm going to be stuck in a death match, on one of two maps over and over. And I damn sure will not open my wallet to continue supporting said game either.

Edited by Mavairo, 03 November 2015 - 03:30 PM.

[MoonUnitBeta]

I like it.

[Mister Savage]

Old system please :/

[Bishop Steiner]

I miss the days when it was totally random, we had zero input into it, we got what we got
....... And we liked it!
(Ok, like might be a strong word here)

[Mavairo]

Bishop Steiner, on 03 November 2015 - 03:32 PM, said:

I miss the days when it was totally random, we had zero input into it, we got what we got
....... And we liked it!
(Ok, like might be a strong word here)

It's preferable to the metaphorical punch in the balls I get every time I have qued up today. I'd rather have ZERO input, what so ever than this crap.