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Did You Choose A Frozen Map So Your Opponents Can Use More Lasers Against You?


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#1 Felicitatem Parco

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Posted 12 November 2015 - 03:59 PM

... Because that's what's gonna happen.

You choose a cold map, your opponents get enhanced cooling for their Lasers...

Think about it.

#2 Homeskilit

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Posted 12 November 2015 - 04:09 PM

I pick Frozen City because it is a small map that usually becomes a brawl very quickly. I never pick Alpine because the opposite is true for that map.

Edited by Homeskilit, 12 November 2015 - 04:11 PM.


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Posted 12 November 2015 - 04:11 PM

Yes. Yes I did.

#4 El Bandito

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Posted 12 November 2015 - 06:17 PM

Frozen City matches are guaranteed to be over in a short amount of time, mostly. Which is awesome for grinding C-Bills.

Thanks, Paulconomy!

#5 Zordicron

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Posted 12 November 2015 - 08:08 PM

hahaha, it's funny cause it's true.

Really though- sometimes I think people just push it becuase the hivemind subliminaly told them to.

I had a team a couple nights back, I picked canyon/conquest... got outvoted. KK, whatevs, my Ebon Jag is good to go.

Get into map. Team mates are a mixmatch bunch of LRM awesome, dakkaboat dwf, twin goosewaffle Illya(lol) you know... basically, 3/4 of my team was mid/long range mechs that brawl for **** of had weapons completely ineffective inside of 300M compared to 80% of anything.

Funny part was, enemy team was about 50% that too. So all i could think, was people just don;t freegin get it! AND THEN, lol, and then- both teams march into the city grids to faceblast each other! LRM boat awesome was right there behind DWF lol, twin goose Illya tried to stay off the front lines, but he was right in there too.

So, 70% of these guys, voted for the coldest map that favors point blank brawls, with mechs that had zero advantage, OR WORSE.

It's just amusing I guess. If you are going to vote for the cold map, like every time(as people say happens) wouldn;t you bring like, a laser boat or something?

hahahha, but then, as if the people that can't wrap their head around that concept will come here to the forums anyway.

Edited by Eldagore, 12 November 2015 - 08:09 PM.


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Posted 12 November 2015 - 09:05 PM

I dislike the severely hot maps because the heat system is already tortuously bad, but the snow maps are some of the worst laid out, so I don't pick them either.

I like Canyon Network. Sure it's a navigation problem, but it never forces me to use eye searing or poor contrast vision modes that limit my range of vision, cloak ECM 'Mechs or otherwise don't function in a sane or realistic way. Crimson's also okay.

Most time's I just vote against the majority just to help give the minority a fair chance.

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Posted 12 November 2015 - 09:21 PM

This was one of the first things that came to my mind too, lol.

"So, the meta is front-loaded lasers, so you stock up on them and vote for a cold map, to get an advantage. But if front-loaded lasers are the meta, everyone and his dog will _also_ mount them, so you don´t actually _get_ an advantage."

@Eldagore
LOL, I am pretty sure I wasn´t in that match, but I sure could be guilty of doing something like that, given I have still no clue about the maps :)

#8 Davers

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Posted 12 November 2015 - 09:34 PM

The 'cold' maps also have the least vegetation and smoke. So cooler and with better visibility.

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Posted 12 November 2015 - 11:43 PM

Lol, frozen city has the "better visibility". Didnt notice that before. Thx!
Its by far the most played cold map!

Edited by stocky0904, 12 November 2015 - 11:47 PM.


#10 Vellron2005

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 02:57 AM

I chose Frozen city?

Wait, WHAT?

Change to Thera Therma , change to TERRA THERMA, for the love of Kerensky's sister, change now!!

(Clicks mouse buttons wildly*)


Oh, its HPG?

<_<

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 03:00 AM

Easily fixed, coming soon.

Reason why frozen is so often, because its represented 2 times in the pool, day and night seperately, new maps dont have that because they have different daytimes built in.

They need to adjust the weighting so both FC maps have half the chance to appear in the voting

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 03:07 AM

Or because they have lazors too. Metamechs says so.

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 01:41 PM

I always pick the hottest or largest map. Sometimes it works, otherwise I just enjoy whatever drops.

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 02:21 PM

I do it to find the hidden penguins...

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 02:25 PM

Yes, enhanced cooling. if i can focus my fire better than my opponents, the ability to shoot more (cooler map with lasers) gives me more of an advantage than someone who sprays damage. but that's more of an individual advantage. as opposed to a team advantage

View PostTexAce, on 13 November 2015 - 03:00 AM, said:

Easily fixed, coming soon.

Reason why frozen is so often, because its represented 2 times in the pool, day and night seperately, new maps dont have that because they have different daytimes built in.

They need to adjust the weighting so both FC maps have half the chance to appear in the voting


I'm actually recording what maps I'm given in an effort to determine the weighting. Whilst i have only recorded 39 votes (small sample size), 25% of my votes have contained Frozen City or Frozen City Night. If you call that "often", consider these other stats;

There is roughly a 60% chance for a vote to contain Veridian Bog, 50% for Caustic Valley, 50% for river city, 55% for Terra Therma, and 55% for Forest Colony

#16 His Holiness Pope Buster

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 02:30 PM

Since cold maps are more often chosen over hatter maps it seems to suggest that more than half the players are ok with a shorter TTK.

#17 Felicitatem Parco

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 02:46 PM

I just think it's a bit odd to choose a map that is supposed to give you an advantage when it gives your opponents the same advantage...

That's about as smart as choosing the Oval Track for your "personal advantage" so your NASCAR-spec'd vehicle can outdrive everyone else's NASCAR-spec'd vehicle.

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 03:04 PM

When it comes to Frozen City Daytime, I'd actually prefer a map like Tourmaline so that I can actually freaking see more than about 300 meters. Same deal for Canyon.

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 03:45 PM

I'm a rebel. I always vote for the hot maps like Terra Therma or Caustic Valley. :ph34r:





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