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[0verClock]

So, we got to pay for our travel and hotel ourselves?

[CainenEX]

I'm going to chime in that the game is not ready for Steam release.

I would rather they have waited 6 months before going to steam. While things are better than a year ago, I believe the game lacks the polish to keep the non-casual, that knows nothing to little of the BT universe, interested in the "long tern" for the game. The grind, w/o premium time, is kinda huge. The store needs some work, make the player feel GOOD about buying stuff (no lore text, no animation). I also don't want these new poeple to run into the whole laser/gauss meta and getting insta cored in the first few minutes of a match. And do you think the monetiztion model in this game is going to entice the casual with the prices that are up? Maybe the new mechs (which were nicely done), but the older stuff (read $500 gold mechs) is horrendously expensive.

I just have some serious concerns for the game I love. I'm hoping they can pull it off, but my experience with the video game industry tells me that if you launch a product before its ready then bad things will happen.

I do wish you the best of luck. Hopefully this will bring and KEEP a good flux of players.

I guess their is nothing else to say but... FULL STEAM AHEAD! XD

Edited by CainenEX, 13 November 2015 - 06:36 AM.

[Mechteric]

Void2258, on 13 November 2015 - 06:14 AM, said:

This game is not STEAM ready. Doing this now will result in the community on steam looking at the game and then leaving. You will squander your only chance to increase the player base.

• Community warfare needs to be finished. Version 1, no beta.
  
• The game needs to be in a balanced state.
  
• Maps all need to be updated. The residual v1 maps you still have in the game will turns people away.
  
• Social features need to greatly improved.
  
• Skill tree needs to be updated and polished.
  
• The lobby experience needs to be improved.
  
• And Many More!

You know, there are plenty of games on Steam that aren't "Finished". Time will tell what that really means.

[Sturmwind]

Considering the announcement has been made, the clock is ticking for the release...nothing that can be said here will change that.

Personally, I think this will go somewhat like this...


X amount of new people think "Oh hey, what's this? Let's try it out" - get completely overwhelmed by the poor documention IN the game and very quickly either bored (or annoyed) about the fact of having to read up tons on the forum to learn about a good bunch of things.

The community players that have been here since closed beta, will enjoy shooting people obviously having no clue what they're doing (likely, not guranteed) and exactly those, through Steam newly gaine players, will very quickly realize that without

* proper documentation,
* a worthwhile IN-DEPTH tutorial,
* correct hit-detection and bug-fixing of long-time issues,

...they're going to be essentially cannonfodder until such time, where these long-standing issues finally get resolved in a way that the majority of new players can find their way around the game without being slandered (it'll happen...enough toxic people that let their frustration out on others), slaughtered (because...hey! Free kills!) and ultimately driven away.

Mechwarrior always was, is and will be a niche-game, played by people that are true fans for the most part. Casual gamers like you find a lot on Steam, don't have the frustration resistance displayed by many people here.

The above being said...I still hope it'll turn out well and help the game along, but I'm also honest and think it's not a good idea at the current state of the game. This product isn't in a finished stated where it just need expanding and polishing.

[Lord Auriel]

From the perspective of someone who never heard about battletech before (and i still don't care about the TT.. the lore is fun but I don't take it too seriously). My story with MWO began in the last 2 weeks of open Beta. I was brought to MWO by a friend who said "hey try this game it's fun". I did, my first 'mech was the trial victor, and I had no idea what I was doing but after two hours or so.. things began to make sense. For me the most fun part as indeed the complexity, having to LEARN things. It felt kinda like becoming a member of a secret club of insiders. You know.. reading mechspecs.com, reddit and so on.

It's not that horrible guys. Also, saying that the game is still beta is ridiculous. Really, try playing some WoT or WarThunder. Bigger titles, less quality. Also, having a President who actually maintains a twitter account and responds to it is a luxury. Most of the time, you either "play the game as it is or **** off".

Help new players when they start pouring in and recruit them for your units. it will be fun.

There will be a lot of disconnecting, griefing, team damage and so on, that's for sure though

Edited by Lord Auriel, 13 November 2015 - 07:06 AM.

[Cinerama]

Of course this game isn't steam ready. But who in their damned mind would plan a steam release 10 days after you are releasing one of the most controversial and radically balance changes there has been for a long time?

But what most of you are forgetting. You don't get second chances at a steam release. If the New player experience is bad, if the learning curve is too steep, if the balance is bad, the prices for mech packs too high, The new players will voice their opinion in the steam reviews. The bad taste and the bad reviews will stick.

I hear a lot of people saying that they are going to be happy with the influx of new players because of this steam release. But how long can MWO keeps these players before they are frustrated by: the grind, the price of clan mechs, the lack of game modes, the balance etc?

And the timing seems very bad (not only that it's too soon), it's very near to the start of the steam sale (around 18th of December). most people are gonna keep their money in their pocket until the steam sale. Who is gonna buy a $30 mech pack when 1 week later you can buy 3 triple A games from 2014 for the same money

Edited by Cinerama, 13 November 2015 - 07:11 AM.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

OU MY GODNESS.

[Sigmar Sich]

Glad MWO goes to Steam (because of finished rebalance, i hope. If no - please stop! or rush rebalance. Current quirk balance makes gameplay worse than before it).
But RL party for few chosen ones - totally worthless.

[Tarzilman]

Revorn, on 12 November 2015 - 04:51 PM, said:

Nice to know, and good Luck for the Steamrelease,

Only leaves one Question.....

Classic!
I love this movie!

[Tarzilman]

John Archer, on 12 November 2015 - 05:02 PM, said:

*shakes head and waits for the influx of the kiddies*

Perhaps those kiddies will bring the fresh wind mwo urgently needs.
It definitely has enough of narrow-minded "adults".

Edited by Tarzilman, 13 November 2015 - 07:27 AM.

[IG 88]

STEAM EARLY ACCESS......

[Tenacious B]

I don't understand the gripe of people saying "it's not ready for Steam"... Have we not already been playing the game for 2+ years now? There must have been something PGI did right to keep us around that long, let alone make to the point of a Steam launch. Steam's Early Access program is proof that gamers don't need a "finished" product for it to be successful. They won't care if CW is not 100%; no noob would actually join that queue anyway because they won't have a clue(or enough mechs) to set up a dropship.

FTP games that are not new releases(and have been around in some form outside of Steam) tend to do very well once the player base migrates. Some PC gamers never leave the comfort of their Steam library, and watch those steamcharts like a hawk.. so this is an opportunity for the game to grow. If we can get lets say 10k people playing on launch day, it will crack the top 25 and people will notice. So to the elders, founders and lore fanatics.. Get ready to do some teaching.. gonna be a mess of new pilots!

Edit/TL;DR: I'm an avid "steamer" .. This is huge step in expanding the player base. There are a lot of really BAD games on Steam and this won't be one of them.

Edited by Tenacious B, 13 November 2015 - 08:00 AM.

[Magna Canus]

A few of the Steam players will stick, even if the majority do not. I came in on the first day of open Beta and faced the "experienced crowd". I got face r@ped , got up, and had another go. My only previous experience with MW was MW4 from mechtek. This story may be rare, but odds are you will have more like it come steam release.

The game could be better, a lot better, but the milk has been spilled and no amount of bitter/salty tears will put it back. Suck it up and make the best of it. Not all gamers are lily livered whiners that give up after the first try. Some people deserve more credit than this forum is willing to give. Either that or they are just as desperate as those moaning about but still playing for whatever reason.

[Wayreth]

Steam is a good place for this game to go and die. Balance issues still exist, scaling, horrible pilot ratings grind. Yeah I am sure many of the Steam community will put up with that for years and years as they have here.

[xWiredx]

So... like... community members are going to pay hundreds for a flight and then about another hundred for a hotel room... and they get dinner? That must be one hell of a dinner.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

xWiredx, on 13 November 2015 - 08:08 AM, said:

That must be one hell of a dinner.

steam newbies. Tasty.

[DAYLEET]

Best of luck! Steam is a requirement these days.





maybe people will stop telling me how much better it is in t4

[Kiriesani]

"This game is bad and release will be bad and balance is bad and maps are bad and meta is bad and tutorial is bad."
>Continues to play MWO

General state of the vocal minority.

[Axeface]

I dont understand why so many here are saying it isnt ready.
The game is fully functional, We've got some awesome maps now and the combat is good (even most complainers admit to that). It's fine for a steam release. If you guys think getting a bad review rating is going to 'destroy the game' then you are wrong. It probably will get a terrible rating but it doesnt really matter (and most f2p's do) - all that matters is that it's gonna get more players involved.

Good luck all, it's going to be rocky, but in the end its a good thing.

Edited by Axeface, 13 November 2015 - 08:37 AM.

[NocturnalBeast]

It is funny that people keep referring to "Steam Kiddies". Steam has been around much longer than MWO and myself and most of my long-time gaming friends, who are definitely not "kiddies" (well maybe big kids at heart), have been on Steam for years.