31 replies to this topic

[izzycat218]

The thought is if you look at the "unseen" mechs there has been one a month which seems like a subscription to me. If they were to ask for 10-20 a month would people be willing to pay it? PGI have stated they rely on mech packs to fund things now. So why not just go to subscription at this point? Theoretically they would reduce the grind and mech costs.

What I've noticed working in small business is consistent income is far better than spike income when it comes to daily operation of a company. As an incentive it could give a slight cbill bonus or access to exclusive things. I don't know about the rest of you but my wallet could handle a small monthly fee over 60-240 dollar mech packs every month. Also with a constant income they could finely expand and get more programmers so things can finely get fix. Example cockpit screens.

[CygnusX7]

You do realize if it was subscription based they would still charge for mechs, right?
I play a game that is subscription based but we still pay for content.

[izzycat218]

CygnusX7, on 13 November 2015 - 10:14 AM, said:

You do realize if it was subscription based they would still charge for mechs, right?
I play a game that is subscription based but we still pay for content.

Is the content cheaper for being subscribed? I did say they may drop the price for things some. Right now they want micro transactions but the prices aren't micro at all. I realize that since it's not a physical object pricing is harder to do, but doesn't mean the customer has to be gouged to make a profit.

[Scar Glamour]

Paying subscription for MMOFPS with no new content except new mechs at extra cost? There is no way in heck that's gonna work.

[TheArisen]

I've suggested offering a subscription but not making the game subscription based. If you pay for a subscription you get extra goodies such as prem time, discounts, etc.
http://mwomercs.com/...cription-model/

[StraferX]

No

Game is not that good that I would subscribe a monthly fee.
Broken things since beginning that have not been fixed show me that main interest is cash so this would make me not want to pay for broken.
Lack of maps and good modes are not worthy of subscription.

[JediPanther]

Do you really want to waste $15-20 on this game in the state that it is in every month? That $180-240 can buy a lot of things, real physical things even or a bill or two.

[Aetes Nakatomi]

I would be happy with premium time, a few hundred mc and one free mech of my choice per month for a sub fee (somewhere between £10-£15).

I think this would knock a bit of the grind on the head and you could paint your 'free' mech.

[Lugh]

No way is this game worth paying a subscription for....

If people aren't willing to pay a subscription to a game like Star Wars the Old Republic, which had a myriad of planets you could adventure on, and 8 distinct classes with stories for all of them with good pvp to start.

Then there is zero chance people will pay for arena death match 101 ...

I could get that fix in any shooter ever made.

[sycocys]

It would be pretty disasterous for them to switch to a subscription based model given how much of their funding up to this point was based on f2p/purchases if you want.

Combine that with the fact that they never developed the game up to this point, and most players would just look at them with the WTF face.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

I do computer repair and cyber security work and it's a bit feast or famine.

I find that so long as I maintain a good average income and keep enough dosh in the bank to cover the low months it doesn't matter much either way.

Still, I wouldn't mind a freemium model along the lines of DDO where premium gives you access to everything, some MC, extra earnings etc, but you can buy/earn individual bits of content as a non-premium player.

[Stelar 7]

Most of the content of this game is other players and shooting them. Adding a financial barrier to entry will limit that content. Limited content will drive away the whales who have the cash to cover the free players and it will diminish the desire of folks like me who are not whales but do buy stuff.

Your version takes out the choices to get stability, however the online market has pretty resoundingly rejetted the sub model for micro transactions.

Tl;Dr
Your business is too different from this business. Sub bad micro transactions good.

[Mazzyplz]

bwahahaha most terrible idea from the forums that i have ever read.

if they started charging for logging in the game would finally kick the bucket

i'd like to see your wait times then

[Revis Volek]

These are in fact MICRO TRANSACTIONS by definition and the f2p model is not the saving grace of MMo's but at the same time is often much better then a Sub model.

For one, if people dont play more then once a week they wont bother with sub's, also if they dont plan on spending money on the game the sub model just turns them off immediately. I paid for FF online sub model and only lasted about 2 months, game wasnt that much worth paying for and the sub model still wanted micro transactions for cosmetics and such so that part never left even with the sub model in place.

f2p as bad as it can be is still better then subscription based stuff unless you really have a decent game to sell your customers. Look at Star Wars (like Stelar stated) game as leaps and bounds more developed then this one and they couldn't maintain the sub model either.... Minimally viable products cant be charged for and PGI knows its.


I suggest anyone who thinks SUB models are the way to go takes a look into a little flop called WILDSTAR....they just re released the game and made it FREE TO PLAY!

Edited by DarthRevis, 13 November 2015 - 11:34 AM.

[sycocys]

If that wasn't NCsoft I might actually consider trying it. I'll be just fine if I never see another game with an alpaca mount.

[Navid A1]

Oh... really?

Last time i checked, MWO needed 10 times more player population, meaning that they should give out more prizes and freebies to attract people.

going subscription-based is for games that already HAVE a large population.!

[SkyHammyr]

If you buy enough MC to purchase premium time on a monthly basis, you have your subscription.
Asking for any more subscriber rewards than auto-premium time is unrealistic.

[PurpleNinja]

Simple answer, yes, no, maybe.

[TLBFestus]

If they went strictly subscription, I don't think they have the population base to support the game.

What they should consider is a subscription (or Premium time if you insist) that offers a heck of a lot more than it does currently.

It should include;

- private matches
- private match settings adjustability (tonnage, stock, weapon limits, etc)
- c-bill bonus
- XP bonus
- GXP bonus
- 30-50% discount on MC prices for anything
- perhaps free paints.

Keep the FTP model, spice up the Sub option to make it desirable without becoming PTW.

[Mechteric]

No. I could explain why, but this video was already here, so....




Unless they offer a subscription in addition to being F2P, in which case it would be a good idea. Planetside 2 already has a decent system for this where your monthly payment goes toward not only the premium time for resource/XP boosts, but also gives a monthly stipend of the game's credits to use toward gun/camo/etc purchases. This is the only option for MWO that would make sense and come out well.

Edited by CapperDeluxe, 13 November 2015 - 02:47 PM.