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How I expect Pay to Win players to react to MWO when it's released


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#61 Lightdragon

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 12:56 PM

FINALLY someone with some brains enters this dumb thread

#62 skeetr72

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 01:00 PM

Personally, hope the undesirables stay in WOT and away from MWO. More often than not a game that depends so heavily on team play and yet apparently doesnt obviously enough reward team play leads to a coin toss.

In WOT though, get on a good team and follow some semblance of a plan and the game is fun...then there is the other 98% of the time.

Here's hoping that the COD-wannabes and "omglolno0bL2p" types stay away, cheers

#63 Doubtful Danary

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 01:03 PM

Lol, hilarious.

#64 Brenden

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 01:04 PM

View PostAlzoc, on 20 July 2012 - 05:26 AM, said:

Sorry was still typing just wanted to check my quote and don't want to retype everything.

But my post said (shortly )

-Don't have the patience to teach how world works to naïves people.
That of course the devs have the game in their hands for now because you are in beta, but it will fall in the hand of a company as soon as it will be released (still I hope no because I liked the gameplay of the only MW I played and I don't want this game to live and die like the average f2p)

-Then I said that Douglas Reichel has no right to speak about WoT because he/she is so low in the game that he /she played it for less than 3 hours (from tier 1 to 2 take about three battles, 10 min each). Then explained him he were wrong on Premium WoT mechanism wich are for now the same than in MWO prem account to progress faster and founder package similare to premiums tanks (way more expensives than prem tanks but your choice). Please check my stats and tanks I own, Alzoc EU server.

-That fans (any kind) make me sick because they base their oppinion on nothing, and spitt to the face of any people who disagree with them.

So I think I'll just wait the release of the game, because I said it I like the gameplay and will laugh when the first p2w item will come.

If you want to dicuss further with me please do it by mp because if it's just to troll (for you Jade Kistune) by crying to troll it's completly out of topic
Once again have a nice day and sorry for the english

What if it doesn't become Pay to win, what then?

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 01:07 PM

And the moral of the story is..... Dont buy to many c bils and expect to be able to dive into them. youll just get hurt lol

#66 Stygian Steel

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 01:10 PM

eh its on par with battlefield play4free with the weapon mods you can buy, heavybarrels that give +3-5 dmg added to ammo types that increase dmg scopes that increase acc. stocks that reduce recoils e.t.c...heck if you spend enough money your gun could be maxxed out to epi proportions, but if you dont spend cash then your stuck with a stock gun with iron sights and horrible recoil(generally)

#67 Brenden

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 01:12 PM

View PostStygian Steel, on 20 July 2012 - 01:10 PM, said:

eh its on par with battlefield play4free with the weapon mods you can buy, heavybarrels that give +3-5 dmg added to ammo types that increase dmg scopes that increase acc. stocks that reduce recoils e.t.c...heck if you spend enough money your gun could be maxxed out to epi proportions, but if you dont spend cash then your stuck with a stock gun with iron sights and horrible recoil(generally)

This isn't Battlefield, Steel, this is Battletech. Completely different game. Sure, when you buy Legendary you get your pick of the 'mechs, but they are the kinds that other people can make as well. The only difference I can see is the skin, which is a type of dark blue/grey and the Catapult's beak. Battlefield is for twitchers, Battletech is for those who enjoy tactical fighting.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 02:01 PM

The only thing that a payment scheme is going to change here is the amount of time it takes to achieve the same goal ie. a mech. So if a player that pays to get bonuses to xp and c-bills plays less games and the guy that doesn't pay has to play more games. Who wins? The guy that didn't pay anything. Why? Theoretically more games played = more skill (Not necessarily true; but majority).

He should be better in that mech/tank/w.e b/c he's played more games in it, has a good loadout that compliments his skills type, all that jazz. Not to mention people that don't pay anything get to ride on the backs people who invested money into game. Someone has to feed the programmers energy drinks right? Dev. team can't live on just the love from the community, maybe the souls, but not just love. Double win!

So congrats to all that can afford a computer to play this game, but not be able to shell out 60-100 bucks for something that you will enjoy for the years to come. I applaud you!

Edited by Bunkerbomber, 20 July 2012 - 02:02 PM.


#69 Catamount

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:17 PM

View PostBunkerbomber, on 20 July 2012 - 02:01 PM, said:

So congrats to all that can afford a computer to play this game, but not be able to shell out 60-100 bucks for something that you will enjoy for the years to come. I applaud you!


Who says I can afford any such computer? I built this machine over two years ago, when money was vastly less scarce ;)

#70 The Master 1955

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:27 PM

World of Tanks golden ammunition. It more or less negates the enemies armor and always penetrates


Are you NUT's Gold ammo doesn't guarantee anything you still have to hit it just dose some more damage.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 05:45 PM

View PostBreach, on 19 July 2012 - 09:47 PM, said:

You can't buy skill.

you know i think you answered this thread perfectly big fancy mechs and weapons are all well and good but they wont make you a good player overnight.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:31 PM

View PostBrenden, on 20 July 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:

This isn't Battlefield, Steel, this is Battletech. Completely different game. Sure, when you buy Legendary you get your pick of the 'mechs, but they are the kinds that other people can make as well. The only difference I can see is the skin, which is a type of dark blue/grey and the Catapult's beak. Battlefield is for twitchers, Battletech is for those who enjoy tactical fighting.

i wasn;t comparing mwo with bf, i was comparing it to wot

#73 Dredhawk

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:35 PM

Were do people get this crap about WoT being pay to win Iv run gold ammo all day one day didn't help my win percentage....

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:39 PM

View PostStygian Steel, on 20 July 2012 - 08:31 PM, said:

i wasn;t comparing mwo with bf, i was comparing it to wot

In either case, I doubt this game will become Pay to win. Sure, with real world currency you can...
Pay for Decals and Stamps and images on your 'mech, I think from your own files.
Pay for special paintjobs
Pay for maybe a cool canopy cover
Pay for music to be played when you're kicking ***?

#75 Xathanael

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:44 PM

Dude why do people necessarily think that paid players are morons? I paid mucho dollars for WoT Gold and have enjoyed both premium and free tanks. I think there is an undercurrent of jealousy in some of these comments. Remember free to play games still need to keep the lights on. Somebody has to pay for lapdances for the big guy. I'm just saying... But then again I'll get flamed anyways.

#76 Brenden

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:47 PM

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:05 PM

I would like to note, that most people think wot is not pay to win game, when it actually is, see you don't just win in battle but as an account, for example if you don't get prem, you will never get past a tier 8 tank in a month, unless you basically have no life, which I do, and it took me roughly three weeks to get even close in EXP to getting a tier 8 tank, after tier 8, unless you pay for prem, unless you WIN EVERY GAME YOU GET IN IN THAT TANK, you start to lose credits, which after losing so many credits you are forced to ither sell that tank and down grade and continue to die. Or buy prem to support your tank, next all gold tanks have ungodly amount of EXP and Credit gain, so you can freaken die in a gold tank, and earn enough credits to support a small army, and get enough EXP to power your way down a tank line. I'm sorry to say but thats why World of tanks is a pay to win game. unless you pay, good luck getting the final tier tank and holding onto it.

#78 Powerax

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:13 PM

Ok games that are pay to win

Any game on Facebook
Any game on Aeria
Dungeons and dragons Online
Aeon
Everquest 2
League of legends.
World of tanks.
DC Universe
Sword girls
Age of conan
These are just off the top of my head, they all have in game spend money stores, some so you can get through the game with a require item, speical ammo, speical characters, speical weapons and armor (OPed too), spiecal cards, or even so you can access your money you saved up ingame.
I know most are say Pay to Win is like getting something another can't get without the money, but it extend beyond that when the game hampers you if you can not contune playing the game as orginally intended.
Only way it is True FtP is just have a cash shop with cool decals and models personally...

#79 Brenden

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:17 PM

View PostPowerax, on 20 July 2012 - 09:13 PM, said:

Ok games that are pay to win

Any game on Facebook
Any game on Aeria
Dungeons and dragons Online
Aeon
Everquest 2
League of legends.
World of tanks.
DC Universe
Sword girls
Age of conan
These are just off the top of my head, they all have in game spend money stores, some so you can get through the game with a require item, speical ammo, speical characters, speical weapons and armor (OPed too), spiecal cards, or even so you can access your money you saved up ingame.
I know most are say Pay to Win is like getting something another can't get without the money, but it extend beyond that when the game hampers you if you can not contune playing the game as orginally intended.
Only way it is True FtP is just have a cash shop with cool decals and models personally...

I wouldn't say models.. Unless you mean what I think you mean, then by that extention something like what they did with the founder's mechs, right? Beak on the Catapult?

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:18 PM

View PostPowerax, on 20 July 2012 - 09:13 PM, said:

Ok games that are pay to win

Any game on Facebook
Any game on Aeria
Dungeons and dragons Online
Aeon
Everquest 2
League of legends.
World of tanks.
DC Universe
Sword girls
Age of conan
These are just off the top of my head, they all have in game spend money stores, some so you can get through the game with a require item, speical ammo, speical characters, speical weapons and armor (OPed too), spiecal cards, or even so you can access your money you saved up ingame.
I know most are say Pay to Win is like getting something another can't get without the money, but it extend beyond that when the game hampers you if you can not contune playing the game as orginally intended.
Only way it is True FtP is just have a cash shop with cool decals and models personally...



I would kinda take off LoL simple to the fact that ALMOST (only thing you really can't buy with IP are bonus packs and boost) everything else you can buy with IP, which means that everything someone willing to get instantly, if a player works at it, can get it as well ^-^;



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