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[XX Sulla XX]

I am really looking forward to when I get a Crusader. Any one else wanting one? Hopefully in 2016.

[Lynx7725]

65 tonner missile boat. Sounds familiar?

They'd also have to do something about those leg weapon mounts.

[Revis Volek]

Pretty ugly rendition...

I prefer this one,
http://www.sarna.net...8L_Crusader.jpg

4 M, 2 E and 2 B should be something i can work with.

[Stelar 7]

The first pic is accurate to the original game. If they come out with a crusader phoenix hawk pack I well buy it.

[Palor]

A Nightstar would also be cool to see.

[Lynx7725]

DarthRevis, on 07 December 2015 - 06:44 PM, said:

Pretty ugly rendition...

Snort. That image is the original anime art that Battletech worked from. If anything, the Crusader is the blocky cousin...

One thing though, the head is wrong on that image. Is a VF-1A Cannon Fodder head on the Crusader.

End of day it's just a bit too similar to the Catapult. PGI may include it just to complete the release of the Phoenix/ Reseen/ SomeSeen, but with a rescale of the Catty coming up, the Crusader may not have much advantage over the Cat.

[Bishop Steiner]

Lynx7725, on 07 December 2015 - 06:40 PM, said:

65 tonner missile boat. Sounds familiar?

They'd also have to do something about those leg weapon mounts.

Leg weapons traditionally are placed in the adjoining torso. Already did it for the cicada.

Also, Humanoid usually means better hitboxes, and most variants also mount ballistics. So.... not that similar to the Catapult. And with some variants packing JJs, far more versatile than the Archer.

I'd still prefer a Phoenix Hawk, though.

[Lynx7725]

Bishop Steiner, on 07 December 2015 - 06:55 PM, said:

Leg weapons traditionally are placed in the adjoining torso. Already did it for the cicada.

Also, Humanoid usually means better hitboxes, and most variants also mount ballistics. So.... not that similar to the Catapult. And with some variants packing JJs, far more versatile than the Archer.

I'd still prefer a Phoenix Hawk, though.

PXH should be a priority; the medium lineup is getting stale, and need a shakeup. Same goes for Stingers, Wasps, Valks, and Ostscouts. Oh Ostscouts. I suspect if we dislike Spiders, Ostscouts might get additional hate.

And really, Indirect Fire mech. Getting seen is baaaaad. (Yes, in MWO forward fire support is good, but that's more late scrum than early days. In late scrum if you are doing it on your own it's baaaaad too. )

Having torso AND arm M mounts may be better than Cats. But essentially one will replace the other, and that's actually not a good thing from a variety perspective.

[El Bandito]

XX Sulla XX, on 07 December 2015 - 06:39 PM, said:

I am really looking forward to when I get a Crusader. Any one else wanting one? Hopefully in 2016.

Can't hear you over the incoming ARCHER!

[TheMadTypist]

Looks good. A bit confused by the sarna page. How's it able to put so many more tons into weapons than a catapult? It has more armor than the stock Cat, same engine, no Endo or Ferro, and yet it's rocking that sexy firepower advantage. Gotta be a downside somewhere, right?

Anyway, now that SRM's aren't as bad it'd be nice to have. I always like having additional 'mechs in game. It's supposed to be pretty common too, according to the sarna page.

[LordBraxton]

DarthRevis, on 07 December 2015 - 06:44 PM, said:

Pretty ugly rendition...

I prefer this one,
http://www.sarna.net...8L_Crusader.jpg

4 M, 2 E and 2 B should be something i can work with.

are you serious??!

I'm only 24 so I'm far too young to like the classic crusader for nostalgia reasons, but I really think the 'reseen' cursaders all look like total garbage compared to the original.

If the crusader doesnt have that classic veritech style head, and those cool pylons on his back, I wont be interested.

but I guess they cant please everyone eh?

EDIT: we need IS streak 4s and 6s to make the crusader and archer more relevant

Edited by LordBraxton, 07 December 2015 - 07:07 PM.

[Revis Volek]

LordBraxton, on 07 December 2015 - 07:06 PM, said:

are you serious??!

I'm only 24 so I'm far too young to like the classic crusader for nostalgia reasons, but I really think the 'reseen' cursaders all look like total garbage compared to the original.

If the crusader doesnt have that classic veritech style head, and those cool pylons on his back, I wont be interested.

but I guess they cant please everyone eh?

EDIT: we need IS streak 4s and 6s to make the crusader and archer more relevant

Thats the Anime one the mech was designed from as Lynx nerdily informed us.


The one i posted is more then likely what we will get...

and im not 50 if thats what you think, hell im 30 years young.

[LordBraxton]

DarthRevis, on 07 December 2015 - 07:12 PM, said:

Thats the Anime one the mech was designed from as Lynx nerdily informed us.


The one i posted is more then likely what we will get...

and im not 50 if thats what you think, hell im 30 years young.

I read ya, I was just saying I prefer the anime one to the redesign, sadly I know we will likely get the 'reseen' variant.

Who knows though, the MAD looks very 'reseen' while the whammy and rifleman look closer to the destroid origins

[Revis Volek]

LordBraxton, on 07 December 2015 - 07:13 PM, said:

I read ya, I was just saying I prefer the anime one to the redesign, sadly I know we will likely get the 'reseen' variant.

Who knows though, the MAD looks very 'reseen' while the whammy and rifleman look closer to the destroid origins

Archer is very much DESTROID like as well...

[Bishop Steiner]

would love to debate Crusader merits...but I'm a little distracted atm...

[Alan Davion]

TheMadTypist, on 07 December 2015 - 07:04 PM, said:

Looks good. A bit confused by the sarna page. How's it able to put so many more tons into weapons than a catapult? It has more armor than the stock Cat, same engine, no Endo or Ferro, and yet it's rocking that sexy firepower advantage. Gotta be a downside somewhere, right?

Anyway, now that SRM's aren't as bad it'd be nice to have. I always like having additional 'mechs in game. It's supposed to be pretty common too, according to the sarna page.

Downside being heat.

LRMS, SRMS and Lasers gonna push the heat up pretty quick.

[Revis Volek]

Bishop Steiner, on 07 December 2015 - 07:21 PM, said:

would love to debate Crusader merits...but I'm a little distracted atm...

OH my god its feet are glorious

[Bishop Steiner]

DarthRevis, on 07 December 2015 - 08:01 PM, said:

OH my god its feet are glorious

do wish it had bigger battlefists, but probably had to change em to get past HGs lawyers.

[KHETTI]

Bishop Steiner, on 07 December 2015 - 07:21 PM, said:

would love to debate Crusader merits...but I'm a little distracted atm...

Out of the 3 re-seens so far, the Archer is easily the best looking.
Edit: It even has knuckle dusters!.

Edited by KHETTI, 07 December 2015 - 08:05 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

KHETTI, on 07 December 2015 - 08:04 PM, said:

Out of the 3 re-seens so far, the Archer is easily the best looking.

4? MAD, WHM, RFL and ARC?

But yeah, do agree. The MAD, I'm not a fan of, visually (3R is fun to play though), and both the WHM and RFL have traits that people either love or hate. On the ARC, really my only gripe might be the fists are too small.... but that's something I can overlook.