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[Bishop Steiner]

Rattazustra, on 16 December 2015 - 12:38 PM, said:

Within the current system of the game, this mech is a game-breaker in multiple ways and a balancing nightmare for many future game adjustments. It is an exploit right out of the box.

not sure how.....

LRMs are hardly gamebreaking, and it's hitboxes (aka Dragons big brother/Mad Dogs cousin) don't bode well for SRM Brawler, so.......?

[Gas Guzzler]

Anyone else ready for an Unseen break after this? How about some more Clan Omni-mechs or something. There are still some tasty options that aren't in game yet.

[Bishop Steiner]

0bsidion, on 16 December 2015 - 12:48 PM, said:

Well, if there was any mech they would get away with slapping ECM on that was locked behind a paywall without the forums going up in flames, it would be a Locust. I mean come on, it's a 20 ton wet paper bag with pop guns and a race car engine.

*shrugs* not arguing that, just saying there is precedent... though I agree, if people had (and some did) started crying P2W about a locust? I think they were mostly laughed off the forums.

Here's the deal though. Even without another of the same chassis with it, there is enough Heavy Mechs with it, that it's not like you can really call it P2W. Still a skosh surprised, but it is what it is.

[Unreliable Mercenary]

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The archer was one of my favorite mechs. Not as awesome as the Warhammer, but still nice!

Edited by Owen Miller, 16 December 2015 - 12:53 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Gas Guzzler, on 16 December 2015 - 12:51 PM, said:

Anyone else ready for an Unseen break after this? How about some more Clan Omni-mechs or something. There are still some tasty options that aren't in game yet.

Yes and no.

If the next unseen is called "phoenix hawk" I'm all for another.

If not? Then yeah, moving on.....

[Mazzyplz]

3 ct hardpoints? NICE.
zombie all the way

fighting stick figures!

[Bishop Steiner]

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aaaaand another correction....
Advanced Sensor Range and Advance target decay

apparently some orderly copy pasted the Warhammer modules...and is being duly whipped by Tina with a handful of spaghetti.

Mazzyplz, on 16 December 2015 - 12:53 PM, said:

3 ct hardpoints? NICE.
zombie all the way

fighting stick figures!

can only use 2 at a time though. like pretty baby

[Gas Guzzler]

0bsidion, on 16 December 2015 - 12:48 PM, said:

Well, if there was any mech they would get away with slapping ECM on that was locked behind a paywall without the forums going up in flames, it would be a Locust. I mean come on, it's a 20 ton wet paper bag with pop guns and a race car engine.

The other thing to keep in mind, is now that quirks are a thing, most of the time the only reason those mechs are taken are for the ECM. Usually ECM mechs get very poor quirks, as I suspect this thing will. Just because a hero is unique doesn't make it "P2W".

Its like if they decided to add Jump Jets to the La Malinche. Yeah, no other Banshees have them, but who cares, its a La Malinche.

[Bishop Steiner]

Wondering how Sherman Camo will look on these beauties......

[Roadkill]

W build with 6 SSRM-2, 2 LRM-5, 1 LRM-10, 10 tons of assorted ammo, and BAP. 340 XL.

LRMs are to bait some poor Light into thinking you are an LRM boat, but can also do decent damage in a support role. SSRMs are for brawling and capitalizing on those over-aggressive Lights.

[Mazzyplz]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 December 2015 - 12:54 PM, said:

can only use 2 at a time though. like pretty baby

ahhh... and it doesn't have a head hardpoint so the 9m is a better stick than this
oh well. aws9m 4lyf

[Bishop Steiner]

Gas Guzzler, on 16 December 2015 - 12:56 PM, said:

The other thing to keep in mind, is now that quirks are a thing, most of the time the only reason those mechs are taken are for the ECM. Usually ECM mechs get very poor quirks, as I suspect this thing will. Just because a hero is unique doesn't make it "P2W".

Its like if they decided to add Jump Jets to the La Malinche. Yeah, no other Banshees have them, but who cares, its a La Malinche.

La Malinche is beast...never understood why people can't use her... 380xl, 3LPL and an ac10? A little less so now that she aint' quite as agile, but still like mine a lot.... (would like her even more with working JJ.... though where would I get the tonnage?)

[cSand]

This mech is maybe the most interesting mech so far in terms of hardpoints.

I wish it had JJs but I'll take it.


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[0bsidion]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 December 2015 - 12:52 PM, said:

Yes and no.

If the next unseen is called "phoenix hawk" I'm all for another.

If not? Then yeah, moving on.....

I've been saying the same thing since the Warhammer. Stop with the heavies already, PGI, you're going to break the heavy queue forever! Plus the Phoenix Hawk is one of my favorites anyway.

Actually though, I think the Origins pack saved us after the MAD. But after that? We're getting 3 heavies in a row. It's not gonna be pretty.

[Khobai]

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Really puts the Catapults to shame.
Makes me wish they gave it more hardpoints.

RIP Catapult

whats the point of wasting time rescaling the catapult

if the archer is just going to replace it entirely?

[Gas Guzzler]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 December 2015 - 12:59 PM, said:

La Malinche is beast...never understood why people can't use her... 380xl, 3LPL and an ac10? A little less so now that she aint' quite as agile, but still like mine a lot.... (would like her even more with working JJ.... though where would I get the tonnage?)

I don't know, i think its the knuckle dragging hardpoints combined with how far they are spread apart just makes it meh. Its hard to poke anywhere, you basically have to expose most of the mech to use all of your guns. You probably don't see it often because its the second most expensive hero in the game and its not that good, has no "wow" factor or anything to make it unique, other than LPL quirks.

[Mazzyplz]

Khobai, on 16 December 2015 - 01:01 PM, said:

RIP Catapult

whats the point of wasting time rescaling the catapult

if the archer is just going to replace it entirely?

we gonna have to ask for a requirk for the pult.

[Gas Guzzler]

Khobai, on 16 December 2015 - 01:01 PM, said:

RIP Catapult

whats the point of wasting time rescaling the catapult

if the archer is just going to replace it entirely?

The Catapult is probably going to run XL engines better than the Archer, so there is that. And JJs. And if the rescale goes well then it will probably be overall more tanky and agile.

[Sevronis]

Mawai, on 16 December 2015 - 12:28 PM, said:

Interesting mechs ...

1) Will folks cry pay to win because the hero is the only one with ECM?

People will cry P2W regardless when it comes to anything in a F2P format bought with real money. Thing is, nothing in MWO is even P2W. Real P2W is when you buy OP items to have almost an unstoppable advantage. On here, you may buy these mechs with real money, but will still take your skill as a pilot to actually use them successfully. True P2W has no skill involved.

[FupDup]

Why didn't they learn from the AWS-9M that having more than 2 CT hardpoints is less effective than putting those hardpoints anywhere else, because you can literally never use all of them?

If only we had Compact Gyro to make use of them...

Edited by FupDup, 16 December 2015 - 01:08 PM.