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[cSand]

CPLT is also getting rescaled so wait and see how that pans out.

If they take off the duct-taped on VCRs...

Cat isn't even that bad now that the boxes were adjusted.

[Joseph Mallan]

Gamuray, on 16 December 2015 - 12:19 PM, said:

That Archer ARC-5W though.
Wow missles!
I mean, 9 missiles hardpoints. My gosh that is going to be one HECK of an LRM/SRM boat!

Its an Archer good sir. Its supposed to have, "Wow missles!"

[Xenon Codex]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 December 2015 - 12:54 PM, said:

can only use 2 at a time though. like pretty baby

I think you mean the AWS-9M. But what about the Head slot, might they be considering it part of the CT?

[Crotch RockIt]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 December 2015 - 12:54 PM, said:

apparently some orderly copy pasted the Warhammer modules...and is being duly whipped by Tina with a handful of spaghetti.

Am I the only one who thinks this sounds like a good time?

Edited by Crotch RockIt, 16 December 2015 - 01:08 PM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Crotch RockIt, on 16 December 2015 - 01:07 PM, said:

Am I the only one who thinks this sounds like a good time?

I doubt it.

[Thomas G Wolf]

As commander of the Wulfen´s Dragoons I just had to buy this there was NO way around it.

[Bishop Steiner]

Gas Guzzler, on 16 December 2015 - 01:02 PM, said:

I don't know, i think its the knuckle dragging hardpoints combined with how far they are spread apart just makes it meh. Its hard to poke anywhere, you basically have to expose most of the mech to use all of your guns. You probably don't see it often because its the second most expensive hero in the game and its not that good, has no "wow" factor or anything to make it unique, other than LPL quirks.

not my fault most people are scared to brawl. Once the peektart stalemate breaks, I find I usually can rapewubshees with it.

FupDup, on 16 December 2015 - 01:05 PM, said:

Why didn't they learn from the AWS-9M that having more than 2 CT hardpoints is less effective than putting those hardpoints anywhere else, because you can literally never use all of them?

If only we had Compact Gyro to make use of them...

cuz it's an either or sort of thing? Options?

Joseph Mallan, on 16 December 2015 - 01:06 PM, said:

Its an Archer good sir. Its supposed to have, "Wow missles!"

holy crap Joe Mallon AND Bryan Ekman spotted on the same day!?!?!?!?!

Hey.... wait a second.....
(starts photoshopping bad hair onto Mallon's Melon........)

[Scout Derek]

And you guys said the Archer was bad...

plus, now I can buy this mech with no bad thoughts on my subconscious!

[Bishop Steiner]

Xenon Codex, on 16 December 2015 - 01:07 PM, said:

I think you mean the AWS-9M. But what about the Head slot, might they be considering it part of the CT?

might could... haven't touched either in so long, they all blend together. Only one I use is my 8Q.

[Barantor]

gh0s7m3rc, on 16 December 2015 - 01:18 PM, said:

No, we need the "Phoenix Pack II" - Valkyrie (30t) + Phoenix Hawk (45t) + Crusader (65t) + Longbow (85t).

Really, it would make sense. These 4 Unseens aren't in a pack, so we Spheroids need a pack. After that, sure, another clan pack.

But, first, I really really want the PXH!
PXH-1, PXH-2, and either PXH-1K or 3K, for having a variant without Jump Jets. No idea about the Hero, though; from Sarna.net, the 3M Masters and 4L Sante are both ahead in the timeline.
*shrugs*

PXH-1b with ECM and a different hardpoint configuration could fit the 'hero' variant of it.

Sounds like a good pack to me, maybe a "reinforcement" for it too with the wasp and stinger.

[Bishop Steiner]

Scout Derek, on 16 December 2015 - 01:22 PM, said:

And you guys said the Archer was bad...

plus, now I can buy this mech with no bad thoughts on my subconscious!

No. Most of us said the Crusader was more versatile for a missile boat. (Ballistics and JJs?)

Still is.

[Big Tin Man]

Joseph Mallan, on 16 December 2015 - 01:06 PM, said:

Its an Archer good sir. Its supposed to have, "Wow missles!"

Why do I see archers with 9xLRM5 chainfiring for---ev---er in the future?

And FWIW, the best I can come up with for troll theory is a max of 110 tubes (7xlrm 15 + 1x lrm 5, XL140, 5 SHS, 0 armor, 3.5 tons ammo, 11 open slots).

Edit: you can get 115 tubes with STD140, 7 x lrm 15, 2 x lrm 5, STD 140, endo, 5 shs, 0 armor, 3.5 tons ammo.

Edited by Big Tin Man, 16 December 2015 - 01:30 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

gh0s7m3rc, on 16 December 2015 - 01:18 PM, said:

No, we need the "Phoenix Pack II" - Valkyrie (30t) + Phoenix Hawk (45t) + Crusader (65t) + Longbow (85t).

Really, it would make sense. These 4 Unseens aren't in a pack, so we Spheroids need a pack. After that, sure, another clan pack.

But, first, I really really want the PXH!
PXH-1, PXH-2, and either PXH-1K or 3K, for having a variant without Jump Jets. No idea about the Hero, though; from Sarna.net, the 3M Masters and 4L Sante are both ahead in the timeline.
*shrugs*

can I get a "twofor" of the Wasp/Stinger instead of the VLQ?

[Gas Guzzler]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 December 2015 - 01:21 PM, said:

not my fault most people are scared to brawl. Once the peektart stalemate breaks, I find I usually can rapewubshees with it.

Hardly, but if you can do damage before the brawl ensues that is only a benefit.

[Bishop Steiner]

Big Tin Man, on 16 December 2015 - 01:23 PM, said:

Why do I see archers with 9xLRM5 chainfiring for---ev---er in the future?

And FWIW, the best I can come up with for troll theory is a max of 110 tubes (7xlrm 15 + 1x lrm 5, XL140, 5 SHS, 0 armor, 3.5 tons ammo, 11 open slots).

isn't 6 with cooldown enough to reset anyhow?

Barantor, on 16 December 2015 - 01:23 PM, said:

PXH-1b with ECM and a different hardpoint configuration could fit the 'hero' variant of it.

Sounds like a good pack to me, maybe a "reinforcement" for it too with the wasp and stinger.

really hate wasting a production build on a Hero

[Scout Derek]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 December 2015 - 01:23 PM, said:

No. Most of us said the Crusader was more versatile for a missile boat. (Ballistics and JJs?)

Still is.

Why Ballistics? I don't mean to be rude, but IS mechs absolutely suck with boom boom stuff unless they're quirked exquisitely, or have enough tonnage to really get them going good.

I for one, welcome our new Lurm God the ARC-5W that can slap on just about all the missiles.

Gunna look weird with lrm 20s in those arms...

Edited by Scout Derek, 16 December 2015 - 01:28 PM.

[DarthHias]

So from a lore perspective I welcome ECM on an Archer Hero Mech.
Well from the game balance... I don´t think it will be important enough to cry P2W honestly. I was hyped about my Locust-PB (Peanut Butter as we locust fanatics enthusiasts call her) but well, I prefer the other Locusts.

Also sadly missile weapons still are not that powerfull, though the latest change especially made SRMS much better, so again it won´t be a problem.

The Mech itself looks reaaalllyyy good. BUT I will hold on to my principle and won´t shell out money for a Heavy.
Phoenix Hawk? Wasp? Stinger? yeah. (Lights gotta be cheaper they are not as heavy )

[Gas Guzzler]

DarthHias, on 16 December 2015 - 01:28 PM, said:

So from a lore perspective I welcome ECM on an Archer Hero Mech.
Well from the game balance... I don´t think it will be important enough to cry P2W honestly. I was hyped about my Locust-PB (Peanut Butter as we locust fanatics enthusiasts call her) but well, I prefer the other Locusts.

Also sadly missile weapons still are not that powerfull, though the latest change especially made SRMS much better, so again it won´t be a problem.

The Mech itself looks reaaalllyyy good. BUT I will hold on to my principle and won´t shell out money for a Heavy.
Phoenix Hawk? Wasp? Stinger? yeah. (Lights gotta be cheaper they are not as heavy )

If you assume that the cost of these packs varies linearly with mech tonnage, you can extrapolate the curve between the Marauder and the Rifleman to determine the cost of the other mech packs. Using this method, the Phoenix Hawk/Wasp/Stinger will cost $20 (standard), $40 (collector's), and then +$15 for the hero.

[cSand]

DarthHias, on 16 December 2015 - 01:28 PM, said:

So from a lore perspective I welcome ECM on an Archer Hero Mech.
Well from the game balance... I don´t think it will be important enough to cry P2W honestly. I was hyped about my Locust-PB (Peanut Butter as we locust fanatics enthusiasts call her) but well, I prefer the other Locusts.

Also sadly missile weapons still are not that powerfull, though the latest change especially made SRMS much better, so again it won´t be a problem.

The Mech itself looks reaaalllyyy good. BUT I will hold on to my principle and won´t shell out money for a Heavy.
Phoenix Hawk? Wasp? Stinger? yeah. (Lights gotta be cheaper they are not as heavy )

yea, especially with the ECM nerfs, it's hardly P2W at all

people who cry P2W will pretty much cry the same about anything in the game


P2-early access doesn't = P2win

Edited by cSand, 16 December 2015 - 01:34 PM.

[Barantor]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 December 2015 - 01:26 PM, said:

really hate wasting a production build on a Hero

Royal Variants are pretty super rare by the time 3050 rolls around was my thought. That or Sir Paul Masters variant called "The White Knight" with a white and gold paint job and different hardpoints, or ones similar to the Royal Variant since he and Thomas Marik were buddy-buddy.