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[KahnWongFuChung]

I cant tell you how frustrating it is waiting for a assault match to finish the challenge and after hours all that comes up is skirmish skirmish skirmish over and over again mixed in with a few Conquest games.

If PGI has a brain they will look at the MM stats and just deep 6 the voting garbage and go back to a simple map and game mode rotation system or back to what we had before where I could pick assault mode and finish my challenge.

Russ PGI quit being stupid and stubborn and get rid of the crappy vote system.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Voting results have been different for everyone. Some people say they get things equally, others say they only ever get assault, you are saying you almost never get assault.

I don't know what to tell you.

[Event Horizon IX]

I like the voting system, a lot, for the fact that I get a rather varied combination of match and map modes.

Basically the opposite of what you've been getting.

[DAYLEET]

Dakota1000, on 21 December 2015 - 08:51 AM, said:

Voting results have been different for everyone. Some people say they get things equally, others say they only ever get assault, you are saying you almost never get assault.

I don't know what to tell you.

The voting system is not a problem for me anymore, i made peace with the fact some people don;t want to be there with me on Conquest or Assault and will not participate in any meaningful manner.

Im just waiting to see what other choices in game they will remove when the player base has bleeded enough to nullify the voting benefits. Make your bets! chassis weight? Adding CW in the voting queue? Exciting!

[Moldur]

The multipliers are the part that I don't like.

Oh what's that, everyone should get their pick, even when it's basically one dude sabotaging Everyone else?

mmmmhm, got it.

[WarHippy]

Agreed. We need the voting nonsense gone.

[KodiakGW]

They made the mistake of having to win a specific game mode choice be a condition for 1 Day Premium time. Probably would have been better to just make it 5 or more wins any game mode.

What needs to change is removing the ability to switch vote. Too many map/mode vote multiplier padders changing their vote at the last second. Set it so when you click your vote in, it is locked. If there are too many complaints about accidentally clicking the wrong thing, allow to remove vote. But, not allow them to vote again that round. Lesson for everyone to pick the mode and map you really want to play, and stop playing it like a mini game.

That way, PGI can figure out which maps and modes the community really likes, and stops the trolls from choosing the worst map/mode combination when they padded enough to multiplier votes.

[Herr Vorragend]

At least we need the gamemode-toggle back and map-voting should be invincible and not changable.
That´s the only way beside going back to random maps.

[cSand]

Oh no people don't vote my way all the time

[Grimlox]

I'm pretty sure the voting system was put into place to help the matchmaker. Instead of having only a fraction of the playerbase queuing up for a single game type and trying to put together a decent match it now can draw on the combination of all 3 modes queuing up and put together better matches. The population just isn't there to go back to 3 separate modes and have any decent matches.

[Joe Mallad]

I don't mind it most nights. But I also would like to play on all maps and all modes on some nights and some just constantly get skipped. And when we have events where you need to play on a certain game mode so many times and win like the personal challenges we had in this event, I should have to fight the crowd with votes to MAYBE get he game mode I need.

The cold maps seems to get picked the most because people don't want to deal with hot maps and the extra heat. I love in CW that we have to play on whatever map comes up and deal with it.

[Joe Mallad]

Grimlox, on 21 December 2015 - 09:19 AM, said:

I'm pretty sure the voting system was put into place to help the matchmaker. Instead of having only a fraction of the playerbase queuing up for a single game type and trying to put together a decent match it now can draw on the combination of all 3 modes queuing up and put together better matches. The population just isn't there to go back to 3 separate modes and have any decent matches.

well than they need to make it just 1 vote for map and 1 for game mode. Get rid of this stacking up votes BS if you don't get what you voted for. People are actually waiting till the last few second to see what is not being picked and than voting on what won't be picked, just to gain extra votes for the maps and game modes they really want to play and than forcing the vote with X8 votes.

Vote 1 time and hats it is how it should be.

Edited by Yoseful Mallad, 21 December 2015 - 09:26 AM.

[vandalhooch]

KahnWongFuChung, on 21 December 2015 - 08:49 AM, said:

I cant tell you how frustrating it is waiting for a assault match to finish the challenge and after hours all that comes up is skirmish skirmish skirmish over and over again mixed in with a few Conquest games.

Given how the multiplier works, what you describe is impossible, unless you are an idiot.

Vote for assault when it comes up. Lose the vote; get a multiplier. If assault is not one of the choices, DON'T VOTE FOR A MODE AND SAVE YOUR MULTIPLIER!

Eventually, you are guaranteed to get assault.

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If PGI has a brain they will look at the MM stats and just deep 6 the voting garbage and go back to a simple map and game mode rotation system or back to what we had before where I could pick assault mode and finish my challenge.

Russ PGI quit being stupid and stubborn and get rid of the crappy vote system.

[CDLord HHGD]

This is EASY to compensate for...

If you see your map or mode, VOTE. If you don't get it, you get a multiplier.
If your map or mode is not an option, DON'T VOTE! You will not lose your multiplier.
Eventually, you WILL get your map or mode. It'll either get voted for or your multiplier will get high enough and force it.

[Almond Brown]

Like everything else around here PGI tried the "random" mode select option and the Hissy Fits outweighed any reasonable response by the Community so they rescinded it and are now trying a Vote based system.

The reasons for the Vote system have been explained and yet the hissy fits continue. So "No" to random modes and now No to a Vote system. Wtf is PGI supposed to do now. Put in 3 different game/mode selection Options so that every hissy fitter can have their own?

Being only concerned about "yourself" and what "you" want is great and all but what about the other 56 players of MWO?..

[Joe Mallad]

vandalhooch, on 21 December 2015 - 09:26 AM, said:

Given how the multiplier works, what you describe is impossible, unless you are an idiot.

Vote for assault when it comes up. Lose the vote; get a multiplier. If assault is not one of the choices, DON'T VOTE FOR A MODE AND SAVE YOUR MULTIPLIER!

Eventually, you are guaranteed to get assault.

eventually is the key word. Maine of us don't have all day or night to wait on EVENTUALLY to come around. I work and am an family man so I only get a few hours a few days a week to play right now. I don't want to waste most of hat few hours TRYING to get into a game mode I need to win on to complete my challenges.

[Joe Mallad]

Almond Brown, on 21 December 2015 - 09:29 AM, said:

Like everything else around here PGI tried the "random" mode select option and the Hissy Fits outweighed any reasonable response by the Community so they rescinded it and are now trying a Vote based system.

The reasons for the Vote system have been explained and yet the hissy fits continue. So "No" to random modes and now No to a Vote system. Wtf is PGI supposed to do now. Put in 3 different game/mode selection Options so that every hissy fitter can have their own?

Being only concerned about "yourself" and what "you" want is great and all but what about the other 56 players of MWO?..

as I've pointed out, the voting system is ok but stacking votes has to go. Let us have our 1 vote per game mode and map and that's it. You either cast your 1 vote or you don't. But you should not be allows to stack votes as is allowed now.

[Tordin]

Map voting needs to get stuffed and kicked out the door.
All maps should get equal playtime. Too many people are scared of Terra Terma for example, though its weird that the almost as hot map, Tourmaline Desert gets picked more often.

Gamemodes? Much more important that the most useful and fun ones get upvoted. "Dosent that count for maps as well?" Well the maps are slowly getting redone, not much problems with them, really.

The game modes are pretty shallow. It was kinda a mistake and the bigger of two evils to remove turrets from Assault. Conquest is... resonable, though it could be spiced up with upcoming A.I possibilities along with turrets.

[DAYLEET]

Almond Brown, on 21 December 2015 - 09:29 AM, said:

Like everything else around here PGI tried the "random" mode select option and the Hissy Fits outweighed any reasonable response by the Community so they rescinded it and are now trying a Vote based system.

The reasons for the Vote system have been explained and yet the hissy fits continue. So "No" to random modes and now No to a Vote system. Wtf is PGI supposed to do now. Put in 3 different game/mode selection Options so that every hissy fitter can have their own?

Being only concerned about "yourself" and what "you" want is great and all but what about the other 56 players of MWO?..

The voting was implemented because of the hissyfit on waiting time, not he random map drop. No one was bitching about random map system. And it was explecitly said that the voting would lower the waiting time. Tis all bout the waiting time.

[Bud Crue]

I used to think the voting system was at least OK, but certainly not necessarily a bad thing. I've sort of changed my view because the system really discourages you from taking map specific builds since you are unlikely to get the map you want as a choice, let alone the map that gets selected. As a result I have literally dozens (perhaps scores) of mechs that I do not play much anymore. With the current system you are forced to run fairly general builds or really risk the match.

Example: played maybe 6 public matches yesterday. Noted that for several drops in a row Alpine and Frozen City were nearly always 2 of the four. Since one of them nearly always won the vote, I decided to take my White (Black) Knight with 4 ERLL out for a spin. Next match came up and no cold or open map in site. Terra Therma won the vote. Sigh.
Take a short range build, you get Alpine. Take a fast mech with a cap accelerator (yes I run one occasionally), you get Skirmish, etc.

I realize this is a petty grievance. I don't normally mind the voting system, but when trying to master a specialized build it really ups the feeling of an unpleasant grind.

What I would like maybe a 20 second window during the count down or more preferably after the map is selected, during which to select the mech you want to run.