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[DjPush]

FU! I'm in a 100 ton mech going 56Kph.

[Valdherre Tor]

bigger engine = problem solved

[Piney II]

It sucks when the team leaves you high and dry for light bait as they drag race from spawn.

The big guys have the much needed big firepower and I always try to escort them. .

Edited by Piney, 22 December 2015 - 06:49 AM.

[Weeny Machine]

Assaults, the special kids of MWO.

"Mommy, don't leave me alone"

"Boys, I don't want to go this way, not yours" --later---you ******* got me killed [Random Rant]

"I am allowed to position my assault mech behind your light/medium mech. It is no fault that you couldn't back up and eat all those alphas. You are the light/medium mech who has to walk around me because I am slow"

"You light mech ******* killed me from behind. Lights are OP! Nerf them. And we want more speed and turnin like prima ballerinas (read: like heavy mechs)"

Edited by Bush Hopper, 22 December 2015 - 06:50 AM.

[Alistair Winter]

Ah, another thread about assault mechs getting left behind.

It's a story that never ceases to be relevant. Like treachery, lust for power or forbidden love between cousins.

Edited by Alistair Winter, 22 December 2015 - 06:52 AM.

[KinLuu]

If you get left behind in an assault, you get rekt. So it is your very own interest to not get left behind.

[Lily from animove]

always escort your fatties, thats the most simple rule to keep your team together. Unless you have a stock urby within your team.

[Super Trooper]

Valdherre Tor, on 22 December 2015 - 06:44 AM, said:

bigger engine = problem solved

Do tell how to put a bigger engine in a Direwolf?

[KinLuu]

Super Trooper, on 22 December 2015 - 07:01 AM, said:

Do tell how to put a bigger engine in a Direwolf?

Since the skill tree nerfs, only masochists play dires in solo queue.

[Mergatroid Skittle]

Say something in chat or voice before you get left behind.

Edited by Mergatroid Skittle, 22 December 2015 - 07:10 AM.

[Tarogato]

Super Trooper, on 22 December 2015 - 07:01 AM, said:

Do tell how to put a bigger engine in a Direwolf?

Swap it out for a Mauler.

[Innocent]

I was in a team yesterday where we had nascar complainers. Our mech out front was an atlas who told everybody if he was in the lead going 56 kph everyone else was doing it wrong. hilarious, we won he had top damage.

[Khobai]

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bigger engine = problem solved

dire wolf has locked engine. derpa derp derp.

what would fix this **** is if they added respawns to the game. the one-life gamemodes are the whole problem. they cause deathballing/nascaring/repetitive boring play. No one is willing to take risks or do anything differently because they only get one life. So the game ends up being repetitive and boring.

even world of tanks has respawns now because they realized one-life gamemodes cause huge problems. MWO needs a ticket-based gamemode like battlefield's conquest gamemode.

Basically... have two bases and three capture points. Both teams start with like 8000 tickets and when a mech on your team dies you lose tickets equal to its tonnage and they get to respawn. Capping the points would bleed the enemy team of tickets. First team to run out of tickets loses. And also destroying the enemy base would win you the game outright. Having base destruction as a win condition allows for upsets since the losing team can still win the game by pushing the enemy base.

Edited by Khobai, 22 December 2015 - 07:25 AM.

[Lily from animove]

Innocent, on 22 December 2015 - 07:14 AM, said:

I was in a team yesterday where we had nascar complainers. Our mech out front was an atlas who told everybody if he was in the lead going 56 kph everyone else was doing it wrong. hilarious, we won he had top damage.

Well, if the atlas can outrun you in a Nascar battle you truly do somethign wrong if you are not in an Direwolf.

[Baron Von Hunchback]

Super Trooper, on 22 December 2015 - 07:01 AM, said:

Do tell how to put a bigger engine in a Direwolf?

Why would you run a slow clan mech?

[KingRock]

I don't get the hate for assault pilots legitimately asking not to be left behind. I carry more firepower in my dire whale than the whole light Lance. It's in your best interests to support me with ecm and keep locusts from chewing my rear CT out. However, assault pilots need to understand that it's a 2 way street. In return for that lovely escort it's your responsibility to lead the charge and use that 200+ points of frontal armour to soak damage for your team, and return fire with as much ferocity as you can. Assaults being stranded (especially on maps like caustic/tourmaline) is just as bad as assaults staring at you in your storm crow waiting for you to be first into the fight. Find your fatties, go where they go, stay behind to the sides and reap the rewards

[MrJeffers]

A simple 'Form up on the assault lance' in chat at the beginning of the match usually works wonders.

[Rhaythe]

If you're constantly getting left behind in your 100-ton mech going 56kph, a 100-ton mech going 56kph might not be for you.

[Khobai]

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I carry more firepower in my dire whale than the whole light Lance.

Except assaults still carry the same firepower potential as a fast heavy because theyre subject to the same heat brick wall as said heavy. Because external DHS are so garbage that assaults cant gain a decent dissipation/capacity advantage over heavies.

So theres no reason to play an assault instead of a fast heavy. since smaller hitboxes and much faster speed/agility gives you way better survivability than a couple points of extra armor. Assaults are basically obsolete now after all the nerfs.

Thats part of the problem. heavies are the best weight class outright. the other part of the problem is the !@#$ gamemodes. Game needs to promote better role warfare by having a respawn gamemode that requires all four weight classes in order to win. heavy mechs should not be able to win without the other weight classes.

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If you're constantly getting left behind in your 100-ton mech going 56kph, a 100-ton mech going 56kph might not be for you.

52kph. And the problem is PGI never stopped and considered "gee we have mechs that go 52kph". They didnt even implement code where the slowest mechs spawn closest to the center... which wouldve made sense. At least that wouldve been a stopgap measure until they added better gamemodes.

Edited by Khobai, 22 December 2015 - 07:39 AM.

[Khereg]

KinLuu, on 22 December 2015 - 07:03 AM, said:

Since the skill tree nerfs, only masochists play dires in solo queue.

<raises hand>

<self-flagellates>

In all seriousness, I know what could happen when I drop in a dire wolf. All you can do is laugh when it does happen, though. Even in solo queue, players who understand teamwork won't let an assault be left behind. By the same token, if the nascar starts on a map like caustic, a good assault pilot knows when its time to take a calculated risk and cut the circle. As with most issues, there's two sides to it.

If you're going top drop a dire wolf in solo queue, my advice would be to know the maps and the likely movement of the teams well enough to economize your movement and get to the likely engagement spots. Teams can still outrun you or do something unexpected, leaving you isolated, but those are the risks.

VOIP/chat can actually help if it's used. I frequently see QQ from an assault pilot who never made an attempt to warn his team he was getting isolated. I've seen teams ignore assault pilots who made the call, also.

Pug life, yo.

Edited by Khereg, 22 December 2015 - 07:37 AM.