23 replies to this topic

[Green Mamba]

That way everyone who wants to play conquest with other players can do so without forcing those of us who only want to play Assault/Skirmish with others who feel the same.Thank you.

[MechWarrior3671771]

Not enough players left to go back to the old method.

And Skirmish bores me.

But I'm willing to share. I grudgingly play Skirmish so that others will return the courtesy when I want Conquest.

[Bonger Bob]

steam was supposed to solve the players number problem, i agree give back mode select, id rather wait longer for a round id enjoy to play.

[Alistair Winter]

Just update / replace / change the game modes. Why are we still keeping them? In 3 years, the only thing that has happened to Assault is:

• Changed spawn positions
  
• Added turrets
  
• Removed turrets

Instead of forcing people to play game modes they don't like, why not do something about the game modes? How hard is it really?

[1Grimbane]

yeah how about map select as well as the old mode select back... the new voting (and all that coding) is g.ay and r.etarded

[Dahkoht]

Bonger Bob, on 30 December 2015 - 05:52 PM, said:

steam was supposed to solve the players number problem, i agree give back mode select, id rather wait longer for a round id enjoy to play.

Very much this.

The selection screen let you manage this , if you wanted only conquest you picked only conquest , if you wanted fast match you picked everything.

I'll take only picking what I want to play , and waiting longer , any day than playing the modes I hate , especially in solo queue.

[Green Mamba]

Well Supply and demand doesn't allow for forcing people to play modes they don't want to play and will drive people off eventually and the game will Perish.

[Deathlike]

Alistair Winter, on 30 December 2015 - 05:57 PM, said:

Just update / replace / change the game modes. Why are we still keeping them? In 3 years, the only thing that has happened to Assault is:

• Changed spawn positions
  
• Added turrets
  
• Removed turrets

Instead of forcing people to play game modes they don't like, why not do something about the game modes? How hard is it really?

It takes 1 year to get one new mode. Clearly, it's too hard.

Edited by Deathlike, 30 December 2015 - 06:34 PM.

[Mawai]

Bonger Bob, on 30 December 2015 - 05:52 PM, said:

steam was supposed to solve the players number problem, i agree give back mode select, id rather wait longer for a round id enjoy to play.

No. Steam was never expected to "solve" the player number "problem". It might result in an influx of new players but MechWarrior games are always a niche.

What's more ... game mode selection makes it impossible to add more game modes without further splitting the player base.

They added the regional servers which split the player base. They retain, solo, group and CW queues which also split the player base. As much as you might like or dislike certain game modes ... continuing to split the player base even further is just a bad idea in terms of both matchmaking and overall player experience.

(P.S. I don't really like conquest that much personally either but I will play it when it comes up. I also agree with Alistair ... they really need to refresh the game modes even if it means using random spawn points and varying base locations on each map ... this would at least give substantially more variety with a limited investment of resources.)

Edited by Mawai, 30 December 2015 - 06:35 PM.

[Bonger Bob]

Green Mamba, on 30 December 2015 - 06:24 PM, said:

Well Supply and demand doesn't allow for forcing people to play modes they don't want to play and will drive people off eventually and the game will Perish.

nah, they have new players to churn through with steam now, fresh people to piss-off until the next fad hits steam users.
either way i guess this can only be positive, it would mean the IP can be picked up by a competent programming group.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Especially since its bannable to suicide/DC

At least give me the option to vote out of the damn thing

[Green Mamba]

Bonger Bob, on 30 December 2015 - 06:35 PM, said:

nah, they have new players to churn through with steam now, fresh people to piss-off until the next fad hits steam users.
either way i guess this can only be positive, it would mean the IP can be picked up by a competent programming group.

http://steamcharts.com/app/342200 currently 2700 steam players ,so I am not sure what PGIs break point is on player base keep the game going

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Fen Tetsudo, on 30 December 2015 - 05:46 PM, said:

Not enough players left to go back to the old method.

Before Steam this may have been true. Now, thats a purely ******** excuse.



Even in CW there are literally hundreds of ppl - at least four hundred just in this pic

Alistair Winter, on 30 December 2015 - 05:57 PM, said:

Just update / replace / change the game modes. Why are we still keeping them? In 3 years, the only thing that has happened to Assault is:

• Changed spawn positions
  
• Added turrets
  
• Removed turrets

Instead of forcing people to play game modes they don't like, why not do something about the game modes? How hard is it really?

It isnt something they can directy monetize. So for PGI that means its impossible.

1Grimbane, on 30 December 2015 - 06:00 PM, said:

yeah how about map select as well as the old mode select back...

Nah, we dont have the technology to have nav computers that dont explode and cause dropships to crash as soon as they hit orbit ala:



as an aside, youd think replacing the dropships would get expensive. Maybe thats why they scrapped the idea of us being able to buy them

[MechWarrior3671771]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 30 December 2015 - 06:47 PM, said:

Before Steam this may have been true. Now, thats a purely ******** excuse.

Even in CW there are literally hundreds of ppl - at least four hundred just in this pic

I disagree. Relook at those numbers after the event is over and after Steam settles.

And hey, I would love to see mode selection come back. I'm willing to wait 5 mins more for Conquest. I just don't see it happening unless MWO stabilizes a significant influx of players from Steam. And as we speak, the Steamer pugs are being spawncamped in CW. I doubt they will have the patience for it that we do.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Fen Tetsudo, on 30 December 2015 - 07:38 PM, said:

I disagree. Relook at those numbers after the event is over and after Steam settles.

And hey, I would love to see mode selection come back. I'm willing to wait 5 mins more for Conquest. I just don't see it happening unless MWO stabilizes a significant influx of players from Steam. And as we speak, the Steamer pugs are being spawncamped in CW. I doubt they will have the patience for it that we do.

youd think the units that love this game so much theyd be more lenient on that **** cause all theyre doing is killing the game by putting the new players off it.

[spectralthundr]

Fen Tetsudo, on 30 December 2015 - 05:46 PM, said:

Not enough players left to go back to the old method.

And Skirmish bores me.

But I'm willing to share. I grudgingly play Skirmish so that others will return the courtesy when I want Conquest.

That's a bunch of baloney. There's always been enough players to support game mode selections being separate from the map vote screen. Or was there long wait times for conquest players? Because I never had long wait times ever for Assault or Skirmish prior to the new selection implementation.

If I wanted to play run around and sit in the box I'd not be playing mech that's for sure.

Edited by spectralthundr, 30 December 2015 - 09:27 PM.

[PlagueBones]

Personally, I like the map voting. I think it's great that they allow us to vote. However, I can't stand Conquest mode & as long as I can't choose not to play it, I won't be spending another dime on this game.

[Felicitatem Parco]

Green Mamba, on 30 December 2015 - 05:43 PM, said:

That way everyone who wants to play conquest with other players can do so without forcing those of us who only want to play Assault/Skirmish with others who feel the same.Thank you.

Translation:

"Increase wait times for everybody. Thank you."

Um, no thank you. I like wait times as they are now, and in don't get to play too often. Long wait times means I have to waste time so I log out and walk away from my computer to do other stuff.

[JC Daxion]

Fen Tetsudo, on 30 December 2015 - 05:46 PM, said:

Not enough players left to go back to the old method.

And Skirmish bores me.

But I'm willing to share. I grudgingly play Skirmish so that others will return the courtesy when I want Conquest.

Total crap, numbers are higher than they have ever been...

[PocketYoda]

The game is socially unfriendly, that's why the Steam influx failed.. Everything about this game tries to push away social interaction..

Its no wonder the population cannot support those modes.

Edited by Samial, 18 February 2016 - 05:55 PM.