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Aggression On House Marik Must Stop.


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#1 Ramsess

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 06:59 PM

Cease your attacks on House Marik planets or we will be forced to attack you.

Edited by Ramsess, 30 December 2015 - 07:51 PM.


#2 eSeifer

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 07:19 PM

We are not Davion.

Your welcome to try.

#3 Zvolimir the Blackhand

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 12:25 PM

Did you say...WAR??

#4 Stoneblade

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 12:25 PM

Until Beta 3, I see this as invalid...

#5 NextGame

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Posted 01 January 2016 - 04:59 PM

View PostRamsess, on 30 December 2015 - 06:59 PM, said:

Cease your attacks on House Marik planets or we will be forced to attack you.


promises, promises

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Posted 01 January 2016 - 06:07 PM

View PosteSeifer, on 30 December 2015 - 07:19 PM, said:

We are not Davion.

Your welcome to try.


I love to see how everyone is like we will resume the NAP at phase 3.

It won't happen if House Marik doesn't want to have peace because you guys wouldn't have peace in Phase 2.5

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Posted 01 January 2016 - 07:32 PM

View PostGeneralKota307, on 01 January 2016 - 06:07 PM, said:

I love to see how everyone is like we will resume the NAP at phase 3.

It won't happen if House Marik doesn't want to have peace because you guys wouldn't have peace in Phase 2.5

The current hostilities is down to some Merc units. House Liao has no control over any merc units that choose to sign up with us. Mercs go where the money goes. Fights = money.

Those who class themselves as House Liao Loyalist (or more accurately, Mercs under permanent contract) have upheld the agreement; much to everyone's surprise -- I mean, there's nothing ingame to enforce it. No one is using real life contracts or agreements to keep the NAP.....yet, it still has held despite the issues.

I would focus the attention on who actually benefits from a Liao v Marik fight?

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 12:25 AM

View PostWaiMingLee, on 01 January 2016 - 07:32 PM, said:

Those who class themselves as House Liao Loyalist (or more accurately, Mercs under permanent contract) have upheld the agreement; much to everyone's surprise -- I mean, there's nothing ingame to enforce it. No one is using real life contracts or agreements to keep the NAP.....yet, it still has held despite the issues.

I would focus the attention on who actually benefits from a Liao v Marik fight?


Once Phase 3 is in and Loyalist are apparently allowed to vote on Attack Lanes, I guess this problem will be a thing of the past.

And yeah... The loyalist has no interest in Marik worlds unless they take Davion planets that blocks our attack lane to LIAO !!
That's about all.. We already have our hands full dealing with upstart Davion scum even with the recent Merc reinforcements. Posted Image

Edited by ShinVector, 02 January 2016 - 12:26 AM.


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Posted 02 January 2016 - 09:21 AM

View PostShinVector, on 02 January 2016 - 12:25 AM, said:


Once Phase 3 is in and Loyalist are apparently allowed to vote on Attack Lanes, I guess this problem will be a thing of the past.

And yeah... The loyalist has no interest in Marik worlds unless they take Davion planets that blocks our attack lane to LIAO !!
That's about all.. We already have our hands full dealing with upstart Davion scum even with the recent Merc reinforcements. Posted Image



We seem to have no issues in dealing with the Davion Scum.

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 10:06 AM

If I remember you guys have taken around 5 planets from us now. Is that right?

#11 poopenshire

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 10:09 AM

View PostGeneralKota307, on 02 January 2016 - 10:06 AM, said:

If I remember you guys have taken around 5 planets from us now. Is that right?



nope, only 1 the rest were DavRat planets. TCAF has been getting Marik tags.

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 10:52 AM

And more Marik planets will fall for the new Liao empire

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 12:02 PM

View Postpoopenshire, on 02 January 2016 - 10:09 AM, said:

nope, only 1 the rest were DavRat planets. TCAF has been getting Marik tags.


Phact, Zion, Les Halles, Shuen Wan, Elnath and Ventarben will be latest. None of them (except for Zion maybe) was anywhere enar Liao

Edited by Jherek C, 02 January 2016 - 12:05 PM.


#14 maniacos

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 12:05 PM

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Edited by Jherek C, 02 January 2016 - 12:05 PM.


#15 Danjo San

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 01:42 PM

it's easy to explain... Mercs beginn Battle, Battle attracts Pugs, Pugs raise Numbers, Numbers attract more Players... Spiral of CW.
if you don't want fights with Liao, stop defending... Players ghostdrop maybe 2-3 times...
ghostdropping takes time, one ghostdropship constantly dropping needs a little more than 2 hours to ghostdrop a planet to 51%
And that's if they are dropping non stop. get 2 ghostdropships doing that they can be there in a little more than one hour ... thats still a lot of dedication for not playing... Stop defending NAP stays active

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 01:54 PM

Doesn't explain the 12-man groups I'm seeing, flying Liao colors.

#17 maniacos

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 01:55 PM

Well but that wont work because there will be PUGs battling, as you said yourself. You can control units but not PUGs.

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 04:21 PM

View PostWaiMingLee, on 01 January 2016 - 07:32 PM, said:

The current hostilities is down to some Merc units. House Liao has no control over any merc units that choose to sign up with us. Mercs go where the money goes. Fights = money.

Those who class themselves as House Liao Loyalist (or more accurately, Mercs under permanent contract) have upheld the agreement; much to everyone's surprise -- I mean, there's nothing ingame to enforce it. No one is using real life contracts or agreements to keep the NAP.....yet, it still has held despite the issues.

I would focus the attention on who actually benefits from a Liao v Marik fight?

then you guys won't be upset or mind if we take our planets back?

View PosteSeifer, on 02 January 2016 - 10:52 AM, said:

And more Marik planets will fall for the new Liao empire

this isn't really helping you guys

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 04:25 PM

View PostShinVector, on 02 January 2016 - 12:25 AM, said:


Once Phase 3 is in and Loyalist are apparently allowed to vote on Attack Lanes, I guess this problem will be a thing of the past.

And yeah... The loyalist has no interest in Marik worlds unless they take Davion planets that blocks our attack lane to LIAO !!
That's about all.. We already have our hands full dealing with upstart Davion scum even with the recent Merc reinforcements. Posted Image

if you want planets, we can talk exchanges of planets, we can't just let you stomp into our borders and take planets at your leisure. We can talk about planet swaps if you're wanting attack avenues, but the "we take your planets cuz we said so", isn't flying well

#20 Ramsess

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 04:29 PM

View PostDanjo San, on 02 January 2016 - 01:42 PM, said:

it's easy to explain... Mercs beginn Battle, Battle attracts Pugs, Pugs raise Numbers, Numbers attract more Players... Spiral of CW.
if you don't want fights with Liao, stop defending... Players ghostdrop maybe 2-3 times...
ghostdropping takes time, one ghostdropship constantly dropping needs a little more than 2 hours to ghostdrop a planet to 51%
And that's if they are dropping non stop. get 2 ghostdropships doing that they can be there in a little more than one hour ... thats still a lot of dedication for not playing... Stop defending NAP stays active


So to keep a non aggression pact active one side of said pact should respect it while the other doesn't need to? ok nice logic.

The second problem is that it would be nice if they'd get bored... but it seems that even after a couple of planets (les halles and zion and phact) of mostly ghost drops i dont think they will get bored.

View PostHeart of Storm, on 21 December 2015 - 07:08 AM, said:


Phact was taken by ghost dropping, so the argument that you were chasing combat does not hold up. If you are going to ghost drop, do it on a Davion world, not a Marik one. If you are looking for a fight and the Davions arent biting, get on Comms and arrange a venue with a House Marik unit as part of our arrangement for joint combat exercises.

You do not aid us by acting rogue on the Marik frontier, kindly redirect your efforts to what you have demonstrated yourselves to be immensely adept at - crushing House Davion.

With respect and honour.

A Liao Loyalist






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