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[pwnface]

Johnny Z, on 11 January 2016 - 11:32 AM, said:

Synch is an old gangster term and is entirely appropriate. As in "bet on so and so in the big fight, its a synch". Basically possibly related to something that has been "rigged" "fixed" etc.

"Synch" isn't a word. What you are looking for is "Sync" a la "Synchronization".

You are bastardizing the word "Sync" and confusing it with the word "cinch" which means a sure or easy thing.

Please use the english language correctly and understand what the words you are trying to use mean.

Also, aimbot.exe activate;

[Sandpit]

pwnface, on 11 January 2016 - 12:40 PM, said:

I've never seen "entire lances disconnected to be farmed" in CW and I've got thousands of matches under my belt. Even if this is happening, it's obviously against the ToS and you should just report those players. I absolutely don't believe organized units are doing this on any kind of large scale as you seem to think.

Know what else is odd?
I've logged about 30 hours (yes 30, not a typo) this weekend starting Friday evening and not once did I run into this.

I literally have thousands of drops and I've never once seen this either.

[pwnface]

Sandpit, on 11 January 2016 - 12:54 PM, said:

Know what else is odd?
I've logged about 30 hours (yes 30, not a typo) this weekend starting Friday evening and not once did I run into this.

I literally have thousands of drops and I've never once seen this either.

Like I said, paranoid.

The only evidence I've ever seen of this is when SWOL did it and intentionally reported it to the public to show how abuse was possible under the currently broken system.

[Sandpit]

pwnface, on 11 January 2016 - 01:02 PM, said:

Like I said, paranoid.

The only evidence I've ever seen of this is when SWOL did it and intentionally reported it to the public to show how abuse was possible under the currently broken system.

Yea the only time I've seen any behaviors like this is quite simply when some of the bigger units throw a tizzy (sorry guys, I know the underlying reasoning for doing it s "good" but you really do ruin the game for others when you do it to them) about something like this.

There's a reason for it true, but as with just about everything else in this game, it gets blown waaaaaaaaaaay out of proportion. The ones making these claims NEVER have any evidence other than their word.

[Kin3ticX]

I like how people post CW threads in GD just to get more attention

[Sandpit]

Kin3ticX, on 11 January 2016 - 01:37 PM, said:

I like how people post CW threads in GD just to get more attention

who cares honestly?
I'm just as "stay on topic and follow forum rules" as the next guy, but this is nitpicky.

2 years without a separate section has made GD the "catchall" of MWO threads. Yea, it's technically against the rules, but posting in the thread does nothing but bump it and keep it current on the front page. Just ignore the thread and/or report it for moderation instead

[JaxRiot]

Kin3ticX, on 11 January 2016 - 01:37 PM, said:

I like how people post CW threads in GD just to get more attention

The CW forums are where the Pug farmers live.

Cant post anything over there without being met with extreme hostility, because you know.. Pugs are just a bunch of Bads and dont deserve opinions and are just there to be farmed.

CW is the land of highly competitive Units only! Of course, there are certain ones (those that shall not be named) whos idea of Competitive play is to avoid actual competition and farm Pugs, but Never the Less! CW is for High Competition! The Highest of High dag nabbit!

Edited by JaxRiot, 11 January 2016 - 02:07 PM.

[Kin3ticX]

JaxRiot, on 11 January 2016 - 01:51 PM, said:

The CW forums are where the Pug farmers live.

Cant post anything over there without being met with extreme hostility, because you know.. Pugs are just a bunch of Bads and dont deserve opinions and are just there to be farmed.

CW is the land of highly competitive Units only! Of course, there are certain ones (those that shall not be named) whos idea of Competitive play is to avoid actual competition and farm Pugs, but Never the Less! CW is for High Competition! The Highest of High dag nabbit!

If you are having a hard time, try reading my new player guide, specifically the part on CW.

[pwnface]

JaxRiot, on 11 January 2016 - 01:51 PM, said:

CW is the land of highly competitive Units only! Of course, there are certain ones (those that shall not be named) whos idea of Competitive play is to avoid actual competition and farm Pugs, but Never the Less! CW is for High Competition! The Highest of High dag nabbit!

CW is far from "highly competitive".

CW is mildly competitive at best.

The average solo PUG player is just so far from competitive that they think every unit is an "elite seal clubbing special forces team".

[Sandpit]

pwnface, on 11 January 2016 - 02:28 PM, said:

CW is far from "highly competitive".

CW is mildly competitive at best.

The average solo PUG player is just so far from competitive that they think every unit is an "elite seal clubbing special forces team".

Most just want to make themselves look like a martyr so others will sympathize with them and support whatever bandwagon is the flavor of the week for them

[Kin3ticX]

how about that CW trial executioner? good thing it has an ER small laser to "round it out"

[Deathlike]

Kin3ticX, on 11 January 2016 - 02:52 PM, said:

how about that CW trial executioner? good thing it has an ER small laser to "round it out"

I still don't get why PGI is "punishing" new players by continuing to put "actual stock mechs" in the Trial rotations. I guess ignorance is bliss.

[Sandpit]

Deathlike, on 11 January 2016 - 03:16 PM, said:

I still don't get why PGI is "punishing" new players by continuing to put "actual stock mechs" in the Trial rotations. I guess ignorance is bliss.

Yea I always thought providing community submitted builds would be better.

[MischiefSC]

pwnface, on 11 January 2016 - 02:28 PM, said:

CW is far from "highly competitive".

CW is mildly competitive at best.

The average solo PUG player is just so far from competitive that they think every unit is an "elite seal clubbing special forces team".

Using the term 'competitive' wrong.

CW is *very* competitive. It's pure competition. The environment is very competitive and it's unforgiving of non-competitive behavior. The only reason to play in CW is you want to go from playing 'casually' to playing as part of a big competition between factions over control of worlds.

What it is not, overall, is very elite. MCW/MRBC/RHoD are all elite competitions. There is a functional 'bar' you have to meet to really participate.

Pug/group queue is just like a pick up game at the park. It's irrelevant, you're probably just doing it because it's fun and maybe there's a girl watching. Group queue has limits like 'Johnny is 16 and everyone else is 12, so he only gets 4 other players and we get 8 so it's fair'. Everyone gets pizza and soda afterward and feels special and nobody is really allowed to win against everyone else all the time so everyone feels special just for showing up.

CW is more like most college sports. Sure, anyone can enter events but you'll get stomped by the teams with a budget and good coaching. There are leagues, schools actively recruit good players and every season there are distinct winners and losers. You can't say it isn't a competitive environment and it's got a level of top tier teams who play very, very well.

League games are sorta like pro sports. You need to be in a team to play and 95% of them don't make it much past the trials. The best people around who play that specific sport end up competing and winning in the end and most people know who the best teams are going in.

Doesn't mean CW isn't competitive - it's very competitive. The biggest problem it has right now is people who are showing up and don't want to compete but still want to play. They sandbag the teams they play with by being stupid and terribad more or less on purpose and then stomp their feet and rage that someone isn't carefully sheltering them from everyone who isn't stupid and terribad so they can pretend that their stubbornly bad choices still let them win and they're every bit as special as their mommy says they are when she brings them their dinner in the basement.

Am I being condescending? Yes, yes I am. This is a game. It's just a game. However it's a competitive game between players. To say that everyone else is obligated 100% of the time to coddle and protect and shelter everyone else all the time so that bad players don't have to lose to good players IN ANY SITUATION is so ******* absurd and ridiculous it's like I'm reading a particularly sarcastic episode of South Park, only people think they're being serious.

Edited by MischiefSC, 11 January 2016 - 04:41 PM.

[Sandpit]

MischiefSC, on 11 January 2016 - 04:39 PM, said:

so they can pretend that their stubbornly bad choices still let them win and they're every bit as special as their mommy says they are when she brings them their dinner in the basement.

pretty much sums it up

It's strange how even though they're making these ridiculous claims of "but think of the new players" the ones we see complaining about this are old players.
Interesting dynamic if you ask me.

The new players showing up on Marik TS aren't saying these things.

So it leads me to wonder, exactly who are the "altruistic" players really trying to help? It's definitely not new players, since I rarely, if ever, see any of those jumping up and down about "protecting new players" from the "big bad premade boogeyman" posting in new player threads asking for help
posting guides
posting factual information to help new players find information they need
getting in faction chat and helping direct their faction's new players to good beginner info and offering tips

or anything else that would actually help new players and solo players trying to learn how to "get better" in CW and such. Meanwhile, those of us in the "evil premades" are doing everything I just listed quite more commonly.

So tell me again, who has the community's, MWO's, new players', and CW's best interest at heart and who are the ones simply stomping around looking to spread blatant misinformation that confuses and hurts new player chances at being mroe competitive?

Seriously, feel free to check post histories and such. New players and low tier players asking for assistance are very rarely helped by anyone (based on the threads I see anyhow) in this thread jumping up and down about "helping improve CW and NPE"

Keep on doing what you guys are doing though, meanwhile the rest of us are watching our units, TS servers, and communities thrive and grow.

[Ghogiel]

MischiefSC, on 11 January 2016 - 04:39 PM, said:

Doesn't mean CW isn't competitive - it's very competitive. The biggest problem it has right now is people who are showing up and don't want to compete but still want to play.

CW is where I go so I don't have to try hard and can just chill while practicing headshots on trial 4p hbks though. Ain't doing that in solo or prime time group queue like ever.

[Kin3ticX]

This topic really needs to reach 100 pages

[B0oN]

Shameless bumping for no actual relevant reason but pouring more oil into the flames and supporting Kineticx´s lust for 100 pages worth of absolutely worthless thread and pretty well worded abuse hurled from trenches.


Guys ?

Just S... T... F... U. and go play stompy robots

Edited by Rad Hanzo, 12 January 2016 - 06:26 AM.

[MechWarrior3671771]

pwnface, on 11 January 2016 - 02:28 PM, said:

The average solo PUG player is just so far from competitive that they think every unit is an "elite seal clubbing special forces team".

Funny how you guys continue to pretend the complaints are about seal clubbing when they are really about spawncamping newbies in trial mechs. The new players expect to get stomped and don't mind, what they hate is waiting 20 mins to drop only to have their 3rd and 4th mechs spawncamped. They just want to play out the game.

Try on another excuse. That one makes you look fat. And dishonest.

[Almond Brown]

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Trying to make excuses for failure is the core reason this thread exists.. instead of taking personal responsibility. It's really as simple as that.

Sandpit, on 11 January 2016 - 11:33 AM, said:

Bam
/thread

And it is very interesting, to say the least, that so many blame PGI for not making a players "personal responsibility" something they have yet to FIX... LOL!

P.S. Every Online game, since their inception, has faced this same silly dilemma. Some day perhaps, ALL players will in fact take "personal responsibility" for their own failings. Just don't hold you breath waiting...

Edited by Almond Brown, 12 January 2016 - 08:51 AM.