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[MechWarrior5081902]

I have been trying for days to level my Raven set I got on sale, and no matter when I play I get the worst players on my team and we never win (granted I am a horrible player too). Every match I get guys not in a guild, who don't have a faction on my team, and the other team is 90% clan and half of them are in clan guilds.

Is there any other way to level ? I was tempted to buy a big mech pack and support this game, but I am getting really frustrated, it seems like the game is purposely feeding the new players to the elite guys, why is there no skill matching in the quick play?

Edited by Primal Vengeance, 10 January 2016 - 06:40 PM.

[Sigilum Sanctum]

What's your Ravens loadout? Also what Tier are you so we can get a good grasp of what you're being matched against.

[Elizander]

It's with the playstyle. If you want to learn how to get better with your Raven, Sidestrafe on Youtube has a lot of Raven gameplay videos (it's one of his favorite mechs). He's very good at peek and shoot and at times he explains why he's backing off to another position. If you can emulate his playstyle (and lower your sensitivity to aim properly, default sensitivity is too high) then you can probably carry your team to victory despite how bad they are.

Also there are trial mechs. If you want to try something heavier, just browse through those. The Timberwolf/Thunderbolt/King Crab/Direwhale are all built up decently and you can take them out for a spin if you need a break from your Raven.

[MechWarrior5081902]

The issue is not the build on the Raven, the issue is every team I join loses 12 to 3 or worse on kills, I have played 15 games today and won 1, and like I said, every team I get has little or no clan players, and the other side has 75% or more Elite clan players. I really want to like this game, and invest, but I am getting sick of being brutalized because the matching system is so horrible.

[Sigilum Sanctum]

Primal Vengeance, on 10 January 2016 - 06:47 PM, said:

The issue is not the build on the Raven, the issue is every team I join loses 12 to 3 or worse on kills, I have played 15 games today and won 1, and like I said, every team I get has little or no clan players, and the other side has 75% or more Elite clan players. I really want to like this game, and invest, but I am getting sick of being brutalized because the matching system is so horrible.

I'm inclined to ask your loadout because I want to see how you're playing your Raven. We all know the match maker is complete ****, but you're not giving us any info other than:
A: you're irritated
B: you're blaming lack of adequate clan mechs.
C: you're claiming the enemy team has "elite clan players" (<-- what does that even mean? are they legit competitive units?)

It would also help to know you're tier. I'm pretty sure Tier 5-4 players aren't matched against Tier 1 players, but I could be wrong.

[Wolfways]

Having a faction/Unit tag doesn't mean someone is a good player. Anyone can have those.

[MechWarrior5081902]

I am running this: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...4b350cd7a0f9073

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It would also help to know you're tier. I'm pretty sure Tier 5-4 players aren't matched against Tier 1 players, but I could be wrong.

I am tier 5 only because the game doesn't have a tier 6.

Edited by Primal Vengeance, 10 January 2016 - 07:05 PM.

[Escef]

Primal Vengeance, on 10 January 2016 - 07:03 PM, said:

I am running this: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...4b350cd7a0f9073

That's actually not bad, but it also doesn't play like most lights. Try to find footage of people playing Adders or Kit Foxes for inspiration.

[Elizander]

Primal Vengeance, on 10 January 2016 - 07:03 PM, said:

I am running this: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...4b350cd7a0f9073 I am tier 5 only because the game doesn't have a tier 6.

Are you able to deal 250-500+ damage when you play, even when losing? If you keep dying up close then going back to ERLL might be better and poke from 600-800m or so.

[Sigilum Sanctum]

Primal Vengeance, on 10 January 2016 - 07:03 PM, said:

I am running this: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...4b350cd7a0f9073



I am tier 5 only because the game doesn't have a tier 6.

That loadout is pretty standard (not a bad thing). At the end of the day you might just be suffering from just being in Tier 5. I recommend looking over Kanajashi's tutorials:
https://www.youtube....annel=Kanajashi

They can help you get better by a good deal. In terms of your allies? Can't help you too much there other than try and take lead via VOIP and direct them. Good luck with that though, its called the PUG lottery for a reason.

EDIT: Head over to HPG Outreach:
https://www.reddit.com/r/OutreachHPG/

They have unit directories that you can join. A lot of them are willing to help new players acclimatize and learn the ropes.

I'm genuinely sorry you're having a bad experience, just remember a lot of us are willing to help you get better. Keep calm, and drop again.

Edited by Sigilum Sanctum, 10 January 2016 - 07:11 PM.

[John1352]

I suggest a small change. First thing you do every match is run toward another friendly lance, ideally the heaviest one. Q brings up friendly mech info. Light mech lances tend to follow whoever moves first, getting your team grouped up is extremely helpful.

Then following a big mech and shooting anything that tries to fight it is also a good tactic, just try to not get underfoot.

[Captain Stiffy]

Primal Vengeance, on 10 January 2016 - 06:39 PM, said:

I have been trying for days to level my Raven set I got on sale, and no matter when I play I get the worst players on my team and we never win (granted I am a horrible player too). Every match I get guys not in a guild, who don't have a faction on my team, and the other team is 90% clan and half of them are in clan guilds.

Is there any other way to level ? I was tempted to buy a big mech pack and support this game, but I am getting really frustrated, it seems like the game is purposely feeding the new players to the elite guys, why is there no skill matching in the quick play?

You can't win without your team. You can't move up in rank without winning. Welcome to MWO.

[MechWarrior5081902]

Maybe this is one of the problems I am having: https://www.reddit.c...unt_ever_today/

..apparently more Steam players have logged in today than ever before, but I still do not get why, my side is Steam newbs, and the other side is loaded with Jade Falcons named Kerensky.

I am new, but I am not a horrible player I usually do 200-350 damage per round, and many times I am the last one alive, but then again the rest die so fast in their shiny trial King Crabs.

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I suggest a small change. First thing you do every match is run toward another friendly lance, ideally the heaviest one. Q brings up friendly mech info. Light mech lances tend to follow whoever moves first, getting your team grouped up is extremely helpful.

Then following a big mech and shooting anything that tries to fight it is also a good tactic, just try to not get underfoot.

I do this, the problem is, when someone see's a light mech, they go nuts and stop firing at the King Crab, and focus the light mech.

Edited by Primal Vengeance, 10 January 2016 - 07:38 PM.

[MechaBattler]

Are you playing Community Warfare? If you're in regular pug queue. Then no one is in a group. Faction icons don't mean they're in the same group.

It takes a good amount of time to get good at the game. Once you do. Even a loss isn't so harsh.

[MechWarrior5081902]

MechaBattler, on 10 January 2016 - 07:43 PM, said:

Are you playing Community Warfare? If you're in regular pug queue. Then no one is in a group. Faction icons don't mean they're in the same group.

It takes a good amount of time to get good at the game. Once you do. Even a loss isn't so harsh.

Naw I tried Community Warfare a couple of times, the Jade Falcons always win, no need to even play that.

My reason for posting is, I cant get any xp to level my mech if I lose every round, I am getting no assists because my groups are so horrible they dont kill anything, so I am screwed, I cant get xp. I was thinking about getting a resistance pack next payday but this is too frustrating, it would take me months to level 12 mechs.

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[Coralld]

Your build is fine, as for your team, that's a different story, and as they say, welcome to PUG life.
If there is a higher number of steam users on at that time and they are new then the new guys ar3 associating a Light mech as possibly an easy kill where as that King Crab will fight back, hard, thus you have guys going after the Squirrel.
I highly recommend finding a unit to join and hang out with (the term Clan means something completely different in MWO compared to other games) and drop with them, at least this way you know that not every one on your team are not completely clueless.

[MechaBattler]

Primal Vengeance, on 10 January 2016 - 07:58 PM, said:

Naw I tried Community Warfare a couple of times, the Jade Falcons always win, no need to even play that.

My reason for posting is, I cant get any xp to level my mech if I lose every round, I am getting no assists because my groups are so horrible they dont kill anything, so I am screwed, I cant get xp. I was thinking about getting a resistance pack next payday but this is too frustrating, it would take me months to level 12 mechs.

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The only thing you can do is find a group willing to take you in so you can play with them in group queue. Otherwise sadly the only solution is to get good. Good enough to earn even on a loss. Or spend some money on premium time to take a bit of the edge off the grind.

[Captain Stiffy]

I just want to point out that at rank 2 and 3 this isn't really any better. It's still definitely possible for an average of about 3 of your team members to be morons and if your side has 3 idiots and the other side has 0 that's GG.

[Xetelian]

365m Range is pretty darn short when you only have 215 armor and giant legs. Sure a FS9 and ACH have even less range on their SPL but they're humanoid, go 10KPH faster and slimmer profile.

I'd try swapping the 2 Large Pulse lasers for 2 ER Large Lasers and see if 600m is better.

RVN-4X

Just for reference, 2.68 DPS vs 3.14 and more cooling might just be the advantages you need to perform.

Edited by Xetelian, 10 January 2016 - 08:14 PM.

[ReemusX]

Don't feel bad, I just went on a 50 game losing streak scoring well but team was being annihilated. Now I am on a winning streak the complete opposite. Stick with it.