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[Chiron]

I've elited my boars head with the following configuration, and honestly,I'm just frustrated with it. I find that if I'm having fun seems to matter more than if im running a meta/op build.

This is what im running.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...db3f7d931ed9664

I'd love suggestions about what you guys have found to be fun in your Roast Beef!

[Void Angel]

The Boar's Head is an odd duck - it's the only Atlas that should ever consider an XL. If you want to take advantage of that, you'll need to use a large XL engine. Otherwise, simply opt for an adaptation of the standard brawling configuration and go with an AC/20.

With the XL, the Boar's Head plays as a fast Heavy (for the Inner Sphere.) Use its mobility and mass to outmaneuver other Assaults and bully smaller enemies, but do not fully engage at the vanguard of the fight as you would with a brawler setup.

Without the XL, you'll want to use a Standard Brawling Setup to place massive firepower on target. Stand near the front and keep under cover until it's time to engage,then pick a moment when other big 'mechs on your team are moving up -and fight.

In no case is the LRM worth it. The single launcher is disproportionally vulnerable to AMS, and the tonnage spent interferes with the vital task of keeping all those pulse lasers cool.

Edited by Void Angel, 28 June 2015 - 08:03 AM.

[Spheroid]

Void that brawler build is highly unoptimized. If you put the heatsinks in the engine you have enough slots for endo. Endo saves you five tons to use on a bigger engine or something else like the mostly useless command console. Also AMS in the head makes no sense. Put it in the left arm. If the arm gets shot off you have no need for head ammo. That cockpit slot if not used for command console is the ideal spot for AC-20 ammo since headshoting an Atlas is akin to a miracle.

Edited by Spheroid, 28 June 2015 - 12:11 AM.

[Nightshade24]

I suggest keep at it.. take breaks every so and so...

The thing is I had the same problem at some times in some mechs... but then that mech gets instead a 100 damage game average into a 1000 one game later... and I knew I just need to adapt...

Don't give up at it... no mech is truely worthless if you keep trying

[Spheroid]

try this http://mwo.smurfy-ne...9efc55f54f15c45

or

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...f6aa030d0710040

Edited by Spheroid, 28 June 2015 - 12:33 AM.

[Telmasa]

I would try this, if you haven't already sold the XL400 engine:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...59a377addd960f7

What I'd try with STD engine:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...eda6aa4f94754fb

[Plaguetongue]

if you wanna brawl then indeed skip the LRM

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...37a90658bd71e65

put on more firepower on it basicly, if you get heat problem then replace the large pulse with a medium or even replace the ac20 with ac10 and put on more heatsinks

Telmasa, on 28 June 2015 - 01:27 AM, said:

I would try this, if you haven't already sold the XL400 engine:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...59a377addd960f7

What I'd try with STD engine:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...eda6aa4f94754fb

you will never need 4 tons of ammo for a single ac10, especially not in an atlas

[UndeadEdd]

Mine is like Telmasa's STD engine build, minus the BAP plus 1 more DHS:
BOAR'S HEAD - Brawler
Try to keep that right side alive as long as possible, including sacrificing your left. I've had so many good fights with it. A 56 damage accurate alpha strike with decent heat dissipation. At medium ranges try sniping with the AC since you have lots of ammo for it.

[Void Angel]

Spheroid, on 28 June 2015 - 12:10 AM, said:

Void that brawler build is highly unoptimized. If you put the heatsinks in the engine you have enough slots for endo. Endo saves you five tons to use on a bigger engine or something else like the mostly useless command console. Also AMS in the head makes no sense. Put it in the left arm. If the arm gets shot off you have no need for head ammo. That cockpit slot if not used for command console is the ideal spot for AC-20 ammo since headshoting an Atlas is akin to a miracle.

"Highly" is a stretch, but you're right about the engine - I put it up during matches, and I'm obviously a bit rusty after having been away for a few weeks. I've corrected the original post with This Build.

AMS ammo in the head does make sense, however. You can voluntarily expend ammunition from other weapons, but you cannot guarantee that the enemy will use weapons which trigger AMS. Still, as you so helpfully demonstrated, there are so many personal preferences about ammo (and armor) placement that I don't bother micro-analyzing where I put it all - I simply make sure the build fits and let the player adjust to suit their own preferences.

Edited by Void Angel, 28 June 2015 - 10:40 AM.

[Chiron]

Thanks for all the help guys, I have definitely found the build I like!
I took inspiration from a few of you, definitely ditched the LRM, and used what I had in the shop.

After a few matches to get used to it, I just had a match where I went 4 kills, 3 assists, 995 damage, DESPITE US LOSING 7-12!

Thanks guys, cheers.

[Spheroid]

^ I would delete the CC and replace it with a third ton of ammo and max armor or an AC-10 with three tons and 608 armor. The BAP is much more efficient aiding you. Stacking them is not worth it in my opinion.

[TheLuc]

just a alternative loadout you might want to consider

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...59d45262c38bab9

[CygnusX7]

Just bought one last night.
Built out like this: BOAR'S HEAD

Ran it once so far. Seems good to me but I like asymmetrical builds.

Edited by CygnusX7, 30 June 2015 - 06:18 AM.

[Sagamore]

CygnusX7, on 29 June 2015 - 10:56 AM, said:

Just bought one last night.
Built out like this: BOAR'S HEAD

Ran it once so far. Seems good to me but I like asymmetrical builds.

That is a ballsy build you have there. Most players target the Atlas' right torso immediately which would render you completely helpless.

[CygnusX7]

Drive it like a cent.

The left torso is useless, the left arm might as well be a shield.

[UndeadEdd]

Interesting build, CygnusX7. I just wonder how you're going to use that AC20 without ammo...

[CygnusX7]

UndeadEdd, on 30 June 2015 - 12:34 AM, said:

Interesting build, CygnusX7. I just wonder how you're going to use that AC20 without ammo...

Yeah, I just use the ac20 for crit padding

BOAR'S HEAD

[BoldricKent]

If you have critical points to spare, i would suggest, crit padding your right torso it does wonders for ac20 survival,
slap double case or something, else ac20 will fallow armor quickly and that would be a shame in STD build.

[CygnusX7]

A good Atlas is a ninja atlas.

[notcoffeetable]

I'm really digging Gman's Wubbang build: AC/20, 6xMPL, STD 355