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[Malleus011]

Why the hell do Warhammers have Ballistic quirks?

[Luscious Dan]

Malleus011, on 15 January 2016 - 02:04 PM, said:

Why the hell do Warhammers have Ballistic quirks?

Because they have ballistic mounts due to MGs, and they badly need some for variety's sake. All energy would be lame. Already have the BK for that.

[Nightbird]

Malleus011, on 15 January 2016 - 02:04 PM, said:

Why the hell do Warhammers have Ballistic quirks?

To make the machine guns moar powerful!!!!

[Dagorlad13]

braveheart95, on 14 January 2016 - 02:41 PM, said:

The Loki is the Hellbringer.

Only to Inner Sphere Surats!

[Gas Guzzler]

MarineTech, on 15 January 2016 - 12:39 PM, said:

The 4 cannons alone are going to take up almost half the weight of the mech. Not going to leave much left for armor, ammo, or backup weapons.

I think I did the math and mocked it up on a CTF-4X, I had room for a larger engine and just enough ammo. Who needs backup weapons?

[Malleus011]

Luscious Dan, on 15 January 2016 - 02:08 PM, said:

Because they have ballistic mounts due to MGs, and they badly need some for variety's sake. All energy would be lame. Already have the BK for that.

But it's a Warhammer. One of the iconic PPC mechs. Why does it get multiple quirks for the secondary backup weapons?

[Jaspbo1]

Malleus011, on 15 January 2016 - 02:32 PM, said:

But it's a Warhammer. One of the iconic PPC mechs. Why does it get multiple quirks for the secondary backup weapons?

Because Ballistic hardpoints, the question we should be asking is why does an no ballistic Highlander have Gauss quirks?

[Cryzak]

My awesome has 1053 er ppc range with mods...its nice how clan mech sucks with ppc:s(yea i know splash) its all about velocity quirks for me. 0-50% against 0 ?

[braveheart95]

Hmmm the Warhammer may not be bad after all....

[SgtMagor]

the BW looks good for a stock mech, have to try it out, gonna try to keep it as close to stock as possible.

[Scifi Toughguy]

LilShlomo, on 15 January 2016 - 12:35 PM, said:

I am not feeling it BJ-1 got waaay better quikrs xD

Saying that these quirks suck because they aren't as good as the most ridiculously over quirked mech in the game is really disingenuous. Using that comparison, all the mechs in the game save a handful have sucky quirks.

[Orkdung]

Malleus011, on 15 January 2016 - 02:32 PM, said:

But it's a Warhammer. One of the iconic PPC mechs. Why does it get multiple quirks for the secondary backup weapons?

Meeewahhh!! I'm pout! It gets multiple QUIRKS! for a secondary weapon! *stomps feet*

[CycKath]

IronClaws, on 15 January 2016 - 02:29 PM, said:

Only to Inner Sphere Surats!

May the peace that only following the path of the Blessed Blake purge you for your heretic insanity and guide you back to the path of true knowledge.

[signal]

If it only had ppc quirks it'd be pretty mediocre. But now with everything presented currently it looks like a tier 2 heavy easy. It'll be a solid alternative to the Black Knight, depending on how gracious the hitboxes will be. A tanky ballistic + energy mech with solid hardpoint positioning, a pure laser vomit heavy with some lovely agility quirks, maybe even an srm+ballistic+energy alpha striker, and I guess also an srm + energy brawler.

Being optimistic, this thing could have been the IS' equivalent to the TBR had it not been 5 tons lighter and without JJ's. Realistically though, I think it'll be really solid mech that wont fall to the wayside.

[Sevronis]

ironnightbird, on 15 January 2016 - 01:58 PM, said:

PPC quirks are general, they apply to ER-PPCs as well. This makes having PPC quirks better. Sort of like Standard Laser quirks.

Really? When did this change? I remember PPC quirks only applied to the non-ERs unless I totally misunderstood them from the beginning. might explain why there are so many PPC quirks but barely any that specified ERPPC. If this is true, I have some tweaking to do...

[Malleus011]

Jaspbo1, on 15 January 2016 - 02:34 PM, said:

Because Ballistic hardpoints, the question we should be asking is why does an no ballistic Highlander have Gauss quirks?

PPC quirks make sense. Energy quirks make sense - thise are the primary and secondary weapon systems. Even missile quirks make some sense, as most Warhammers carry SRMs. But giving multiple Ballistics quirks to the MG hardpoints? Those aren't even secondary weapons on a Warhammer.

It would be like quirking an Abrams and giving it quirks for the 120mm gun and the crew's sidearms. Maybe one Ballistic quirk as an afterthought, but two? It seems wonky for a mech which carries 1 ton of Ballistics stock to have so many Ballistic quirks.

[Bacon Wan Kenobi]

Malleus011, on 16 January 2016 - 09:02 AM, said:

PPC quirks make sense. Energy quirks make sense - thise are the primary and secondary weapon systems. Even missile quirks make some sense, as most Warhammers carry SRMs. But giving multiple Ballistics quirks to the MG hardpoints? Those aren't even secondary weapons on a Warhammer.

It would be like quirking an Abrams and giving it quirks for the 120mm gun and the crew's sidearms. Maybe one Ballistic quirk as an afterthought, but two? It seems wonky for a mech which carries 1 ton of Ballistics stock to have so many Ballistic quirks.

They are considering more than stock loadout. It's quirked for what people are probably going to actually run on it.

[Uncle Totty]

CycKath, on 15 January 2016 - 08:48 PM, said:

May the peace that only following the path of the Blessed Blake purge you for your heretic insanity and guide you back to the path of true knowledge.

Oh, I have seen your "peace of Blake". It was very "enlightening". (Nuke then till they glow!)

[Rexipher Evergrey]

I know it's weekend and all, but where's my 3 days Warhammer preview? Or am I just too early? (10:10pm) ='(

Edited by Prince Damien, 16 January 2016 - 01:10 PM.

[CycKath]

Nathan K, on 16 January 2016 - 11:27 AM, said:

Oh, I have seen your "peace of Blake". It was very "enlightening". (Nuke then till they glow!)

There is no more pure or noble goal than the preservation of knowledge and ensuring the proper guidance of those who would misuse it, thus everything must be done to ensure it.