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[Bishop Steiner]

This thread is for all you fellow maniacs and masochists who refuse to bow to Meta, and will be running the Warhammer the way God and Jordan Weisman intended:


Rumours abound of an INSANE 60% velocity quirk to the 6Rs PPCs (well, rumor being Russ saying so, but it ain't official til it releases), but we all know that just means some folk will be running a ppc or 2 in the slightly higher torso mounts, and using arms as shields.

And by all means, I suppose that's OK...I'm going to need priority targets to hunt down in my Mjolnir, so we'll let em do whatever suits them.

But for those of you who like me, not only can't bear to see a WHM without it's iconic PPC arms, but also actually understand the value of quick pitch and yaw.... what are your build plans? Plus.... who doesn't love tossing lightning bolts around like Zeus incarnate?


I have a couple thoughts in mind, part of which will depend heavily on how viable XLs are
(2 PPC, AC10, 4xSL, 300xl)....and some others for if XLs don't work so well (2xPPC, 4x MPL, probably... my 7S will probably sport dual srm4 packs though).

I'll admit, the 6D, I might experiment with lasers, as dual energy arms might look OK without PPCs.... only time will tell...they will certainly have guns though.

How about you fellow Whammy Jocks? What's your plan?

[Juodas Varnas]

Good man.
Don't let the Meta corrupt you.

I too enjoy the PPC.
Especially on a specific four-legged chassis. *hint hint*

Seriously, we made the Urbanmech happen despite the "DOA", we can make the Quads happen too!

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 13 January 2016 - 10:19 AM.

[Tyler Valentine]

We need hard point specific quirks!

Glad to see you'll be keeping it real too Bishop

[Malleus011]

Looking forward to Warhammers more than any other 'mech. Yeah, running PPCs in the arms might not be optimal but I'm going to do it anyway.

And I'm all for 'signature quirks' or hard point specific quirks.

[Bishop Steiner]

Juodas Varnas, on 13 January 2016 - 10:18 AM, said:

Good man.
Don't let the Meta corrupt you.

I too enjoy the PPC.
Especially on a specific four-legged chassis. *hint hint*

Seriously, we made the Urbanmech happen despite the "DOA", we can make the Quads happen too!

Yeah....while I will fully support that campaign, I also understand the logistical issues with it..... gonna be a hard fight but I would love it. What I really hope is at least we can get them made for Battletech, which even though they are using pGIs models, hopefully wont be bound to JUST those (since PGI has left a lot of succession war blanks) and because the movement issues should not be near as big an issue on a TT style game. But I would support any drive for them here, too.

Tyler Valentine, on 13 January 2016 - 10:19 AM, said:

We need hard point specific quirks!

Glad to see you'll be keeping it real too Bishop

Yeah, brought that up to Russ, and while he hasn't "agreed" to it, he at least has acknowledged it and commented on it. So we can keep hoping. Big freaking code writing undertaking I would imagine, but would be HUGE for balance.

I think all "general" quirks should be "Chassis Global" but any specific named weapon quirks absolutely should be tied to the hardpoint location.

[ChapeL]

Malleus011, on 13 January 2016 - 10:24 AM, said:

And I'm all for 'signature quirks'

"Signature" was all quirks were supposed to be in the begining. So Awesomes could be better awesomes than Stalkers for instance... Boy did that go downhill from there !

[Nastyogre]

I won't buy any of the Classics. These should be in the game for nothing (as in free DLC)
I will buy them with Cbills and I will run them the way they were intended more or less. Triple AC 5 and med laser Marauders make me sad. People that want to load big AC's into Warhammer make me sad. (unless you are trying to recreate the Hammerhands) Archer. Gonna have some big LRMS and some supporting weapons.

Other mechs I'll play the meta game. Not on those. Oh sure I might experiment with LPL's on a Whammy or Marauder. Those are some natural swaps. My consistently fielded units will be using more or less original equipment with some nod to removing useless things like MG's

[Tyler Valentine]

Bishop Steiner, on 13 January 2016 - 10:26 AM, said:

Yeah, brought that up to Russ, and while he hasn't "agreed" to it, he at least has acknowledged it and commented on it. So we can keep hoping. Big freaking code writing undertaking I would imagine, but would be HUGE for balance.

I think all "general" quirks should be "Chassis Global" but any specific named weapon quirks absolutely should be tied to the hardpoint location.

Yeah, I've been following the tweets, totally agree with this initiative, and sending him one or two of my own (although he replies less to me than you lol!).

[Bishop Steiner]

ChapeL, on 13 January 2016 - 10:32 AM, said:

"Signature" was all quirks were supposed to be in the begining. So Awesomes could be better awesomes than Stalkers for instance... Boy did that go downhill from there !

yeah, seems like somebody let Paul out of the woodshed again......

We need to blow up Quirks, and this time...well, get someone not at PGI to do them, apparently. A Lore nerd who also gets the limitations and realities of the chassis (Atlas is tough, but no weapon quirks, AWS is the best Lightning slinging assault, and gets tough, exempts 3rd PPC from GH, etc)

[CDLord HHGD]

Stock WHM or bust!

[LegendaryArticuno]

From my experience PPC's arent that fun to play with... even with a heavily ppc quirked mech. I.e. Thunderbolt 9S.

[Bishop Steiner]

LegendaryArticuno, on 13 January 2016 - 10:47 AM, said:

From my experience PPC's arent that fun to play with... even with a heavily ppc quirked mech. I.e. Thunderbolt 9S.

so obvious answer would be to not buy a PPC mech, quiaff?

Also totally irrelevant to point of this Topic.... plenty of places to debate value of PPCs, or making "MetaWhammies".

This is for us luddites who want our PPCs.

cdlord, on 13 January 2016 - 10:42 AM, said:

Super Stock WHM or bust!

sorry, unless playing SM matches, DHS are gonna be mandatory.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 13 January 2016 - 10:49 AM.

[Rokuzachi]

Gotta have the PPChands. Always.

[MeiSooHaityu]

I wish I was getting one, but instead I will enjoy the new Warhammer from afar.

LegendaryArticuno, on 13 January 2016 - 10:47 AM, said:

From my experience PPC's arent that fun to play with... even with a heavily ppc quirked mech. I.e. Thunderbolt 9S.

With good velocity quirks, I don't mind PPCs. Might not be the most effective weapon system, but I'm ok with it. I like the Marauder 3R with 2 PPCs and a Gauss Rifle and I like the Vindicator 1AA with 2 PPCs (even it it is tricky to do well in). I'm even trying to get into the groove of using a Cat K2 with them.

I'm sure the Warhammer will be nice with PPC quirks. The only thing is the energy hardpoints (especially torso mounted) seem a bit high up for 60% velocity quirks.

[Akira Shindeiru]

Welp I will run my Warhammers stock. Upgrade to Endo and DHS of course and max out armor. But other than that- completely stock.
And I will enjoy it!

[Palor]

As I can't hit the broadside of an Awesome with a PPC, I was planning on leveling at least 1 Warhammer with PPC's on it. I loved PPC's in the older games, but in this incarnation, I am just terribad with them, and I need to fix that.

[Bishop Steiner]

0PTICZ, on 13 January 2016 - 10:57 AM, said:

Welp I will run my Warhammers stock. Upgrade to Endo and DHS of course and max out armor. But other than that- completely stock.
And I will enjoy it!

well, that's still more "stock" than NASCAR, lol.

[CDLord HHGD]

Bishop Steiner, on 13 January 2016 - 10:49 AM, said:

so obvious answer would be to not buy a PPC mech, quiaff?

Also totally irrelevant to point of this Topic.... plenty of places to debate value of PPCs, or making "MetaWhammies".

This is for us luddites who want our PPCs.


sorry, unless playing SM matches, DHS are gonna be mandatory.

okay okay, tech upgrade but stock loadout.

[Bishop Steiner]

cdlord, on 13 January 2016 - 11:02 AM, said:

okay okay, tech upgrade but stock loadout.

I can respect that. Not a huge fan of that many fire groups, overall..... or solo SRM launchers (even my TT version eventually dropped that for an LB-10X)

I suppose one could bring it down to 3-4 groups though.... PPCs either together or seperate triggers, MLasers on another, and the SRMS, MGs and Slasers on the final.

Mt thing it I have yet to find a mouse I like the location of group 4, so I generally run 3 fire groups only. I would prefer the separate PPC option...anyone know if there are any mice with 2 physical "scroll wheels"?

[Malleus011]

Superstock for me; though I'll keep the spare 6R stock. Because you never know when you'll need a stock 'mech.