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[Ace Selin]

Dirk Le Daring, on 17 January 2016 - 02:13 PM, said:

So we have an extra map. I like alpine.

Yeah

[Big Tin Man]

Keep in mind the last truly NEW non-CW map was the bog, about a year ago.

High time we started adding maps and not just replace them. And everyone says it looks like alpine, while I think it has more in common with boreal...

[MacBeth]

Have you seen Gorillas move on two legs? Sure they won't be setting any track records, but those burly dudes can hoof it! I'm curious why would you equate a 80+ ton biped to an out of shape quadruped?

[Ultimax]

MacBeth, on 17 January 2016 - 02:18 PM, said:

Alpine is rarely fun these days, particularly for brawlers...

Nearly all skirmish mode matches on Alpine end up in a short ranged brawl at the top of the hill, and people who are bad at playing brawlers still complain.


It's like some players won't be happy until maps just drop us in a 300x300m box.

Edited by Ultimatum X, 18 January 2016 - 03:31 PM.

[MacBeth]

Hmm... I will agree the top of burger hill is and can be a form of Brawling, but the battle is often very polarizing in that one side is almost always disadvantaged, typically the side that reaches the top first wins the brawl. More often than not, Alpine its just another River city citadel.

I actually really liked Alpine back in the day when engagements varied, my one beef with the map is that stupid hill.

Edited by MacBeth, 18 January 2016 - 03:39 PM.

[Merit Lef]

Why delete any map.....we need more maps in this game.

[BD RAIDR]

Are PGI still planning on reworking Alpine? If they're going to keep it in rotation, a reworked version would be nice...

[1Grimbane]

DjPush, on 17 January 2016 - 02:04 PM, said:

Because the new map looks like Alpine Peaks. Only better.

except now we have TWO maps like that with the possibility of a re-work done to alpine... why limit yourself man,,, this way we actually have our cake and get to eat it, then when alpine gets re-done we get more cake. what logic drives you to limit your available options. i don't get that line of thought

[Ted Wayz]

MacBeth, on 17 January 2016 - 02:18 PM, said:

Alpine is rarely fun these days, particularly for brawlers and Assault mechs.

It was fun back in the day when no one even looked at burger hill.

Haven't fought on that hill in ages. I think everyone got bored of it.

And there are places to brawl on that map. Just have to be patient and hug terrain until you get into position. Especially easy to brawl if you get Conquest.

[1Grimbane]

i have been playing in many odd corners of alpine as of late... it's almost as if the hill is being boycotted lol, great rolling brawls and trades around hills can happen behind the hill and on either side. obviously conquest is best mode since it promotes movement instead of hill camping.



.... But these developers don't want a happy player base, they are vampires that feed off anger and hate. they must be so fat and slow by now

Edited by 1Grimbane, 18 January 2016 - 06:51 PM.

[Chuck Jager]

The spawn on the non-cup side of the hill seems to loose more easily than on the other side.

Alpine and Terra both make mediocre players worse and bad players unbearable. Alpine also is exciting for new players who like to snipe and lrm, but it is easier for them to become a liability to their team and not learn from it as they may get their highest damage games with loss after loss.

[Rorvik]

F6Pete, on 18 January 2016 - 03:46 PM, said:

Are PGI still planning on reworking Alpine? If they're going to keep it in rotation, a reworked version would be nice...

From Russ' January Roadmap:

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New Quick Play Map – Polar Highlands
MWO is getting a brand new map, and a very big one at that. Originally we set out to do a modernization pass on Alpine Peaks, but during that design process we came to the conclusion that it would make things easier, and would produce better results, if we just started from scratch with a brand new design. So this is not a "New Alpine Peaks", but a new map altogether. It takes more of an old school approach in its design, featuring a mostly even elevation throughout, but with some shallow trenches and larger rocks for cover. We are hopeful that this will introduce an interesting and all new style of game play to MWO.

As Polar Highlands is a new map and not a redesign of Alpine Peaks, Alpine Peaks will remain in rotation in its current form for now. However, we’re going to continue looking at simpler ways of improving Alpine, such as through the adjustment of spawn locations.

So, yes, but nothing extravagant.

[Hillslam]

Alpine sucks hairy donkey balls. The ONLY time Alpine doesn't gargle and swallow is in Conquest mode.

Remove Assault and Skirmish Alpine altogether from the mix. They're a blight on mankind.

[BD RAIDR]

Thanks, Rorvik.

I hope they end up giving it a decent work over.

[Randall Flagg]

Delete Terrible Therma

[Rorvik]

My one hope is that Polar Highlands will be a good map and players will enjoy it enough to realize how bad Alpine Peaks is and they eventually remove it (since we cannot rely on the contrarians to not vote for it eventually... )

[PocketYoda]

You kidding they didn't remove Alpine.... But they said they were going too, can we at least opt out of crappy maps even if the que takes longer i'm good with that...

[adamts01]

MacBeth, on 17 January 2016 - 02:18 PM, said:

Alpine is rarely fun these days, particularly for brawlers and Assault mechs.

It was fun back in the day when no one even looked at burger hill.

Literally every other solo Alpine match when I bring my small laser Nova I have top damage and kills on my team. Those where I don't do top damage I still do well, and it was normally a stomp due to noobery on our team's part. Going against a 12 man, I'd get eaten up, but I wouldn't bring a pure brawler to group que without a strategy.

Rorvik, on 18 January 2016 - 10:13 PM, said:

My one hope is that Polar Highlands will be a good map and players will enjoy it enough to realize how bad Alpine Peaks is and they eventually remove it (since we cannot rely on the contrarians to not vote for it eventually... )

The mjority people realize Alpine needs work, and PGI say's they're going to fix it. The only real problem is that stupid mountain.

[Tesunie]

Imperius, on 17 January 2016 - 02:39 PM, said:

You must not play an assault because terra therma is the ultimate anti assault map. Somehow the whole map is a hill it seems.

I saw this comment and thought it was funny... Because my Atlas loves Therma with a good team willing to charge into the center (and not stop) with me. (Seriously? People think my Atlas has brakes? Nope. Keep right on charging!)


On another note, I've gotten into lots of brawls on Alpine. It's just a matter of approaching properly. You know the enemy is very likely to charge that stupid hill. Use this knowledge against them.

[Moldur]

I like the variety of having really awful maps mixed in with the mediocre and good ones.

More maps = more quality. Jeez. Look at all these people complaining about not taking out a bad map. It's GOOD to have a bad map. MORE VARIETY. JEEEEEEEZ

IT MIGHT BE ONE OF MY LEAST PLAYED MAPS AND ALMOST NOBODY VOTES FOR IT, BUT WE, THE FORUM MAJORITY HAVE SPOKEN! It's for everyone's good, y'know


I feel sorry for people that are so ignorant as to not understand why we kept Alpine! Yeesh!