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[Felio]

Once again I find myself compelled to use the + variant even though I'd prefer another.

It's the one with the 1 ballistic gun arm, 3 energy in the left torso and 3 missile hardpoints: one in the right torso and two in the left arm, each with 20 tubes.

What are you doing with it? Or what would you do with it?

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a7be5987141bdd2

[Rayden Wolf]

I put an UAC20, 2 LrgPls and 3 Lrm5 in, just to get the challenge complete. Its really hard for me to have fun in this mech :/

[Inveramsay]

XL325, UAC20, 2xLPL, 3xSRM6+A. It is a bit too hot for my liking but as an ambusher it does ok

[Felio]

2xLPL is a good idea, thanks.

I had tried 2 ERPPC, but the requisite heat sinks just take too much weight and space. 3 ERML or 3 MPL are, well, they are not main weapons but they are nothing to sneeze at, either.

The trouble with the UAC/20, which seems an obvious choice especially since I can't get comfortable with the Gauss, is that this mech is so slow. I found myself not getting in range to use the gun all that often. SRMs and SSRMs have kind of the same problem.

[Rayden Wolf]

Try an UAC10, the range is much better. Gauss doesnt really work, because of the low hardpoint location :/
And PPC's...i tryed Gauss+2 C-ER PPC rest DHS. Even then the heat is absurd.

[Hit the Deck]

Gauss+3LPL.... just like how my HGN-732 is built.

[Raso]

I'm eye balling this. It makes me glad I passed on the Heavy Metal. This looks way more fun!

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a3dca83ff9b45a8

[Hit the Deck]

Raso, on 02 February 2016 - 06:28 PM, said:

I'm eye balling this. It makes me glad I passed on the Heavy Metal. This looks way more fun!

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a3dca83ff9b45a8

Hmm... this is actually the Heavy Metal or 732B analog:

HGN-IIC-C

[Rhavin]

I run 2 mpl, ac 10 (3 tons ammo), tag, bap, 3 lrm 15 wth artemis and 7 tons ammo. Drop the jumpjets, leave it slow. Not a great brawler at all but in a push with a whale or king crab can really dish out some damage from that second line while takeing a bit in return. I hate LRM assaults in most people's hands, playing this mech at 200 400 range though is fun. If only it had better hit boxes I would straight brawl in it.

[Felio]

Raso, on 02 February 2016 - 06:28 PM, said:

I'm eye balling this. It makes me glad I passed on the Heavy Metal. This looks way more fun!

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a3dca83ff9b45a8

There is no reason to take a standard engine in a clan mech. Clan XL engines do not explode when one side torso is lost. Either the center torso or both side torsos have to be lost.

When I was getting basic XP on this variant, I did something like this, and it was wicked:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c53845166c19893

I can't remember exactly the ammo and heat sinks, but it was those weapons.

[Havyek]

I run 2LPL, GR and 2 LRM20a

It's a mech that's designed to stay at 500-700m, chain fire the LRM 20s, fire the LPL and GR on cool down. It's a little hot, but the heat is manageable (just stop firing the LRM20s for a bit).
I also ran it with a TAG for a while but I can't handle 4 weapon groups.

[Raso]

Felio, on 03 February 2016 - 12:47 PM, said:

There is no reason to take a standard engine in a clan mech. Clan XL engines do not explode when one side torso is lost. Either the center torso or both side torsos have to be lost.

When I was getting basic XP on this variant, I did something like this, and it was wicked:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c53845166c19893

I can't remember exactly the ammo and heat sinks, but it was those weapons.

Do the IICs have case in each component as well?

[sLAyeRiNLovE3]

This mech is a brute!
I completed the challenge very fast.

1x UAC10
2x LPLs
3x A-SRM6
XL 325
1xJJ

If you add Endo + Ferro you can even squeeze a third LPL but it is too hot imo, at least before eliting.

After a lot of play-testing, I find the UAC10 being much better than UAC20. You can actually poke if you want, but when double tapped along with the SRMs, you go straight to the fusion engine.

I would advise being careful with the Heat from LPLs though - on most non-snow maps I chain fire them.

[Jables McBarty]

Historically this has been my most successful of the three. I use this build:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e9113b04f746734

3xcERPPC
1xcUAC5
2xSSRM2 (to spook lights)
TCmk1
cAP
3xJJ
cXL325/Endo/DHS

It runs hot, but you can chainfire 5-6 PPCs and 4 ACs before you need to get under cover. Use buildings to side-poke. After you've softened them up, you can usually lead a successful charge. Something about 90 tons of PPCs bearing down on you makes a lot of people break. But ONLY if you already have an advantage--this ain't an atlas.

I've found in general that the HGN-IICs need to be fire support, whether direct or indirect. Anytime I slap a cUAC20 or SRMs on there I get rekked.

[Jables McBarty]

And since the IICs just came out for MC, I'll put my recent IIC-B build here:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...9ab7621a98491d9

Ironically this is the brawliest I get in the HGN-IICs. 2xLPL, 1xGauss, 4xSSRM4. I usually put AdvZoom and Radar Derp on it. Been having a lot of fun in it lately.

Significantly different from my "traditional" B build--close missile support with 2xALRM20, 2xSSRM6, uAC10

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...97058156c29e935

Last, the IIC-A build that really made the chassis click for me:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...b0eedcee79b602a

This was the inspiration for my IIC(O) build in previous post, however I play the O more than the A now, simply b/c I prefer ballistic/missile builds to laser builds.