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[Mystere]

Mystere, on 02 February 2016 - 07:17 PM, said:

Envy, one of the seven deadly sins, is real.

oldradagast, on 02 February 2016 - 07:23 PM, said:

So, to sum up: They didn't need the freebies, but got them anyway, while others could could benefit from them didn't.

Yeah, I can't imagine why anyone would have a problem with that?

As I was saying ...

[oldradagast]

Mystere, on 02 February 2016 - 07:32 PM, said:

As I was saying ...

Yeah, and so's greed, like begging for freebies when you're the largest and richest team out there that's basically won CW and killed it as a viable format or source of profit for PGI.

Shall we sum up again: Let's give handouts to people who don't need them because the game format that they emptied is now boring. The poor babies.

If you can't see the stupidity to that, well...

Edited by oldradagast, 02 February 2016 - 07:55 PM.

[Aresye]

oldradagast, on 02 February 2016 - 07:28 PM, said:

The purpose of CW is to add game content, not provide a private little seal-clubbing playground where a bunch of tryhards can club seals to their hearts content and then scream all over the forums that they are doing anything but that.

It was also designed for large groups, not, "Solo Queue v2.0."

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[RussianWolf]

Russ could solve this problem instantly by allowing people to split their current accounts in two for CW. One Is account with all their IS mech and one Clan account with all their Clan mechs.

Some people did that at the beinging when the first Clan pack was made available so they can switch back and forth all night long and never pay a fee or have a block out.

But when asked, Russ didn't think it was an issue.

[Sigilum Sanctum]

oldradagast, on 02 February 2016 - 07:28 PM, said:

The purpose of CW is to add game content, not provide a private little seal-clubbing playground where a bunch of tryhards can club seals to their hearts content and then scream all over the forums that they are doing anything but that.

The only hyperbolic nonsense here is that a big team - one that basically "won" CW by helping drive everyone else away - now needs a handout from the very company that is NOT benefiting from the utter ghost town of CW. The stupidity should be obvious, even to those with their heads buried up their rears: PGI doesn't make a dime on CW in its current dead form, and it's doubly stupid giving handouts to people who don't need them while denying the same to people who could benefit.

If anyone thinks big teams were going to leave MW because they were locked out of flipping CW sides for a few days, they are kidding themselves. They are also kidding themselves if they think MS changing sides is going to revitalize the seal-carcass filled wasteland of CW. This is nothing but a handout to people who don't need it so that they don't "stay bored" by the format that they helped drive to its current dead, boring state.

Again, can I get a free Mauler because the current game is "boring?" Same stupid logic.

You seem irrationally upset over something that doesn't seem to affect you in the slightest.

[Adamski]

oldradagast, on 02 February 2016 - 07:33 PM, said:

Yeah, and so's greed, like begging for freebies when you're the largest and richest team out there that's basically won CW and killed it as a viable format or source of profit for PGI.

Shall we sum up again for people who are slow on the uptake: Let's give handouts to people who don't need them because the game format that they emptied is now boring. The poor babies.

If you can't see the stupidity to that, well... that's your problem.

Dude, here is what actually happened:
Large Unit (MS): Hey Russ, CW populations are unbalanced, we can help if you will move us to a Clan faction
Russ: Hey, yeah, that will help my product (MWO / CW) and help create goodwill (Russ & MS are not on the best terms), so sure!
Butthurts: WAAAAH!!! MS GOT SOMETHING FREE!!!

[sycocys]

Stop crying and actually be able to queue matches.

Or actually offer something useful such as:

Get rid of the stupid 3 day penalty. It's simply not necessary in any fashion as long as there's no actual reason to be stuck in a faction. The terrible design of the rewards system combined with the fact that nothing at all matters other than getting drops so until both of those things are fixed there's simply no point in penalizing players/units moving around.

[oldradagast]

Aresye, on 02 February 2016 - 07:34 PM, said:

It was also designed for large groups, not, "Solo Queue v2.0."

Getting butthurt about large units? Go play solo queue where you and every other teamwork hating filth in this game belongs.

I don't hate teamwork, but I do hate hypocritical sociopaths who find clubbing seals amusing while denying it everywhere they go while apparently begging for handouts.

Edited by oldradagast, 02 February 2016 - 07:55 PM.

[Escef]

oldradagast, on 02 February 2016 - 07:23 PM, said:

So, to sum up: ...{Proceeds to miss the point}

Still don't care.

[Mead]

So how about letting my unit out of our contract too? We'll go clan for a week, no problem.

[oldradagast]

Mead, on 02 February 2016 - 07:40 PM, said:

So how about letting my unit out of our contract too? We'll go clan for a week, no problem.

Lol... no, it doesn't work that way, and we all know that.

Edited by oldradagast, 02 February 2016 - 07:54 PM.

[Mead]

Aresye, on 02 February 2016 - 07:34 PM, said:

It was also designed for large groups, not, "Solo Queue v2.0."

Getting butthurt about large units? Go play solo queue where you and every other teamwork hating filth in this game belongs.

Whoa. Only large groups are cool these days?

Okay, so how large does a unit have to be before you don't consider them filth or teamwork-haters? Just curious.

[Kaisha]

oldradagast, on 02 February 2016 - 07:28 PM, said:

The purpose of CW is to add game content, not provide a private little seal-clubbing playground where a bunch of tryhards can club seals to their hearts content and then scream all over the forums that they are doing anything but that.

The only hyperbolic nonsense here is that a big team - one that basically "won" CW by helping drive everyone else away - now needs a handout from the very company that is NOT benefiting from the utter ghost town of CW. The stupidity should be obvious, even to those with their heads buried up their rears: PGI doesn't make a dime on CW in its current dead form, and it's doubly stupid giving handouts to people who don't need them while denying the same to people who could benefit.

If anyone thinks big teams were going to leave MW because they were locked out of flipping CW sides for a few days, they are kidding themselves. They are also kidding themselves if they think MS changing sides is going to revitalize the seal-carcass filled wasteland of CW. This is nothing but a handout to people who don't need it so that they don't "stay bored" by the format that they helped drive to its current dead, boring state.

Again, can I get a free Mauler because the current game is "boring?" Same stupid logic.

As one of those 'seals' I'm with him. CW is empty. It easily take 30+ min (as a clan player, I imagine its worse as an IS player) to get a single match. After all that, the 5m of waiting, loading, etc... I get 5 min of prep and 3s where I go from 100%-0% and then I stare at a drop screen yet again. Out of every hour in CW I get around 2 min total of actual shooting at mechs playtime. I don't even get any appreciable amount of CBills or loyalty from losing. Its literally nothing more than a very boring waste of time.

All us 'newbie' steam players are looking from something apart from Quick Play, as you can only do the same few maps 100x before they get stale. If CW isn't it, then we're just gonna head onto the next game. You can use all the silly elitist talk like 'its only for hard core players', but there'll be no one left to play the game, no one left to walk over and get destroyed repeatedly. The game already has an abysmally low population for an online game as is, do you really want even less players? The game's been in beta for 3 years now and still a complete mess, unbalanced and unfinished, if the community isn't at least remotely inviting, what else is there?

[oldradagast]

Sigilum Sanctum, on 02 February 2016 - 07:35 PM, said:

You seem irrationally upset over something that doesn't seem to affect you in the slightest.

Eh, that depends on how you look at it; even those who don't play CW but who have any investment in MWO should be concerned at this point because it is a drain on resources.

I walked away from CW a long time ago because of the stupid maps, arrogant teams, non-existent matchmaking, and utterly boring and laughably repetitive game play. The horrible behavior of many of the big teams and their laughably denial of their chief motivation - seal clubbing - was the icing on the cake. But the fact remains that every dollar put into it is a dollar PGI has wasted until something is done to end the mindless seal-clubbing that kills the experience for casual players. That's money that could have been spent developing content that actually benefits 99% of the player base, instead of the 1% tryhards that still play CW while spewing venom towards casuals all over these forums. And if PGI fails in part because CW fails, then I lose my investment in the game.

So, when a huge team - the very type of group that has killed CW and "made it boring" by their own actions - gets a handout while casual players can't get a dang thing in that format changed to make it worth playing or worth the money PGI has wasted on it, I get disgusted. They wreck the format and get rewarded, basically, and not a damn thing will change from this handout. CW will still be a pointless ghost town that doesn't make a dime for PGI, but now we can rest assured that since this trend has been set, big teams will expect more handouts in the future or they'll "go elsewhere." Personally, I wouldn't miss them - as the horrible attitude problems on display on this thread illustrate.

Edited by oldradagast, 02 February 2016 - 08:00 PM.

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[Vickinator]

Kaisha, on 02 February 2016 - 07:47 PM, said:

As one of those 'seals' I'm with him. CW is empty. It easily take 30+ min (as a clan player, I imagine its worse as an IS player) to get a single match. After all that, the 5m of waiting, loading, etc... I get 5 min of prep and 3s where I go from 100%-0% and then I stare at a drop screen yet again. Out of every hour in CW I get around 2 min total of actual shooting at mechs playtime. I don't even get any appreciable amount of CBills or loyalty from losing. Its literally nothing more than a very boring waste of time.

All us 'newbie' steam players are looking from something apart from Quick Play, as you can only do the same few maps 100x before they get stale. If CW isn't it, then we're just gonna head onto the next game. You can use all the silly elitist talk like 'its only for hard core players', but there'll be no one left to play the game, no one left to walk over and get destroyed repeatedly. The game already has an abysmally low population for an online game as is, do you really want even less players? The game's been in beta for 3 years now and still a complete mess, unbalanced and unfinished, if the community isn't at least remotely inviting, what else is there?

You can thank the big units all going IS for your inability to find games. Clan have been ground down for about 2 months and its not surprising most have just left CW.

[oldradagast]

Mead, on 02 February 2016 - 07:46 PM, said:

Whoa. Only large groups are cool these days?

Okay, so how large does a unit have to be before you don't consider them filth or teamwork-haters? Just curious.

Big team toolbags always trot out the "hating teamwork" argument against anyone who speaks out against the unbalanced matches in CW and the idiocy of pitting a practiced 12-man against a handful of PUG's and casuals. This is because their argument in favor of such lopsided matches is completely indefensible, so they have to basically attack strawmen to protect their epeens and K/D ratios. It also gives them something stupid to repeat over and over again on the forums to avoid actual conversations about how to salvage what is left of CW.

What I want to know is how big does a team have to be to get special treatment? Also, if we get rewards for making a format "boring," what do I have to do to get free stuff in the solo queue?

Edited by oldradagast, 02 February 2016 - 07:57 PM.

[Adamski]

Vickinator, on 02 February 2016 - 07:50 PM, said:

You can thank the big units all going IS for your inability to find games. Clan have been ground down for about 2 months and its not surprising most have just left CW.

Yeah, FRR got ground down to just our Capital planet and totally gave up on CW.

Oh wait, we ****** up, organized, and mounted a resistance campaign to reclaim planets within the Clan dominion. Didn't even wait for PGI to balance the Clans.

[no one]

Hm. . . nnnope. This is completely unimportant, because cw in it's current form is completely unimportant. You'd have to make me care about cw, or make faction allegiances or sides relevant before I would care about this.

We still drop with mixed IS and clan 'Mechs in quick play because PGI couldn't wrap their heads around asymmetric force balance. That's important. This? nope.

Edited by no one, 02 February 2016 - 08:03 PM.

[Kira Onime]

Who gives a **** really.