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#101 Sug

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 03:53 PM

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Pew pew.

#102 originalvapor

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 03:57 PM

View Postfearfactory, on 22 March 2012 - 12:08 AM, said:

Are you people aware that the Clans are not here yet? This game is basic Inner Sphere tech.

in 3049 in game history the clans are assaulting the periphery and will make first strikes against the DC in a matter of months. Clan design should already be in progress even though the 3050 manual only has 12 mechs.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 04:11 PM

View PostRhinehart, on 06 December 2011 - 07:38 PM, said:

It should look like a Marauder and a Catapult had a kid.

In other words, like a Madcat.


LOL!
So true! It does indeed look the lovechild of a Marauder and a Catapult. I saw a similar non-Mech example once... it's in a mod called Rise Of The Reds, for an old CNC game. Called the Tremor AGAS (I swear it's short for "Tremor Anti-Ground Artillery System"), but the damned thing is the lovechild of a minigun and an artillery battery. That, and any aircraft caught between massive 400mm shell and target gets' pwn'd... hard... with a multi-ton ban hammer.

Ok, now that the mini-rant is over with... Insofar as the Mad Cat (or Timberwolf, for you Clanners) is concerned, if it fails to look the part, and act the part, I shall be most... irate. Irate enough to begin massive LRM-20 and Thunderbolt bombardments against any GMs I should spot in-game with a Catapult... or a Vulture, or a Mad Cat MK2, I've yet to decide. All three have acceptably massive Missile Bays. And they'd be Clan variant LRM-20s... maybe Clan Streak MRM-40s... more missiles. Lots of missiles... perhaps acquiring assistance from other equally-irate players...

Any rate, it would be an absolute sh*t-tonne of assorted warheads bearing down on my target(s). I've always liked exactly 5 Battlemechs... they are... Strider (good Medium 'Mech, great for recon), Catapult, Mad Cat (Timberwolf, whichever), Mad Cat Mk2, and Supernova (always liked a good ER-PPC salvo)... I've never really liked any of the Light 'Mechs... always seem too small to me.

Edited by Voidreaver, 25 March 2012 - 04:20 PM.


#104 THOR HAMMER

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 04:15 PM

Old timberwolf well balaced. PGI will do it justice rest assured .

Edited by THOR HAMMER, 25 March 2012 - 04:16 PM.


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Posted 25 March 2012 - 04:26 PM

View PostGigaton, on 22 March 2012 - 04:32 AM, said:


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That is the aptly-named, and rather... distinct... Urbanmech design... and yes, unfortunately, the design is correct... 'tis a trashcan with legs.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 04:34 PM

View PostShikari, on 21 March 2012 - 03:33 AM, said:

Best looking Timber Wolf is the classic one.
To me it has everything in spite of "sucking-straw" arms or "greenhouse" cockpit. In spite of what self proclaimed "experts" think operational logic means. :)


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Yes... THIS is the true framework for a Mad Cat... and honestly, I've always wanted to start MW4:Mercs with one of these. Even if it were the only one I got. Out of every frigging 'Mech out there, THIS is where it's at!

75-tons, a fine balance of Ballistics, missiles and energy weapons... it's a bit like a well-made .50-cal gatling cannon... elegance, lethality... true artistic slaughter at it's absolute finest. :huh:
I love this 'mech... So much adaptability, so many differing payloads... you can do alot with 75 tons... in fact, the only way I've EVER seen this frame improved, was with the Mad Cat Mk2... another 20 tons to play with, more room, more armor, more speed... believe it or not.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 04:35 PM

This guy has a good rendition.

http://mwomercs.com/...olf%20%20madcat

#108 VarietyOfCells

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 04:48 PM

The Mad Cat is what I used to imagine escorting my school bus to school every morning when I was a kid. Stomping trees over as it made sure whatever tried to attack me in the morning was blown to pieces. The TT model looks nice. Can't wait to play it.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 04:52 PM

i have always loved the cover of the 3050 technical readout. that for me is the iconic picture.
and my smart-*** response is "scrap metal" :)

#110 Uncle Totty

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 06:41 PM

View PostWilliam Petersen, on 25 March 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:


This picture is pretty much the best for the Timber Wolf (Prime). Most other interpretations have LRM15s in the shoulders. They're LRM20s. This picture gets that right. The one thing that bugs me a little is there appear to be 3 M.Guns, 2 in the CT, 1 in the RT. This is inaccurate. The MPLas in the LT is right, but only one M.Gun should be in the CT.


Because that's NOT a Timberwolf Prime. It's a Timberwolf F.

#111 Dymlos2003

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 06:52 PM

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This is how every madcat will look :)

#112 TheGunheart

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 08:19 PM

One thing I would love to see would be for the arms to be bulked up a little. They always looked so...spindly to me. Even more bizarre is the gasket over the elbow joint, since I don't think I've ever seen that thing move.

I'd also like to see a midsection that looks like it was designed to pivot as it wals. I look at the boxart of Mechwarrior 3 and can't help but wonder how the base the legs connect to is supposed to shift like that...

#113 Lightfoot

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 08:36 PM

The best Madcat for me is the one from the original MechCommander intro AVI. .....which won't run in 64bit OS. drat.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 04:31 AM

While not a big fan of the cat... In my minds-eye, based on artwork submitted to us to date, I believe Alex will likely make similar cosmetic changes as he did with the Catapult. He seems to have a keen eye form bringing a hardened militaristic change while still maintaining the iconic shape / silhouette.

I'm pretty sure most users will appreciate the re-boot but at the same time I'll wager there will be a small, albeit highly vocal lynch mob er.. group that will protest vehemently. :)

#115 GratuitousLurking

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:31 PM

By far the only part of the Madcat that may be in danger is those spindlyspindlyness arms of it, though as a thought, perhaps they'd be replaced with payload struts in the new concept? They make relative sence military-wise (at least where fighters and bombers are concerned, not so much tanks), or at least a bulkier arm system that keeps the same sillouette.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 03:00 AM

View Postjuxstapo, on 06 December 2011 - 07:15 PM, said:

Ok, its widely considered the "Iconic" mech, (at least by dint of exposure), right? Notice how many artistic interpretations of the thing there are? Some of which tread into "Downright terrible" territory?

For me, the "true" Mad Cat mental image is the Horizon vinyl model kit, with a nose profile (Center torso? Not really, Head? Nope... nose) rather reminiscent of perhaps a B-25? (Not recalling my WWII era bombers very well).

What is everyone's opinions on how this thing is supposed to look?

It should look the same as it has since as far back as I can remember.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 03:29 AM

View PostDigital Ninja, on 27 March 2012 - 03:00 AM, said:

as far back as I can remember.


the year 2000?

#118 Ravana

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 07:12 PM

I like pretty much like all of the designs for the Timber Wolf. My only issue with it is the Center torso. The whole nose is considered the center torso which means from the front, sides, and slightly behind it, you can hit the center torso. So in my opinion any design that flattens or lessens the nose of the Timber Wolf is better simple so you don't get cored from the side/behind. Sticking the cockpit out in front like that certainly gives the pilot a better view of the battlefield. But you will have a wonderful view of the AC/20 that cored you from the side. This same issue applies to the Mad Dog (not as much) and the Bushwacker (alot worse).

Edited by Ravana, 31 March 2012 - 07:14 PM.


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Posted 31 March 2012 - 11:30 PM

It should look like whatever FD decides it looks like. Seriously, this guy is my new favorite giant robot artist. (I know, 'Mechs aren't TECHNICALLY robots, but that doesn't change anything). Also, the old TT and 3050 TRO look odd to me. Those arms...they're supposed to be heavily armored and what not, but it looks like if it got hit by a brick they'd snap...

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 11:34 AM

Little offtop, but this "mad cat" is fine too:

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