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[Ted Wayz]

The ballistic Rifleman come with 1 or 2 tons of ballistic ammo stock.

1 ton for dual AC5.

2 tons for dual AC10 or LBX10.

Is this thing XL friendly? Otherwise what are you supposed to do? Downgrade the anemic 240 std engine or pull off the two ultra quirked or largely ineffective medium lasers?

Awhile back I went on a little rant about having to put millions of c-bills into a mech that I spent real $$ on only for early access in order to make it playable.

Rinse repeat.

[Roadkill]

Stock builds aren't made for MWO, they're directly copied from TT. 1 ton of ammo is light in TT, but not criplingly so like it is in MWO.

But really, who plays with stock builds anyway? They're the reason that Champion Mechs exist - so that the Champions could replace stock builds as the freely available Mechs.

[Volthorne]

Endosteel. An XL is not a great idea.

What irks me more is that AC/5s, even with +40% velocity and +25% cooldown (42% with the module and skill) are pretty much garbage. If their velocity was maybe, like, 300m/s faster and their cooldown at 1.5s it MIGHT make it worth it to take them over even LB-10s. Yes, I'd rather take LBX's over vanilla AC/5s. Damage spread be damned at least I could actually punch holes in things.

Edited by Volthorne, 16 February 2016 - 03:28 PM.

[Raso]

I find it strange they quicked the laser so much. I always thought the appeal of the Rifleman was it's ballistic slots. IDK I guess PGI was trying to appeal to the laser vomit Meta crowd.

personally I wish the Rifleman got mad RoF and velocity quirks that were specific to their default ballistic weapons (and I suppose a mix of heat, range and velocity to the ERPPC equipped variant).

Let it shine for but a moment as a mighty bullet hose then be a rather meh laser boat (or laser dinghy more accurately). We have about laser vomit going and I feel making the Rifleman distinct would have been a greater value than trying to make it fit in.

That's my 2 cents.

[Ted Wayz]

OMG it gets better. And I am not talking about how they effed up the Legend Killer camo (what happened there?).

Went out with the stock Dual AC10's. At short range they were money, but at any range above 350 they appeared to lose convergence?! I could put my reticle in mid torso and watch the rounds pass on both sides of my target?! What the heck!

This thing is looking worse than the Black Knight when it came out.

[Mechwarrior1441491]

Roadkill, on 16 February 2016 - 03:25 PM, said:

Stock builds aren't made for MWO, they're directly copied from TT. 1 ton of ammo is light in TT, but not criplingly so like it is in MWO.

But really, who plays with stock builds anyway? They're the reason that Champion Mechs exist - so that the Champions could replace stock builds as the freely available Mechs.

Many other elements aren't directly copied from TT. Actually, they make a point to say that much of the time it isn't good for the game.

[Ted Wayz]

Roadkill, on 16 February 2016 - 03:25 PM, said:

But really, who plays with stock builds anyway?

Don't get the stock mech crowd riled up.

[FupDup]

The Rifleman wasn't actually a pure ballistic boat mech for most variants, it's a combination of energy/ballistic for the most part.

If you want pure dakka get a Jagermech, they're much better at it due to their 5 ton advantage (ballistics are heavy yo).

[Roadkill]

xMADCATTERx, on 16 February 2016 - 04:12 PM, said:

Many other elements aren't directly copied from TT. Actually, they make a point to say that much of the time it isn't good for the game.

Sure, but the builds themselves are ported straight outta Compton TT. It's either that or pay someone (LOL) to create all new builds for every Mech that they produce, and TBH I'm not sure those would be any more balanced.

Ted Wayz, on 16 February 2016 - 04:20 PM, said:

Don't get the stock mech crowd riled up.

*poke* *poke*
They're fun in private matches for things like Stock Mech Mondays, but for the most part completely useless in Solo, Group, or CW. There are a (rare) few exceptions, but the vast majority are crap in MWO.

[Revis Volek]

Endosteel and DHS


Makes lots of tonnage but will take up crits of course, You should really be looking into making the build better. Playing STOCK is setting yourself up for disaster and frustration.

[sycocys]

Everyone should run them with XL engines until they come out for c-bills.

[Trauglodyte]

TED, you're probably experiencing the issue with convergence when you don't have the tier 2 efficiency. Take a brand new mech, slap in 2 ppcs in each arm, and then hit a target as you spin your torso. Most of the time, you'll see the PPC bolts criss cross in front of the target. Once you get the efficiency, that problem goes away.

[Alex Morgaine]

Revis Volek, on 16 February 2016 - 05:43 PM, said:

Endosteel and DHS


Makes lots of tonnage but will take up crits of course, You should really be looking into making the build better. Playing STOCK is setting yourself up for disaster and frustration.

Do the standard gauss/already built in vomit work fine in them? Could almost do that with just dhs tax, endo and you could up the engine even standard type to at least 10 true dub, probably max xl? Don't know cause dead pc (yay brokes) so too lazy to try to build from laggy phone.

[Chuck Jager]

Ted Wayz, on 16 February 2016 - 04:20 PM, said:

Don't get the stock mech crowd riled up.

I would not worry about it. The stock mech lovers are like the MWO version of a kick me dog. Just rattle the fence when you go by. Their bark is a lot worse than the potential alpha.

[627]

did no one of you took the time and made some build with smurfy and the dragon/IV4?

I mean it was obvious what this mech will be capable of (and what not) once you add armor...

[Revis Volek]

627, on 16 February 2016 - 11:38 PM, said:

did no one of you took the time and made some build with smurfy and the dragon/IV4?

I mean it was obvious what this mech will be capable of (and what not) once you add armor...

Caveat Emptor