88 replies to this topic

[Zolaz]

Hmmmm ... I am using a Shadowcat and a LRM Battlemaster to climb in tier 2. Meta mechs are easier but then I have longer wait times just playing Heavies. Play your hour every day and some more on the weekends and your tier will go up faster.

[KaitRaven]

You're not using a joystick to aim, are you?

[Shura1986]

Hello, you can try playing group queue with people above you psr so you can prove your skills against t2 t1 players. I am a new tier 3 and i miss the tier 4 lone wolf style. First matches at t3 where fast deaths. You have exp at the game try command your team, help them help you climb the psr rating.
What mechs you play?
I think artic cheeta, firestarter, hellbringer, king crab, battlemaster, are the best to play solo and get high scores.
Sorry if i write bad. I am spanish speaking.

[Horth]

I've been playing MWO for a week and a half and just hit tier 3.. according to my profile, 277 matches played. So the tiers seem to move pretty quick for new players at least.

Be careful what you wish for though, since hitting tier 3 every player seems amazing and the matches are quite tough. Can't just run around easily anymore

[maxdest]

As others say, the bar can rise very slowly for older players (new players get a bonus for first X games)

If you are not seeing any movement after 100's of wins, and your win/loss is around 1:1 I would raise a support ticket. For all the anecdotal evidence of other people moving up tiers, there is always a possibility that something on your account is actually broken and needs a fix.

Edited by maxdest, 24 February 2016 - 03:14 PM.

[Mister Blastman]

Zensei, on 23 February 2016 - 05:49 PM, said:

way more wins that losses, way more kills than deaths, thousands of games and still the same, if I cant get over 1 hump then 3 humps are impossible. tiers 1 and 2 guys will never play me.

You are tier 4 for a reason then. You say you have more kills than deaths, more wins than losses... perhaps it is your performance in the games that count that is lacking...

The easy win games? Those are easy. But the games where you're supposed to lose... are you carrying your team? If you aren't... well, there's your reason why you aren't going up.

[Troutmonkey]

Zensei, on 23 February 2016 - 06:58 PM, said:

I wish you could see others stats by looking at their profile, just tried it, guess what, you cant see their stats.

1. What is your current tier?
2. What is your K/D?
3. What is your W/L?
4. What is your current game count?
5. What mechs do you normally play?

When tiers came in I started in T3 and quickly moved to T2, but have now been stuck in T2 for months, only about a quarter of the way through. I'm okay with this as I get balanced games and I'm not good enough for T1. I have a 1.56K/D, 1.12W/L and usually pilot medium IS mechs or assaults, mostly Cicadas and Stalkers

Moving from T5/T4/T3 is easy. Moving up from T2 is very slow

[Roadkill]

Troutmonkey, on 24 February 2016 - 03:49 PM, said:

1. What is your current tier?
2. What is your K/D?
3. What is your W/L?
4. What is your current game count?
5. What mechs do you normally play?

This is all basically irrelevant.

K/D and W/L have no bearing. OMGWTFBBQ?!?!? you scream?

Vastly simplified, but:

What matters is that you score 250+ match score in losses regularly, and score 250+ in wins at least as often as you fail to score 250+ in a loss. Furthermore, you need to score 400+ in wins at least as often as you fail to score 100+ in a loss.

If you're typically scoring 100-250 in a loss, and 250-400 in a win, then you're just treading water.

[Trauglodyte]

Getting hosed by the MM is one way to have a situation where you can't tier up. So far tonight I've won 2 games out of 20. In all but 5 of them, I've lead the boards on damage and kills. I swear, the game tilts players by surrounding them with people that shouldn't be in the same game. To say that your personal performance is an indicator, though, is incorrect when you're one of the last few people alive in a game where half of the team did under 150 damage. What do you do with that? Nothing - you take a big bite out of the **** taco and you move on hoping that something will change.

[Troutmonkey]

Roadkill, on 24 February 2016 - 03:55 PM, said:

This is all basically irrelevant.

K/D and W/L have no bearing. OMGWTFBBQ?!?!? you scream?

Vastly simplified, but:

What matters is that you score 250+ match score in losses regularly, and score 250+ in wins at least as often as you fail to score 250+ in a loss. Furthermore, you need to score 400+ in wins at least as often as you fail to score 100+ in a loss.

If you're typically scoring 100-250 in a loss, and 250-400 in a win, then you're just treading water.

If his KD is terrible he's not getting high scores.
If his WL is terrible he's not getting enough wins
If his game count is low, he simply hasn't played enough

[Anastasius]

Operator error.

[Navid A1]

Zensei, on 23 February 2016 - 05:43 PM, said:

really starting to turn me off, not paying anything but still. same tier since they were created.

Impossible.

PSR is just an XP bar.
No matter how bad or good you are, you will end up in T1 eventually. You just need to keep at it.

[Trauglodyte]

Yes, it is an XP bar that is unfortunately tied to the 11 people with whom you drop. You do well if they do well. You get screwed if they play like garbage and you play well. You've got to try extremely hard in games when you've got those 2-3 idiots that die within the first moments of the game and that isn't easy. Nothing that they do has any bearing on how good you are at piloting or aiming. Yet, they still drag you down or, in some instances, pull you up.

[Revis Volek]

Roadkill, on 24 February 2016 - 03:55 PM, said:

This is all basically irrelevant.

K/D and W/L have no bearing. OMGWTFBBQ?!?!? you scream?

Vastly simplified, but:

What matters is that you score 250+ match score in losses regularly, and score 250+ in wins at least as often as you fail to score 250+ in a loss. Furthermore, you need to score 400+ in wins at least as often as you fail to score 100+ in a loss.

If you're typically scoring 100-250 in a loss, and 250-400 in a win, then you're just treading water.

Its not irrelevant at all, its the only tangible things we have to measure skill at all in this game.

Amount of games, avg k/d and avg w/l are very good indicators of where you sit. Yes many other factor are needed to get ACCURATE skill levels too but this is a great baseline to start with.

Edited by Revis Volek, 24 February 2016 - 04:21 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

Give me yo' deets, I'll level that account for you...

[Malachy Karrde]

Rhaythe, on 23 February 2016 - 05:46 PM, said:

So?

Tiers are not objectives. Tiers are designed to put you in games that are competitive to your skill level. If you're not moving around at all, then it's working as designed.

haha responses like this Crack me up. I've played against all tiers and there are good pilots in all of them. There are piss poor pilots in all of them too. Psr means nothing at all. The ones that worship the almighty Psr are usually the worst players. My advice is to ignore Psr entirely and anyone who even mentions it as a reason you should listen to their advice.

Edited by Malachy Karrde, 24 February 2016 - 05:18 PM.

[S 0 L E N Y A]

I hit T2 pretty recently.

Pretty much stopped playing "serious" builds around that point too.
Despite using a lot of goof troop builds as of late PSR is still moving up (much more slowly) though I honestly think my W/L and K/D are moving down.

[jaxjace]

Nauht, on 23 February 2016 - 06:14 PM, said:

Does that even make a difference? Sometimes I can only fit in literally only 1 or 2 games a night and when I do well in that one game I see my bar move up ever so slightly but it is noticeable.

Thats why. Try playing 40-50 games a night, it will move.

[Y E O N N E]

jaxjace, on 24 February 2016 - 06:15 PM, said:

Thats why. Try playing 40-50 games a night, it will move.

I play maybe two nights a week, about 10-15 games each. Half that time is in things like a Mist Lynx or ERPPC Shadow Cat. Or an Atlas, in which I am a complete derp.

It still moves up.

Honestly, the only excuse for it to not move is being both bad at winning and not playing often enough. PSR is so forgiving that you can screw around in silly sh*t all night, then play two or three matches with a good 'Mech and still progress.

[SkaerKrow]

When I started playingbthis game last may, I bought the Panther Resistance Pack and the Pretty Baby, and proceeded to play borh of them like complete trash (to be fair, I was a true noob), coming away with some truly awful stats. Even with that deficit behind me, now I'm up into Tier IV, and am still climbing. I'm nothing special, so if you can't get your PSR up even through half-way decent play then you're either having craptacular team luck, or something's glitched.