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#21 AnswerIsOne

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Posted 03 March 2016 - 07:57 AM

Macross is where the original Idea came from for Battletech, originally called Battledroids.

I'm super excited to get into a Veritech Fighter (wrong universe or not)
Just for the Origin Value.

Edited by Answer74, 03 March 2016 - 08:40 AM.


#22 Metus regem

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Posted 03 March 2016 - 08:18 AM

View PostAnswer74, on 03 March 2016 - 07:57 AM, said:

across is where the original Idea came from.

I'm super excited to get into a Veritech Fighter (wrong universe or not)



Not just any VF, but a Strike Valkyrie! Well Super Veritech Fighter to Robotech fans...

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Posted 03 March 2016 - 08:49 AM

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#24 Metus regem

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Posted 03 March 2016 - 09:03 AM

View PostAnswer74, on 03 March 2016 - 08:49 AM, said:

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Love me a WHM-6R, or Tomahawk to Macross fans or Excalibur to Robotech fans...

Also love that you have the "battledroids" edition, before Lucas films went after them...

#25 Konrad

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 08:09 AM

Is anyone else worried that Phoenix Hawk will be Shadow Hawk HUGE?

#26 martian

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 08:30 AM

View PostKonrad, on 15 March 2016 - 08:09 AM, said:

Is anyone else worried that Phoenix Hawk will be Shadow Hawk HUGE?

Do not panic!

The only thing we have is the concept art - exactly just one picture. Nothing else.

#27 Gyrok

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 08:37 AM

View PostWintersdark, on 02 March 2016 - 08:48 PM, said:

Nostalgia, sure, for those of us who suffer from that. That's totally my motivation.

But powercreep? Really? Have you looked at it's hardpoints/locations? The only reason it has any place at all in the try-hard medium lineup is ECM and/or MASC.

But that MASC version? Jebus. Just how fast is it going to go? around 160 kph before MASC??

Even so, that's sporting 3E 2B, with 5.5t payload space. That's just not an intimidating loadout.


~139 kph after speed tweak, before MASC. ~167 after MASC

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 08:51 AM

View Postmartian, on 15 March 2016 - 08:30 AM, said:

Do not panic!

The only thing we have is the concept art - exactly just one picture. Nothing else.


Queue the Phatnix Hawk

#29 Wintersdark

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 08:51 AM

View PostGyrok, on 15 March 2016 - 08:37 AM, said:


~139 kph after speed tweak, before MASC. ~167 after MASC
Thanks.

Still, a 45 ton mech running at 167kph is insanely fast.

#30 jss78

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 09:02 AM

To be fair, it IS a little out of place with that comparatively obvious anime heritage. Opinions might vary though on qhether it's out of place in an awesome way or in a silly way. I favour the former! Could've been even closer to the original (like the Archer IMO is).

#31 C E Dwyer

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 12:11 PM

View PostQueek Head Taker, on 02 March 2016 - 04:47 PM, said:

Wow! I look the Phoenix Hawk and I don't like it at all! I reminds of Macross or Robotech.... not mechwarrior... anyone else share this feeling?

I smell troll, lost your bridge ?

#32 C E Dwyer

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 12:23 PM

View PostAnswer74, on 03 March 2016 - 08:49 AM, said:

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wow last time I saw that box top, was in the shop I worked in, I couldn't stand the Name, from my point of view, Lucas getting antsy and changing the name was what got me interested.

Battle droids sounded to much like a milton bradly kids game ;)

#33 LT. HARDCASE

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 12:27 PM

View PostKonrad, on 15 March 2016 - 08:09 AM, said:

Is anyone else worried that Phoenix Hawk will be Shadow Hawk HUGE?

No, because of PGI currently shrinking mechs and the size of recently released mediums (Crab,SCat), I expect the Phawk to be a really small chassis.

Edited by LT. HARDCASE, 15 March 2016 - 12:28 PM.


#34 Konrad

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 01:52 PM

View PostLT. HARDCASE, on 15 March 2016 - 12:27 PM, said:

No, because of PGI currently shrinking mechs and the size of recently released mediums (Crab,SCat), I expect the Phawk to be a really small chassis.


That is what they said about the Shadow Hawk too.

#35 Ryllen Kriel

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 03:21 PM

Yes, I hate the Phoenix Hawk so much, I just bought some today. Yep, I folded. I can't wait for June! And, as others have said, Battletech wouldn't exist without the Macross Saga/Robotech. So many classic mech designs come straight from it.

Just so you know PGI, if I have to hear Minmay sing "My Boyfriend is a Pilot" during combat then it's a deal breaker! I will sell my Phoenix Hawks!

Edited by Ryllen Kriel, 16 March 2016 - 03:24 PM.


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Posted 17 March 2016 - 12:01 AM

View PostRyllen Kriel, on 16 March 2016 - 03:21 PM, said:

Yes, I hate the Phoenix Hawk so much, I just bought some today. Yep, I folded. I can't wait for June! And, as others have said, Battletech wouldn't exist without the Macross Saga/Robotech. So many classic mech designs come straight from it.

Just so you know PGI, if I have to hear Minmay sing "My Boyfriend is a Pilot" during combat then it's a deal breaker! I will sell my Phoenix Hawks!



SO MUCH THIS!!! I wish I could choke Minmay out >:) The worst part of the Macross/Robotech plot was that trite love story between her and Rick Hunter. I mean... Lisa was the obvious choice from the beginning.

#37 Metus regem

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Posted 17 March 2016 - 07:18 AM

View PostBergitor, on 17 March 2016 - 12:01 AM, said:



SO MUCH THIS!!! I wish I could choke Minmay out >:) The worst part of the Macross/Robotech plot was that trite love story between her and Rick Hunter. I mean... Lisa was the obvious choice from the beginning.


Minmay is a teenage girl in every sense of the meaning. Lisa (Misa in Macross) is a professional, whom holds the Naval rank of LT. Command at the start of the series, making her by nature more mature. Rick Hunter is just being lead around by his **** for the most part.... Folker was my favorite character from Macross/Robotech.

#38 Ryllen Kriel

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Posted 17 March 2016 - 02:18 PM

View PostMetus regem, on 17 March 2016 - 07:18 AM, said:

Minmay is a teenage girl in every sense of the meaning. Lisa (Misa in Macross) is a professional, whom holds the Naval rank of LT. Command at the start of the series, making her by nature more mature. Rick Hunter is just being lead around by his **** for the most part.... Folker was my favorite character from Macross/Robotech.


Roy Fokker was a great character, I also liked Max more than Rick/Hikaru. It was mostly Minmay's fault but they were dumb teens and even as a child their romance was kind of annoying. I liked Lisa/Misa much better even then. Max and Miriya/Milia were a much cooler couple in my opinion. Damn, memories, I need to re-watch some of this stuff!

#39 Metus regem

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Posted 17 March 2016 - 02:22 PM

View PostRyllen Kriel, on 17 March 2016 - 02:18 PM, said:


Roy Fokker was a great character, I also liked Max more than Rick/Hikaru. It was mostly Minmay's fault but they were dumb teens and even as a child their romance was kind of annoying. I liked Lisa/Misa much better even then. Max and Miriya/Milia were a much cooler couple in my opinion. Damn, memories, I need to re-watch some of this stuff!


Fokker's death was such a shocker for me, the first time I saw it, never in my life at that point (read under 10) had a main character in one of 'my shows' die.

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Posted 17 March 2016 - 02:41 PM

View PostMetus regem, on 17 March 2016 - 02:22 PM, said:


Fokker's death was such a shocker for me, the first time I saw it, never in my life at that point (read under 10) had a main character in one of 'my shows' die.


I had the same experience myself. Characters didn't die in most cartoons/anime that I had seen at that point. It left an impression and made me an anime fan at an early age.





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