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[brophy79]

Why are macros still allowed? This is cheating! Allowing weapons to fire faster and generating less heat than attended is cheating. The only way to combat this is for everyone to use them, If this is the case them why doesn't pgi include this in the game? If this is not sorted good luck with making this a competitive game.

[Sandpit]

not it isn't

On a sidenote, how exactly would you propose this be monitored? Is PGI supposed to sit behind every player in the game and look over their shoulder to enforce it?

Edited by Sandpit, 03 March 2016 - 12:38 PM.

[Revis Volek]

brophy79, on 03 March 2016 - 12:29 PM, said:

Why are macros still allowed? This is cheating! Allowing weapons to fire faster and generating less heat than attended is cheating. The only way to combat this is for everyone to use them, If this is the case them why doesn't pgi include this in the game? If this is not sorted good luck with making this a competitive game.

There is nothing a macro can do (heat wise) that your fingers cannot....

Lack of understanding how things works seems to be why you think macros are cheating. Macros are not cheating, not even close and this is from someone who is waaay to lazy to even set them up myself.


Some competitive type use macros, some dont. Forcing macro use into your game in no way makes it all of a sudden competitive.

Edited by Revis Volek, 03 March 2016 - 12:43 PM.

[Burke IV]

It IS cheating, its too hard to police / no body cares. Use of external software to gain an advantage.

brophy79, on 03 March 2016 - 12:29 PM, said:

The only way to combat this is for everyone to use them, If this is the case them why doesn't pgi include this in the game?

Absolutely right. If macros wont be banned then just build it into the weapon groups screen in teh mech lab

[Mcgral18]

It's that time of the month, I see.

[ComradeHavoc]

Macros wouldn't even be a problem if the firegroup system wasn't so simple and lazy.

[TKSax]

brophy79, on 03 March 2016 - 12:29 PM, said:

This is cheating! Allowing weapons to fire faster and generating less heat than attended is cheating.

LOL yes those macros that kill the heat gen and recycle time of weapons are game breaking... lol

[Mcgral18]

brophy79, on 03 March 2016 - 12:29 PM, said:

Why are macros still allowed? This is cheating! Allowing weapons to fire faster and generating less heat than attended is cheating.

And now, please explain these lies of yours.

Which weapons fire faster with Macros? If you use a Macro, they fire SLOWER, FYI, because they no longer fire at recycle (not reliably, at least).

Now, which weapon generates less heat exclusively due to Macros? The Flamer? That wasn't Macro exclusive, the Heat Retention was the same duration as the firing time. Shoot for 1 second, let go for 1 second, you lost the multiplier.

Now, it's changed to 4.75s+Firing Duration. You don't want to Macro that.

Edited by Mcgral18, 03 March 2016 - 12:57 PM.

[Mead]

[Sandpit]

Burke IV, on 03 March 2016 - 12:41 PM, said:

It IS cheating, its too hard to police / no body cares. Use of external software to gain an advantage.

Can you show me where in the rules it's cheating or perhaps anyone from PGI stating this?

Do you really think this is the first time this discussion has come up in 4 years?
Do you really think PGI hasn't made statements on this exact subject in previous threads?

It's not cheating.
That's a factual statement because it's not against the factual rules.

Your opinion is that it is cheating.

Now, which do you think has more authority in regards to declaring what cheating is.
You?
or the company the developed the game?

[Dread Render]

TKSax, on 03 March 2016 - 12:44 PM, said:

LOL yes those macros that kill the heat gen and recycle time of weapons are game breaking... lol

LOL bla bla bla lol. I bet you use it hu?

The Macro Totally should be in game and it is just lazy that it is not.

LOL

Edited by Render, 03 March 2016 - 12:52 PM.

[Burke IV]

Can you fire your AC at time specific intervals with your fingers? Does using the exact timings bring an advantage. Its common sense

[Oderint dum Metuant]

brophy79, on 03 March 2016 - 12:29 PM, said:

Why are macros still allowed? This is cheating! Allowing weapons to fire faster and generating less heat than attended is cheating. The only way to combat this is for everyone to use them, If this is the case them why doesn't pgi include this in the game? If this is not sorted good luck with making this a competitive game.

Macros cant make a weapon fire faster (than what your fingers can already attempt to do) or alter it's heat generation.

[Mead]

Burke IV, on 03 March 2016 - 12:51 PM, said:

Can you fire your AC at time specific intervals with your fingers? Does using the exact timings bring an advantage. Its common sense

No it isn't.

[CDLord HHGD]

It's not cheating but it is exploiting.

[Sandpit]

Burke IV, on 03 March 2016 - 12:51 PM, said:

Can you fire your AC at time specific intervals with your fingers?

yes, it's called eye-to-hand coordination, practice, and timing.

are you saying there's something physically preventing you form doing this???

[Burke IV]

Sandpit, on 03 March 2016 - 12:52 PM, said:

yes, it's called eye-to-hand coordination, practice, and timing.

are you saying there's something physically preventing you form doing this???

so why do you need teh macro?

[TKSax]

Render, on 03 March 2016 - 12:50 PM, said:

LOL bla bla bla lol. I bet you use it hu?

The Macro Totally should be in game and it is just lazy that it is not.

LOL

Nah tried a few (Guass, AC macros) did not like them, the were to inflexible.

Burke IV, on 03 March 2016 - 12:53 PM, said:

so why do you need teh macro?

You don't that's the point.

[Dread Render]

Why are you people lying that it is not an advantage... It Totally Is.. and you Use It!!
It lets you fire the Max amount of times without overheating!

It needs to be In Game... Only solution.

[Burke IV]

I can just imagine evrybody running round with macros