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[Johnny Z]

cdlord, on 15 March 2016 - 07:25 AM, said:

Care to expunge on that? I mean, sure you disagree with something I said, but no idea what, it not all, and why and what you'd prefer? We can agree to disagree, but I'd like your take on it.

Post 3050 the genre edges closer to the anime feel which is part of the reason it lost popularity (that and power creep and lame story arcs).

I'm supposing that Blade Runner and the Star Wars movies had at least some part to play in the make up of Battletech/MechWarrior fiction...

Have to think the Matrix here to... and really how science fiction has evolved over the years.

Edited by Johnny Z, 15 March 2016 - 07:34 AM.

[Metus regem]

Johnny Z, on 15 March 2016 - 07:33 AM, said:

I'm supposing that Blade Runner and the Star Wars movies had at least some part to play in the make up of Battletech/MechWarrior fiction...

Have to think the Matrix here to... and really how science fiction has evolved over the years.

ugh I feel dirty, I actually agree with Johnny "Anti-Clan crusader" Z about something....

[Johnny Z]

Metus regem, on 15 March 2016 - 07:38 AM, said:

ugh I feel dirty, I actually agree with Johnny "Anti-Clan crusader" Z about something....

Well it isn't a popularity contest.

[Escef]

Metus regem, on 15 March 2016 - 07:22 AM, said:

I would like to see things like a computer controlled stability system rather than a gyro, ...

The gyro is computer controlled. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Gyro

Johnny Z, on 15 March 2016 - 07:33 AM, said:

I'm supposing that Blade Runner and the Star Wars movies had at least some part to play in the make up of Battletech/MechWarrior fiction...

Have to think the Matrix here to... and really how science fiction has evolved over the years.

I think the Mad Max movies might have played a role as well. The 3rd Succession War was originally billed as a scavenger economy with a post-apocalyptic industrial base.

[Metus regem]

Escef, on 15 March 2016 - 07:44 AM, said:

The gyro is computer controlled. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Gyro

I was thinking more a long the lines of a Fly by wire system....

[Johnny Z]

Escef, on 15 March 2016 - 07:46 AM, said:

The gyro is computer controlled. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Gyro



I think the Mad Max movies might have played a role as well. The 3rd Succession War was originally billed as a scavenger economy with a post-apocalyptic industrial base.

Sure. Lostech being one of the best parts.

As well as using how science fiction has evolved maybe parts of real world history as well. That's the best thing about fiction.

Two of the most interesting parts of real world history I am aware of are these.

That original Roman legions that were ancient, were still marching well after the advent of gunpowder in defense of Constantinople.

The sight of a villager rowing a handmade boat past the Light of Alexandria and thinking gods must have built it.

Edited by Johnny Z, 15 March 2016 - 08:10 AM.

[Escef]

Metus regem, on 15 March 2016 - 07:47 AM, said:

I was thinking more a long the lines of a Fly by wire system....

Problem with that is if you are running full tilt and lose a limb the sudden loss of mass and shift in balance would probably be too much for such a thing without computer assistance.

[Lucian Nostra]

I dont think battletech needs a complete reboot, but I would change a few things like some of the more questionable parts of the Clans. For a society all about conversation and not wanting to waste stuff they spend a lot of time throwing away military strength in pissing contests.

I would also roll back the timeline to about the start of the FedCom civil war, Battletech has a history of armies cropping up but often it can be explained like Amaris's forces, the mechs sold to periphery nations to fuel the war there. The Clans building their own and coming back with them but FedCom war is where it just starts to go downhill and the Jihad just gets into fullbown garbage. From that point on I just don't find the story interesting in the slightest. As much as I enjoyed the clicks game I'll never understand why they felt they HAD to make all that canon and run with it either.. drop it all and continue as if it never happened

As for "Clans are the worst thing to happen to BT" no.. FASA not creating battle value until years after was one of the worst things. (we played tonnage until than but it wasn't hard to figure out you couldn't go equal tonnage, we ended up around half)

[CDLord HHGD]

Escef, on 15 March 2016 - 07:46 AM, said:

The gyro is computer controlled. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Gyro



I think the Mad Max movies might have played a role as well. The 3rd Succession War was originally billed as a scavenger economy with a post-apocalyptic industrial base.

Oooo, I like this! Let's (re)define each era!

Unification Era -- World War II?
Star League Era -- NATO/UN?
Amaris Civil War Era --
First Succession War -- World War I?
Second Succession War -- Cold-War World War III?
Third Succession War -- Post apocalyptic industrial.
Fourth Succession War --
War of 3039/Ronin Wars --
Clan Invasion --

Edited by cdlord, 15 March 2016 - 07:57 AM.

[Metus regem]

Escef, on 15 March 2016 - 07:51 AM, said:

Problem with that is if you are running full tilt and lose a limb the sudden loss of mass and shift in balance would probably be too much for such a thing without computer assistance.

That's what Fly By Wire is... it is a computer controlled system, that make minor corrections to the aircraft to keep it stable, with out pilot input. Most modern combat aircraft have it already. Things like the F/A-18 could not fly with out it, the air-frame is inherently unstable.

[CDLord HHGD]

Metus regem, on 15 March 2016 - 07:59 AM, said:

That's what Fly By Wire is... it is a computer controlled system, that make minor corrections to the aircraft to keep it stable, with out pilot input. Most modern combat aircraft have it already. Things like the F/A-18 could not fly with out it, the air-frame is inherently unstable.

I always imagined the mechanic gyro is what maintained a "mechanical" balance and inputs from the pilot's balance would force the gyro into a compensative pitch or yaw to pull it back under control. If the pilot felt like he was falling forward in such a way as to be bad (vertigo) then the system would pitch the gyro back a bit to compensate and allow the mechanism to pull the mech back upright. Of course there's a degree of no return...

Edited by cdlord, 15 March 2016 - 08:18 AM.

[Metus regem]

cdlord, on 15 March 2016 - 08:17 AM, said:

I always imagined the mechanic gyro is what maintained a "mechanical" balance and inputs from the pilot's balance would force the gyro into a compensative pitch or yaw to pull it back under control. If the pilot felt like he was falling forward in such a way as to be bad (vertigo) then the system would pitch the gyro back a bit to compensate and allow the mechanism to pull the mech back upright. Of course there's a degree of no return...

Likely.

But with current servo motors and a computer control system, the same thing could be archived for less weight I would imagine.