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[Revis Volek]

Johnny Z, on 22 March 2016 - 03:08 PM, said:

Your not even speaking sense. A few times a week really? Or your just making up wild claims or having flashbacks?

I couldn't be bothered to spend 1 minute of time on the trash cheating in game. They should try harder maybe.

Argueing on the forums where players or trolls or what ever like you openly defend hackers I find amusing.

Please show me where i DEFENDED hackers.


Saying you want to see proof and be 100% certain about something BEFORE you point fingers is in no way DEFENDING anyone.


Your tenuous grasp of English seems to have failed you.

[dervishx5]

Johnny Z, on 22 March 2016 - 03:12 PM, said:

Wouldn't know never seen you play.

You have to understand theres peeps hired to take care of the cheats in game. I get a laugh out of seeing how it plays out on the forums.

This isn't your private team speak where you can bully behind closed doors.

Gas knows what he's talking about. He's a better pilot than you are and I've never even seen you play. Maybe you should provide evidence rather than tell stories and people will give you more credibility.

[Revis Volek]

Johnny Z, on 22 March 2016 - 03:12 PM, said:

Wouldn't know never seen you play.

You have to understand theres peeps hired to take care of the cheats in game. I get a laugh out of seeing how it plays out on the forums.

This isn't your private team speak where you can bully behind closed doors.

Where did he Bully you? Or anyone for that matter? I dont think you understand that word but you are using it like you do...

Everything i say here i would gladly say to your face in front of this whole community, i think Gas feels the same way.

[Johnny Z]

Thanks for not disappointing me guys. You had me worried there for a sec. Well not really.

Edited by Johnny Z, 22 March 2016 - 03:20 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Johnny Z, on 22 March 2016 - 03:12 PM, said:

This isn't your private team speak where you can bully behind closed doors.

[dervishx5]

Johnny Z, on 22 March 2016 - 03:20 PM, said:

Thanks for not disappointing me guys. You had me worried there for a sec. Well not really.

[SplashDown]

Cathy, on 22 March 2016 - 02:41 PM, said:

This when it boils down to it is a thread started because OP thinks its not fair to not always win all the time and wants clan to be the bestest, regardless of trying to make a game that suits all and is blanced

WOW another ignant statement...kuados

Johnny Z, on 22 March 2016 - 02:50 PM, said:

I just finished a match, just before server shutdown, where a player fired his SRM's before the target was even in view hitting him as he came around the corner. He was in the tunnel and moving so it wasn't seismic. There was no UAV outside. You know what that was I seen? Wall hacks, 100%.

Don't tell me these guys are not fixing matches to get the wins when ever it serves them....

This thread has nothing to do with cheats..go start a new thread with ur tears of wtfOMGpwnt!


i luv how some players try to have a constructive discussion about clan mechs only to get flooded by the same IS whiners that cry'd about getting owned all the time and they offer no real opinion or constructive discussion to solve the problem.
Now im all for balance..do i think both sides should be the same..no i dont..each side should have its diff to make the sides unique.
However i dun care if ur IS player or Clan player you all know that PGI has a record of over compensating with the nerf bat.

Now just to be clear here..OP is not saying super nerf or super buff anything nor am i.
All im saying is even tho im all for balance..wich did bring IS up to speed ...PGI went over the top when nerfing many clan mechs..making said mechs pointless to play..and since clans have far fewer mechs to choose from this does need to be fixed.
Heck maybe they can add some love to the clan and IS mechs no-1 plays anymore just becuz specific mechs wer just terribad from the start.

Edited by SplashDown, 22 March 2016 - 04:07 PM.

[Rocket2Uranus]

Clan mech was horribly (or more horrible?) before. I remember Direwolf had the +7% energy weapon cool down querk on some of the omnipods.

Personally Clan I don't believe are under powered (per say).

But I 100% agree that there are unbalances in game mechanics, mechs and weapons in game which seems to be bringing down the whole game.

Edited by Rocket2Uranus, 22 March 2016 - 04:08 PM.

[SplashDown]

Rocket2Uranus, on 22 March 2016 - 04:07 PM, said:

Clan mech was horribly (or more horrible?) before. I remember Direwolf had the +7% energy weapon cool down querk on some of the omnipods.

Personally Clan I don't believe are under powered (per say).

But I 100% agree that there are unbalances in game mechanics, mechs and weapons in game which seems to be bringing down the whole game.

Weapon balance is pretty good these days...weapons for the 2 sides not suposed to be identicle...and you must be a die hard IS player becuz you clearly dunno anyhting about clan mechs as they are in the game now.
Some clan mechs are ok and in line with everything else..BUT 75-80% of clan mechs are so under powerd now its pointless to use them.

[Rejarial Galatan]

this is something that has pissed me off for ages, and its honestly RUSS BULLOCKS fault. No seriously, its HIS fault. See, the thing is, in terms of raw power, clan tech IS superior to inner sphere, and this HAS been the case since mechwarrior was only battletech table top games. Its how the clans were able to steam roll the innersphere all the way to tukayyid and were only then stopped by the innersphere thanks to the clans being honorable and the innersphere being, well a bunch of cheating tools.

the ONLY reason I can see for this travesty is that the whiners and die hard surats of the innersphere complained that they had no chance and demanded Russ capitulate to them and weaken the clan tech all around.

[Revis Volek]

Rejarial Galatan, on 22 March 2016 - 05:46 PM, said:

this is something that has pissed me off for ages, and its honestly RUSS BULLOCKS fault. No seriously, its HIS fault. See, the thing is, in terms of raw power, clan tech IS superior to inner sphere, and this HAS been the case since mechwarrior was only battletech table top games. Its how the clans were able to steam roll the innersphere all the way to tukayyid and were only then stopped by the innersphere thanks to the clans being honorable and the innersphere being, well a bunch of cheating tools.

the ONLY reason I can see for this travesty is that the whiners and die hard surats of the innersphere complained that they had no chance and demanded Russ capitulate to them and weaken the clan tech all around.

Russ is not our BALANCE OVERLORD....

So as butt hurt as you are, its being pointed in the wrong direction. Kinda, he is the Guy in Charge.

[KahnWongFuChung]

Russ is not our BALANCE OVERLORD....

So as butt hurt as you are, its being pointed in the wrong direction. Kinda, he is the Guy in Charge.
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I have to agree with this even if they screwed up my timberwolf from what I understand MWO was put in the hands of PGI lower staff to run the game and semi develop it as a learning tool and Russ and most of PGI have moved on to a new game.

Or the revamp of (TRANNYVERSE) the space game.

[Adamski]

Rejarial Galatan, on 22 March 2016 - 05:46 PM, said:

this is something that has pissed me off for ages, and its honestly RUSS BULLOCKS fault. No seriously, its HIS fault. See, the thing is, in terms of raw power, clan tech IS superior to inner sphere, and this HAS been the case since mechwarrior was only battletech table top games. Its how the clans were able to steam roll the innersphere all the way to tukayyid and were only then stopped by the innersphere thanks to the clans being honorable and the innersphere being, well a bunch of cheating tools.

the ONLY reason I can see for this travesty is that the whiners and die hard surats of the innersphere complained that they had no chance and demanded Russ capitulate to them and weaken the clan tech all around.

The Clans knew how to win Battles, but not Wars, and Tukkayid was a WAR.

ComStar told the Clans exactly how many forces they were bringing, and they both agreed on the objectives.

The Clans decided to bring less than they were able, and lost the war for themselves, except for the Wolves and Bears who were smart enough to never underestimate an enemy.

In actual MWO news, many Clanners hate that the IS get quirks, but many of those same Clanners whine that their underperformers don't have enough quirks.

I personally, wont be happy until every mech is as valuable as any other mech of identical tonnage. Let them be differentiated through movement, structure, or weapon quirks.

[Wolfways]

Adamski, on 22 March 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

I personally, wont be happy until every mech is as valuable as any other mech of identical tonnage. Let them be differentiated through movement, structure, or weapon quirks.

Will never happen because....opinions.
Mechs are not even remotely balanced right now for me.

[Metus regem]

Rejarial Galatan, on 22 March 2016 - 05:46 PM, said:

Its how the clans were able to steam roll the innersphere all the way to tukayyid and were only then stopped by the innersphere thanks to the clans being honorable and the innersphere being, well a bunch of cheating tools.

Spoken like someone whom has never seen war... Fighting 'honourably' is fighting to lose... You know that old saying "all is fair in love and war."

The Clan understood a battle, not even a battle, they understood a foolish tradition, not honest warfare, it was something they stopped training in when they went to become the Clans, and that is why they lost Tukayyad as well as operation Bulldog. Task force Serpent was unconventional warfare, another animal that the Clans were unprepared for.

[Lucian Nostra]

Pariah Devalis, on 22 March 2016 - 02:32 PM, said:

Yes, but you IS guys have Johnny Z.

Damnit was far to late to this thread. was gonna be all



We may have Gyrok telling us all about how IS mechs trump Clan mechs but Johnny will tell you that after the match a Timber Wolf materialized in his living room and was beating the snot from his grandmother

Edited by Lucian Nostra, 22 March 2016 - 07:44 PM.

[MischiefSC]

I love the "I'm supposed to have the game skewed in my advantage - that's the only reason I would play" crowd.

It's a FPS and needs balanced as such. The original balance was **** on tabletop - the developers apologized for it and literally nuked the game world back to a reset, then created dark ages with 1 to 1 balance.

So trying to argue that the Clans are supposed to be OP isn't just a bad argument it's something the original developers said was **** and nuked their own game universe to get rid of.

Clans and IS are more balanced than they've ever been - which is a big part of the problem as the people who played Clans quit, cried and ran away when the deck wasn't stacked in their favor. IS has kept playing through the 2 years of Clans being stupid OP.

If someone wants to leave because the game is better balanced than it's ever been then good. GTFO. Those players were a stain on the genre from tabletop days. Nothing of value would be lost.

Under performing Clan mechs and IS mechs need love and Clans first as they have fewer mechs. All for that. Balanced 1 for 1 though.

Edited by MischiefSC, 22 March 2016 - 08:02 PM.

[Ace Selin]

SplashDown, on 22 March 2016 - 04:12 PM, said:

Weapon balance is pretty good these days...weapons for the 2 sides not suposed to be identicle...and you must be a die hard IS player becuz you clearly dunno anyhting about clan mechs as they are in the game now.
Some clan mechs are ok and in line with everything else..BUT 75-80% of clan mechs are so under powerd now its pointless to use them.

LOL this is funny. Do you even play Clan mechs?
Clans still have some of the best mechs in the game in all weight classes. Yes a few Clan mechs need help but not many.


Whilst i agree overall balance seems pretty good at present (yes some IS & some Clan mechs need help), i still primarily play clan mechs in solo Q (DireWolf, Timberwolf, Hunchback IIC and Jenner IIC) due to their survivability , speed (except Dire), damage output and generally forgiving nature if you make a mistake.

Edited by Ace Selin, 22 March 2016 - 08:16 PM.

[Scout Derek]

This is just a warning to all those (a friendly one) to those arguing here on the forums.





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You mind? I came here on here pretty late and would not like to deal with a few extra reports this coming morning alongside my morning and coffee in 9 hours please.

Thanks!

Edited by Scout Derek, 22 March 2016 - 08:59 PM.

[Sigilum Sanctum]

I don't recall my Executioner ever being nerfed. I just got out of a game where I did 900 damage with 4-5 kills. Felt alright to me.

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Avalon91211, on 22 March 2016 - 12:15 PM, said:

Instead it takes 8 Clan mechs firing to bring down an IS Assault mech and sometimes even IS Heavy mechs.

Jesus christ, what mechs are you fighting and where can I buy them?

Edited by Sigilum Sanctum, 22 March 2016 - 09:05 PM.