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#1 Darian DelFord

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:25 PM

OK, so taking a ride in my Jenner harassing the back lines. Hide behind a building then in a corner and I keep taking fire and I can not for the life of me see where the hell I am being shot at or by whom. The one who killed me was in a Cicada. But could not see him anywhere. Looked at the vid for a good 20 minutes trying to see a flash of any weapons fire. Tell me what you think

Weirdness starts at 15 seconds.



#2 Troutmonkey

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:27 PM

That is very odd. It's either a graphical bug or someone found a way to fall through the map. I'd send that in for sure.

Actually looking again it seems the enemy might be in G12 somewhere. Possibly a Cicada 3M with ERLL and ECM poking. When you have your back against the wall you take front hits.

4 seconds in, hits on your right from main group
6 seconds in, hits on your right coming from G12 / H12
11, from G12 again
13, some from main group on your right
21 seems the strangest as you're looking in the right direction. It's hard to tell with the quality of youtube

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Edited by Troutmonkey, 22 March 2016 - 04:39 PM.


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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:29 PM

I agree send that in.

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:31 PM

Yep send it in.

#5 Revis Volek

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:32 PM

You need to send that ASAP

Thats a bunch of bologna right there...

#6 AlphaToaster

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:37 PM

I think he was peeking from cover in H12.

When you are taking fire and running behind the building, some cerll strafe you, prolly from the hunchie, and as the building is to your right, you're taking fire from the left and rear as you round the building.

You double back the other way and then take fire from your right. You put up the map screen as you're being hit again but it's from your right. Notice your Front Right Torso is cored when you are done looking at the map. That puts the H12/I12 area as possible locations. When you face the building at the end thinking he's up on top, you get shot out in the rear CT.

I think he was the one place you didn't look. To your 90 degree left when you're going around the building at first, then 90 degree to your right (same zone you never checked) as you came back around.

Edited by AlphaToaster, 22 March 2016 - 04:41 PM.


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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:47 PM

View PostAlphaToaster, on 22 March 2016 - 04:37 PM, said:

I think he was peeking from cover in H12.

When you are taking fire and running behind the building, some cerll strafe you, prolly from the hunchie, and as the building is to your right, you're taking fire from the left and rear as you round the building.

You double back the other way and then take fire from your right. You put up the map screen as you're being hit again but it's from your right. Notice your Front Right Torso is cored when you are done looking at the map. That puts the H12/I12 area as possible locations. When you face the building at the end thinking he's up on top, you get shot out in the rear CT.

I think he was the one place you didn't look. To your 90 degree left when you're going around the building at first, then 90 degree to your right (same zone you never checked) as you came back around.




But how do we explain the YELLOW lasers hitting him?

I saw NO blue lasers, only Er meds graze him. But i will watch it again....

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:26 PM

Lag, rubberbanding, packet loss, and that's all I can come up with. More dumb than Venom having a weakness to a lighter. Send it.

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:29 PM

Thats the power of snow camo and ECM, kids!

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:30 PM

I say send it in because that could be an enemy or it could be something else. Better to send it in and have the 'professionals' take a look.

Professionals LOL.

#11 Alardus

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:33 PM

Its pretty clearly mystery damage from having a long ping spike.

#12 SplashDown

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:34 PM

if you wantch closly you can see some of the lasers go by and watch the hit locations on ur papper doll....deff looked like wall hax to me.

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:40 PM

View PostTroutmonkey, on 22 March 2016 - 04:27 PM, said:

That is very odd. It's either a graphical bug or someone found a way to fall through the map. I'd send that in for sure.

Actually looking again it seems the enemy might be in G12 somewhere. Possibly a Cicada 3M with ERLL and ECM poking. When you have your back against the wall you take front hits.

4 seconds in, hits on your right from main group
6 seconds in, hits on your right coming from G12 / H12
11, from G12 again
13, some from main group on your right
21 seems the strangest as you're looking in the right direction. It's hard to tell with the quality of youtube

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look a the 0:16 second mark...there is clearly a cicada in H13

that doesn't explain the lack of laser fire rendering though


Edit: oops....meant to quote the OP

View PostDarian DelFord, on 22 March 2016 - 04:25 PM, said:

OK, so taking a ride in my Jenner harassing the back lines. Hide behind a building then in a corner and I keep taking fire and I can not for the life of me see where the hell I am being shot at or by whom. The one who killed me was in a Cicada. But could not see him anywhere. Looked at the vid for a good 20 minutes trying to see a flash of any weapons fire. Tell me what you think

Weirdness starts at 15 seconds.



Edited by Bushmaster0, 22 March 2016 - 05:39 PM.


#14 Macster16

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:42 PM

I think there might be something bugged about Polar.

I was playing 1v1 on Polar with a friend a couple of days ago and we were both riding QKD-5Ks with ERLLs and I was the first to spot him. I began shooting him and he couldn't see the fire at all. I was literally standing there shooting him for a good 30 odd secs and he was looking around but couldn't see any laser fire at all. Both of us had steady pings and no lag issues.

This looks like something similar.

#15 LordMelvin

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:55 PM

My guess would be shots from above? The angle on those ERML is too steep to be anywhere level with you. A pair of mechs up there could explain the weirdness in damage, or maybe you had 1hp left on the torso and a max range laser scratched you? The new laser effect makes it harder to see them past optimal range.

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 06:27 PM

The lack of laser would be the new effects. Previously, they were just trailing off as they hit the target (even within optimal range), but they fixed it past optimal.


Thus, as he was getting shot at ~a KM, the lasers were barely visible (if not at all). Sure, little damage, but enough for a red cored CT.


The Cicada is clearly visible when you freeze frame at the 15s mark.

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 06:47 PM

View PostDarian DelFord, on 22 March 2016 - 04:25 PM, said:

OK, so taking a ride in my Jenner harassing the back lines. Hide behind a building then in a corner and I keep taking fire and I can not for the life of me see where the hell I am being shot at or by whom. The one who killed me was in a Cicada. But could not see him anywhere. Looked at the vid for a good 20 minutes trying to see a flash of any weapons fire. Tell me what you think

Weirdness starts at 15 seconds.




Found it! The thing my image is pointing to, even has the hump in the middle with 2 little antennas. When you went to the other side he could still see you, but when you twisted to look you twisted just fast/far enough to not see him go back down. Not seeing the laser fire.. well, likely just due to the angle.. only ever shot when you weren't looking his way.

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#18 Troutmonkey

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 07:04 PM

View PostGamuray, on 22 March 2016 - 06:47 PM, said:


Found it! The thing my image is pointing to, even has the hump in the middle with 2 little antennas. When you went to the other side he could still see you, but when you twisted to look you twisted just fast/far enough to not see him go back down. Not seeing the laser fire.. well, likely just due to the angle.. only ever shot when you weren't looking his way.

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It's annoying because that's only there briefly before the OP rotates and placing one of the cockpit struts directly over it

Edited by Troutmonkey, 22 March 2016 - 07:08 PM.


#19 LT. HARDCASE

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 07:21 PM

View PostGamuray, on 22 March 2016 - 06:47 PM, said:


Found it! The thing my image is pointing to, even has the hump in the middle with 2 little antennas. When you went to the other side he could still see you, but when you twisted to look you twisted just fast/far enough to not see him go back down. Not seeing the laser fire.. well, likely just due to the angle.. only ever shot when you weren't looking his way.

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And he would've gotten away with it, if it wasn't for those damn mech detectives.

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 08:31 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 22 March 2016 - 06:27 PM, said:

The lack of laser would be the new effects. Previously, they were just trailing off as they hit the target (even within optimal range), but they fixed it past optimal.


Thus, as he was getting shot at ~a KM, the lasers were barely visible (if not at all). Sure, little damage, but enough for a red cored CT.

Good point, but you can usually still see the thick/bright end of the laser reaching out towards you pretty easily.





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