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#21 Manei Domini Krigg

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Posted 27 March 2016 - 04:23 AM

I think tomorrow i add some ideas for Nightstar.

#22 GonaDie

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Posted 27 March 2016 - 09:24 AM

A little update:
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Still trying to get the arms right.

#23 TheArisen

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Posted 27 March 2016 - 12:33 PM

View PostGonaDie, on 27 March 2016 - 09:24 AM, said:

A little update:
Spoiler


Still trying to get the arms right.


Nice. :D

#24 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 27 March 2016 - 02:39 PM

working along, not really happy with my results so far, especially the legs, all hindered by the fact the official illustration is crap, and the miniatures, worse.

Looking at the minis..It's a wonder that Btech actualyl made it to begin with.... *SMH*

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Posted 27 March 2016 - 07:29 PM

For me the Nightstar has two features that distinguish it from the Marauder. Firstly, it's more squat stance. Second is the arms, they should be much bulkier and going outward more or less horizontally, but we can forget the forward swept arm thing on the minis.

Basically, I like the direction Bishop's first piece was going.

#26 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 27 March 2016 - 08:36 PM

View PostTheArisen, on 27 March 2016 - 07:29 PM, said:

For me the Nightstar has two features that distinguish it from the Marauder. Firstly, it's more squat stance. Second is the arms, they should be much bulkier and going outward more or less horizontally, but we can forget the forward swept arm thing on the minis.

Basically, I like the direction Bishop's first piece was going.

Arms, IMO should be similar to MWO's Ebon Jag. In fact, IMO, the EBJ we got looks more like a mini Nightstar descendant than an actual EBJ (which should be squat as heck, too)

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Posted 27 March 2016 - 09:48 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 27 March 2016 - 08:36 PM, said:

Arms, IMO should be similar to MWO's Ebon Jag. In fact, IMO, the EBJ we got looks more like a mini Nightstar descendant than an actual EBJ (which should be squat as heck, too)


I was thinking the same thing. MWO's Ebon is pretty similar to what I think of when I think of a MWO Nightstar.

#28 Manei Domini Krigg

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Posted 27 March 2016 - 10:08 PM

Ok here they are - Nightstar mech:
1 - close to Marauder design
2 - redesign
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Edited by Krigg, 27 March 2016 - 11:27 PM.


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Posted 27 March 2016 - 10:15 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 27 March 2016 - 02:39 PM, said:

working along, not really happy with my results so far, especially the legs, all hindered by the fact the official illustration is crap, and the miniatures, worse.

Looking at the minis..It's a wonder that Btech actualyl made it to begin with.... *SMH*


I agree the art is whew rough. This is quite the abortion of a mech since there are very few art renditions of it so i have to free style it to what i think works out. Ive given it so far some aspects of the marauder and ebon jag since this seems closely semi related.

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Posted 27 March 2016 - 11:34 PM

View PostKrigg, on 27 March 2016 - 10:08 PM, said:

Ok here they are - Nightstar mech:
1 - close to Marauder design
2 - redesign
Posted Image


Very nice. I really like the first one a lot. It's in the vein of what I envision this mech looking like. I also love the "face" and the feet. I dare say, the feet are perfect. (No foot fetish haha)

Thanks!

Edited by TheArisen, 27 March 2016 - 11:42 PM.


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Posted 28 March 2016 - 01:02 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 27 March 2016 - 02:39 PM, said:

working along, not really happy with my results so far, especially the legs, all hindered by the fact the official illustration is crap, and the miniatures, worse.

Looking at the minis..It's a wonder that Btech actualyl made it to begin with.... *SMH*

There are worse.

Black Python.That mech is ugly beyond reason.

#32 GonaDie

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Posted 28 March 2016 - 08:57 AM

The legs gonna give me brain cancer.

2 hours of starring at the paper and I still can't come up with something original.

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Posted 28 March 2016 - 12:06 PM

View PostGonaDie, on 28 March 2016 - 08:57 AM, said:

The legs gonna give me brain cancer.

2 hours of starring at the paper and I still can't come up with something original.


As of this time im at this point also. Feel my eyes hurting figuring it out. top torso and arms are all set tho.

Edited by LastKhan, 28 March 2016 - 01:31 PM.


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Posted 28 March 2016 - 01:21 PM

View PostLastKhan, on 28 March 2016 - 12:06 PM, said:


As of this time im at this point also. Fell my eyes hurting figuring it out. top torso and arms are all set tho.

funny...same for me. Legs are just.... Sucktastic if you want to include any "canon" details.

#35 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 28 March 2016 - 02:34 PM

View PostTheArisen, on 27 March 2016 - 09:48 PM, said:

I was thinking the same thing. MWO's Ebon is pretty similar to what I think of when I think of a MWO Nightstar.

so here' a rough very based off the EBJ, lol
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Posted 28 March 2016 - 02:36 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 28 March 2016 - 02:34 PM, said:

so here' a rough very based off the EBJ, lol
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Looks a bit way too much like a Ebon Jag silhouette wise. I would say make the lower torso more up into the upper torso i dunno some characteristic to it then just a mimic ya know?

Edited by LastKhan, 28 March 2016 - 02:41 PM.


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Posted 28 March 2016 - 02:40 PM

View PostLastKhan, on 28 March 2016 - 02:36 PM, said:



Looks a bit way too much like a Ebon Jag silhouette wise.

that was actualyl the idea, since if you look at the few nightstar pics available, it seems pretty obviously the inspiration for Alex's Ebon Jag. And since I used the pose from the ebon Jag to frame it, not a huge shock, either. It's there for getting the rough bits sorted.

That said, it's also why it's a "rough" sketch. So that one can provide input to work from.

I actually feel like I would have more to work from if the Reseen Marauder was still the "official" to use as a base.

(Also, lots of mechs share a silhouette, just saying)

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 28 March 2016 - 02:42 PM.


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Posted 28 March 2016 - 02:47 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 28 March 2016 - 02:40 PM, said:

that was actualyl the idea, since if you look at the few nightstar pics available, it seems pretty obviously the inspiration for Alex's Ebon Jag. And since I used the pose from the ebon Jag to frame it, not a huge shock, either. It's there for getting the rough bits sorted.

That said, it's also why it's a "rough" sketch. So that one can provide input to work from.

I actually feel like I would have more to work from if the Reseen Marauder was still the "official" to use as a base.

(Also, lots of mechs share a silhouette, just saying)


Yeah thats true. Dont get me wrong it looks really good but i think like how the minis has it, its kinda squatty looking.

Heres what i got; different angle from what your doing which is a good thing. Excuse the crappy phone camera. also may have to edit the right gauss to make it longerish.

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Edited by LastKhan, 28 March 2016 - 02:48 PM.


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Posted 28 March 2016 - 02:51 PM

View PostLastKhan, on 28 March 2016 - 02:47 PM, said:


Yeah thats true. Dont get me wrong it looks really good but i think like how the minis has it, its kinda squatty looking.

Heres what i got; different angle from what your doing which is a good thing. Excuse the crappy phone camera. also may have to edit the right gauss to make it longerish.

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looks good, just remember the difference between squat and "still able to realistically walk".

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Posted 28 March 2016 - 03:01 PM

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phase 2

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 28 March 2016 - 03:57 PM.






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